Is any historical part of Dan Brown's "The Da Vinci Code" true?

[Howard]

It all seems like fiction, because it flies in the face of accepted knowledge... Interesting book, though.

 

[FoolishMcNasty]

I know he does extensive research before he writes his books, yet the characters and settings are fictional...btw, he is a very smart guy (Phillips Exeter & Amherst)...writes good books too.

 

[alkemyst]

In regards to Da Vinci thinking Jesus was not the prophet yeah....

I mean heck, just the Last Supper painting alone shows Da Vinci in self portrait sitting with the traitors looking away from Jesus....an act that could have had him executed.

not to mention the disembodied hand and dagger on the left of the painting.

If Le Serpent Rouge is mentioned it is also a real puzzle.


I know a lot about these things.

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[GTaudiophile]

Great book. He makes you think it's all based on fact...part of his expert story telling!

If you haven't read his "Digital Fortress" then I suggest you do.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Howard
It all seems like fiction, because it flies in the face of accepted knowledge... Interesting book, though.

Actually, the vast majority of it is truth. Jesus and him being decendent of David and Solomon, Mary Magdalene being his wife, the Knights Templar that discovered 'something' under Mount Temple, the Knights protecting the Merovingian line, etc.

 

[GTaudiophile]

I'd love to see some links to other sources claiming that a lot of what he wrote is factual?

Who exactly claims that the Holy Grail is some secret only known by Mary? (It's been a few months since I read, but I think that's what he wrote.)

 

[sygyzy]

I am almost done with the book and while i haven't had the chance to look up any of the data, the way he tells it, makes you think it's so true.

Unlike other fictional books where you don't think for a second that it's anything but fiction, in The Da Vinci Code, EVERYTHING seems like it's true. He backs everything up. Sure lies backed up with lies, possibly, but in such a convincing manner!

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I'd love to see some links to other sources claiming that a lot of what he wrote is factual?

Who exactly claims that the Holy Grail is some secret only known by Mary? (It's been a few months since I read, but I think that's what he wrote.)

You should read it again. The Holy Grail is Mary Magdalene! (According to the book).

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I'd love to see some links to other sources claiming that a lot of what he wrote is factual?

Who exactly claims that the Holy Grail is some secret only known by Mary? (It's been a few months since I read, but I think that's what he wrote.)

You should read it again. The Holy Grail is Mary Magdalene! (According to the book).

Yes, I know he writes that, but moreover, I thought it was the "Gospel of Mary Magdalene" or something like that, words describing Jesus as a pretty normal guy who had relationships and all that.

Edit: As a practicing Christian, I have to admit, that although I found the book entertaining, I also found it to be quite blasphemous in many ways.

 

[MazerRackham]

GREAT BOOK!! Yeah I was wondering the same thing, about the "factualness" of it all.

It could be the subject of a GREAT documentary....

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Great book. He makes you think it's all based on fact...part of his expert story telling!

If you haven't read his "Digital Fortress" then I suggest you do.

I didn't like digital fortress. It was a decent story and all, with lots of cool stuff about encryption, but it read more like a scritpt to a bad Hollywood movie than a book.

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The ending was terrible. The whole down-to-the-wire crap with them fending off the hackers was just lame. Plus he made it waaaaaay too obvious that the final answer was 3.

 

[GTaudiophile]

This link could be of interest.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: MazerRackham
GREAT BOOK!! Yeah I was wondering the same thing, about the "factualness" of it all.

It could be the subject of a GREAT documentary....

There are documentaries out on this. BBC did a famous one not too long ago, although i can't remember the name (Holy Blood, Holy Grail?).

 

[Johnbear007]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I'd love to see some links to other sources claiming that a lot of what he wrote is factual?

Who exactly claims that the Holy Grail is some secret only known by Mary? (It's been a few months since I read, but I think that's what he wrote.)

You should read it again. The Holy Grail is Mary Magdalene! (According to the book).

Yes, I know he writes that, but moreover, I thought it was the "Gospel of Mary Magdalene" or something like that, words describing Jesus as a pretty normal guy who had relationships and all that.

Edit: As a practicing Christian, I have to admit, that although I found the book entertaining, I also found it to be quite blasphemous in many ways.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Johnbear007

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I'd love to see some links to other sources claiming that a lot of what he wrote is factual?

Who exactly claims that the Holy Grail is some secret only known by Mary? (It's been a few months since I read, but I think that's what he wrote.)

You should read it again. The Holy Grail is Mary Magdalene! (According to the book).

Yes, I know he writes that, but moreover, I thought it was the "Gospel of Mary Magdalene" or something like that, words describing Jesus as a pretty normal guy who had relationships and all that.

Edit: As a practicing Christian, I have to admit, that although I found the book entertaining, I also found it to be quite blasphemous in many ways.

I have to second that

As an athiest, i find that the Jesus/Mary Magdalene story MUCH more believable and inspiring than what the New Testament claims. Women aren't below men, women aren't the 'original sin', but infact equal to Jesus and man. If you really do look at The Last Supper, look at the person to Jesus right, and you will see it is indeed a female, garb in the EXACT same garment as Jesus, but with the colors reversed.

