Is anyone happy with their K8N Neo Platinum?

einsig

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Hey there. I've been running a very rock solid and stable ASUS K8V Deluxe system since Feb with a 3400+ Clawhammer (C0 revision), Corsair XMS 3200LL 2512, Enermax 470w Noisetaker and 9800 Pro 256, etc. It works very well, but is horrible at overclocks (VIA chipset). OC-ing was just WAY too tempting with the nForce3 250, so I ordered the new MSI board after reading all the great reviews on many sites (including this one). Then I started reading about some serious issues people were having. So is anyone actually really impressed with this board? Have you been able to OC very well?
 

jkresh

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it appears that their quality control is poor, some boards work wonderfully others like crap. I would wait for the k8n-e to be available since your board is working. MIne overclocks nicely (Have it 8 * 300 and 9 * 275 on my 3200+) but has other quite series issues, so it is going back next week.
 

einsig

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Ehhh. What kind of issues are you having? I don't mind RMA-ing once. I had to with my ASUS K8V. The board is already ordered, so I can't wait. What is the k8n-e supposed to do better?
 

Don66

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I'm not O/Cing mine, but it's very stable and quick.
I have to say I'm enjoying it.
 

jkresh

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well it doesnt fully suport dtrs (first they said it would, now they say no), having issues with usb, and agp (after installing one of the nvidia drivers, 3dmark will run any single benchmark well but it cant transition, just goes to desktop after the first 1 I run), and the hddled/powerled/and reset buton arent working. As for the issue with dtr, wont due proper voltage and 2 sticks of memory only work with slots 2,3 for 1 boot then they need a reseat (remove 1 boot, turn off, put back, try again), in 1,3 i am stuck with a mutliplier of 4 (computer locks if changed in bios or in clockgen) so overall i am not satisfied with the board.
 

Don66

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Originally posted by: jkresh
well it doesnt fully suport dtrs (first they said it would, now they say no), having issues with usb, and agp (after installing one of the nvidia drivers, 3dmark will run any single benchmark well but it cant transition, just goes to desktop after the first 1 I run), and the hddled/powerled/and reset buton arent working. As for the issue with dtr, wont due proper voltage and 2 sticks of memory only work with slots 2,3 for 1 boot then they need a reseat (remove 1 boot, turn off, put back, try again), in 1,3 i am stuck with a mutliplier of 4 (computer locks if changed in bios or in clockgen) so overall i am not satisfied with the board.


What happens if you run @ default speed?
Your sig says that you have a good O/C going on.
 

jkresh

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with 1 chip i can overclock wondrfully with 2 I am stuck with a multiplier of 4, so i cant run at default with 2 sticks.
 

EngenZerO

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I have had two K8N Neo (had to RMA one due to a broken platic retainer for the heatsink). Both were rock stable and fast @ default speeds. They can handle my agressive mem timings and work flawlessly with my AGP card. I have had no networking problems or ide/sata problems. I think they are very nice boards and am seriously happy with my purchase. I would definitly purchase another MSi board in the future.
 

Rent

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Mine has been working like a rock, I only had issues with the 1 & 2 SATA ports, switching to 3 & 4 saved me a lot of headache. I still can't overclock much, but at least now I can overclock some :)
 

einsig

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Thanks for all the honest and candid replies folks! A lot of these issues I keep hearing about sound awfully familiar to the problems people were having with the K8V Deluxe boards from ASUS. On that board two of the SATAs are picky, super fast RAM can be flaky, etc.

Jkresh, it sounds as if you just have a bad board...period. It is one thing to have RAM issues on a design known to be RAM sensitive and using PC3700 when only PC3200 is supported. But all your other problems, like AGP and simple power/LED/reset jumpers, point to a bad board. I know you are planning on sitching it all together, but I suggest trying again. I had a bad board with my first K8V Dlx. After an RMA, the second one has been nothing but killer.

I'm looking to OC a good bit and really push this Clawhammer (even with my crappy C0 revision). I think a lot of problems people are having with OCs are that they push too far too fast, partially due to the incredible reviews this mobo gets. They also don't seem to be addressing heat. I'm convinced with proper cooling, especially on the chipset which we know gets HOT, that this board will run very stable at very nice OCs. Hopefully my setup can become testament to that....fingers crossed!
 

imported_jediknight

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Hmm.. you guys are giving me second thoughts on getting this board.
If not overclocking (at best - for now - I'd just be using the auto overclock.. don't want to turn my expensive piece of silicon into a worthless piece of glass), how does this board perform?

Any other suggestions for a nForce3 250Gb (I like the feature set - IDE/SATA drives in a raid, firewall, gigabit ethernet..) mobo?