 

[Looney]

There are also movies on this. The Last Temptation, and the current one with Mel Gibson (sorry, forgot the name).

People should be rising up against what the Catholic church did to Jesus and his teachings, but instead like GTaudiophile, even though they're presented with it, they deny it without giving it a second look. The Old Testament spoke about this (Matthew and Gospel of Thomas i believe), and so did the Dead Sea Scrolls.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: Johnbear007

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I'd love to see some links to other sources claiming that a lot of what he wrote is factual?

Who exactly claims that the Holy Grail is some secret only known by Mary? (It's been a few months since I read, but I think that's what he wrote.)

You should read it again. The Holy Grail is Mary Magdalene! (According to the book).

Yes, I know he writes that, but moreover, I thought it was the "Gospel of Mary Magdalene" or something like that, words describing Jesus as a pretty normal guy who had relationships and all that.

Edit: As a practicing Christian, I have to admit, that although I found the book entertaining, I also found it to be quite blasphemous in many ways.

I have to second that

As an athiest, i find that the Jesus/Mary Magdalene story MUCH more believable and inspiring than what the New Testament claims. Women aren't below men, women aren't the 'original sin', but infact equal to Jesus and man. If you really do look at The Last Supper, look at the person to Jesus right, and you will see it is indeed a female, garb in the EXACT same garment as Jesus, but with the colors reversed.

Go re-read the NT! As far as I know, it doesn't blame women like that.

No one painted The Last Supper who was actually there! This is one artist's impression of what happened. And like all artists, he had a point to make.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: Johnbear007

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I'd love to see some links to other sources claiming that a lot of what he wrote is factual?

Who exactly claims that the Holy Grail is some secret only known by Mary? (It's been a few months since I read, but I think that's what he wrote.)

You should read it again. The Holy Grail is Mary Magdalene! (According to the book).

Yes, I know he writes that, but moreover, I thought it was the "Gospel of Mary Magdalene" or something like that, words describing Jesus as a pretty normal guy who had relationships and all that.

Edit: As a practicing Christian, I have to admit, that although I found the book entertaining, I also found it to be quite blasphemous in many ways.

I have to second that

As an athiest, i find that the Jesus/Mary Magdalene story MUCH more believable and inspiring than what the New Testament claims. Women aren't below men, women aren't the 'original sin', but infact equal to Jesus and man. If you really do look at The Last Supper, look at the person to Jesus right, and you will see it is indeed a female, garb in the EXACT same garment as Jesus, but with the colors reversed.

Go re-read the NT! As far as I know, it doesn't blame women like that.

Sure it does. It was Eve who ate the apple. It was Eve who was created from the rib of Adam.

Corinthians 11:3: "...Christ is the head of every man, and a husband the head of his wife, and the head of Christ is God.

Corinthians 11:7-9:"For a man...is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head."

Corinthians 14:34-35: "...women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says, If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."

Ephesians 5:22-24: "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife...wives should submit to their husbands in everything."

Timothy 2:11-15:"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent..."

How can you deny this? Even today in this civilization, we see that women can't hold the same status as men in the Catholic Church. It was only recently, that the marriage vows have been changed from 'man and wife' to 'husband and wife' (even though many still practice the old vows).

 

[alkemyst]

sweet baby jesus cries everytime you post.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Have you read the entire NT to take all those verses in context? Context is everything and no the Bible doesn't mean to say, "Man is superior, all women bow down."

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Have you read the entire NT to take all those verses in context? Context is everything and no the Bible doesn't mean to say, "Man is superior, all women bow down."

No, to be honest i haven't read the entire NT... infact, very few people have, including 'true' Christians. But i know enough of history, and how people have used the Bible over the ages to take advantage of men AND women. But to prove your point, why don't you take some of the quotes i made, and put them into the proper context if you believe they've been taken out of context.

 

[sygyzy]

Dan Brown addresses this very issue in the book. He asks if it even matters if the "truth" is revealed because that is what faith is all about. If you totally believed in Santa Claus and I supposedly gave you "facts" that he doesn't, why would you care? The fact is you have faith - belief in something that cannot be proven or you have not seen.

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: MazerRackham
GREAT BOOK!! Yeah I was wondering the same thing, about the "factualness" of it all.

It could be the subject of a GREAT documentary....

Kinda like ....Bowling for Columbine?

 

[alkemyst]

i think anyone who is devoutly religious should this read The Four Agreements (or a similar book....although this one is a one-two day read) and learn to think first....while I don't agree with everything the book says it does open ones eyes to brainwashing they may not even known they had.

Then go ahead learn the bible, learn several....learn what makes each different, know how each story relates to the others. Know what parts totally do not agree at all.

Then start reading about controversy and learn the history and politics these bibles went through. Learn about the Holy Grail and Mergovian's etc....find out for yourselves why things are brought up.

Find out how the Great Pyramid and the Temple of Solomon (home of the "ark of the convenant" at one time?) share alot of identical measurements and find out why (built by the same guy? then find out why he was killed)...

Even in the beginning people knew how much the tendrils of religious belief would entangle people and exploited it even at the start.