Edit: Planning to build this using a retail 3000+ A64, not DTR (I heard these cause major problems)
 

modedepe

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Mine has been completely stable. No complaints at all. I've had it mostly at stock speeds though. I'll be pushing it more once I get some better ram, which is currently holding me back.
 

dimasukr

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This board simply doesn't support mobile A64 properly - period.
For desktop CPUs it looks like hit and miss.
 

tr1kstanc3

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only problem i had was overclocking 240+ fsb while using SATA 1 + 2 in raid 0 did not work properly. once i switched out to SATA 3 + 4 it worked properly. currently running an a64 3000 @ 2.4ghz at default voltage. i would recommend this board.
 

einsig

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This board simply doesn't support mobile A64 properly - period.
For desktop CPUs it looks like hit and miss.

I completely agree with the first statement. I know MSI siad it would initially, but now they clearly say it will not. People shouldn't be surprised when it doesn't work with these CPUs.

As for the hit and miss on the desktop CPUs...I'm still out on that one. I know a lot of folks love this board and a lot of people have issues too. However, from the issues I've read it sounds more like improper setup or asking too much w/o the right cooling. Granted my K8N hasn't arrived yet (this week), but I have a hard time swallowing ALL the incredible reviews of this mobo from many, many respected sites only to hear a lot of complaints. Something doesn't fit. Either all these reviewers got some holy grail version or the typical users just aren't doing something right. Maybe I'm wrong and the QC just blows. It that's the case I'll just keep returning the thing until i get a good one. Fingers crossed!
 

jkresh

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take a look at the msi forums (forums.msi.com.tw) a fair number of people are having issues with the board, while others have no probelms whatsoever. It appears that it is a good board with bad qc issues, and i have decided to just wait for the asus as they tend to be better with that kind of thing.
 

einsig

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Yeah I've actually been on the MSI support forums for about a week reading up. Still nothing I didn't see with the ASUS K8V Dlx or expect already with the Newcastle core (which I'm glad I don't have). A lot of it seems fixable through BIOS and driver updates. MSI seems very intent on working hard to get everything fixed. Although it is taking them a while, I'm sure they just want to get it right. Whatever you end up with, I hope it works out for you. I also hope this board works for me! LOL.

Thanks for all your input.
 

Bar81

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Good luck but I wouldn't count on it. MSI's track record is *extremely* poor when it comes to quality and support. Based upon what I've read, the high end Epox board is the only nForce3-250 board to actually support all the features of the chipset *and* work properly.
 

einsig

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Originally posted by: Bar81
Good luck but I wouldn't count on it. MSI's track record is *extremely* poor when it comes to quality and support. Based upon what I've read, the high end Epox board is the only nForce3-250 board to actually support all the features of the chipset *and* work properly.

Ehhh, I've read issues with the Epox as well...even in reviews. I think all these new baords witht his chipset are bound to need some kinks ironed out. It just comes with the new technology.
 

Bar81

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It's all possible; just don't get waste your time with MSI if it acts strangely. Personally, I wouldn't touch any of the boards out right now with all the issues. Hopefully the Asus will finally deliver the quality 250 board people have been waiting for.
 

scoughlin1

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Just got my board and cpu on Friday. Been having some minor problems with temp misreadings, choppy/stuttering graphics in games such as CS and UT2k4, and I get an NTLDR error if the cdrom isn't set first on the boot order and doesn't have a bootable cd in it. Other than those things, solid board. Not one crash yet.
 

alent1234

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i'm thinking of buying this board in august and reading everything about it. I think the biggest problem is that A64's are picky on RAM and some people don't realize it. A lot of people seem to think that they can buy the super overclocked RAM of the week even if it's not on the HCL and when issues come up they complain.
 

Don66

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Originally posted by: alent1234
i'm thinking of buying this board in august and reading everything about it. I think the biggest problem is that A64's are picky on RAM and some people don't realize it. A lot of people seem to think that they can buy the super overclocked RAM of the week even if it's not on the HCL and when issues come up they complain.

I hear you there.
Makes me glad I bought my cheap kingmax ram:laugh:
 

EtOH

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I have had no problems with mine, runs like a champ. The main complaints I have heard are in regards to SATA ports 1-2 and temps.

For some reason SATA porst 3-4 are better with overclocking. The temps are false readings and only affect Newcastle based chips like mine. So far though it has been stable and quick.

Just so you know I bought the 512 Mushkins that are 77$ at newegg and it runs great with two of them. Just use DIMM slots 1 and 3, that is the recommended for memory in that size etc.

But no problems so far, haven't stressed 3d yet as I am waiting on a new vid board.
 

Illissius

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Which SATA ports use the chipset SATA, and which the additional chip (I'm assuming Silicon Image, as that's all they use these days)?