Is an Apple ever alive?

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: LordJezo
This thread is not about anything other then me wondering if an apple is ever alive. I am eating an apple right now and started staring at it.

Then I started to wonder if I had eaten the apple while it was still attached to the tree would I be eating a living creature. Then I wondered how long after it had been picked would it remain alive, and, what the cells in things like lettuice look like, since, at one time they were once living plant cells.

no, you're not eating a "creature" because the term as we know it, refers to animals. it was "alive" though, just like anything else that we eat (unless you eat rocks or something).

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Hubris
Well, that's the phallacy of veganism, isn't it? there's absolutely no way to eat something wasn't, at one time, alive. Unless you eat only elements and manmade chemicals. But vegetables, fruits, nuts, etc. are all, to one extent or another, living things.

well, much of the point to veganism is that the market for animals and their byproducts has resulted in the mistreatment of some animals. you can mistreat an apple, but it's not going to feel it like an animal would.

hopefully one day we will discover that they can feel.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
yes, er I don't think the tree has a soul though, so it depends on your definitions.

depends on your definition of soul too...

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: PatboyX

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Hubris
Well, that's the phallacy of veganism, isn't it? there's absolutely no way to eat something wasn't, at one time, alive. Unless you eat only elements and manmade chemicals. But vegetables, fruits, nuts, etc. are all, to one extent or another, living things.

well, much of the point to veganism is that the market for animals and their byproducts has resulted in the mistreatment of some animals. you can mistreat an apple, but it's not going to feel it like an animal would.

hopefully one day we will discover that they can feel.

that would be interesting to say the least. but i doubt it, since they have no nervous system (well, at least that we're aware of at least).

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
as alive as your hair or nails...basically the same thing..u can cut ur nails or hair and it wont hurt

Incorrect, the parts of your nails and hair that you cut are already dead.

 

[BigPoppa]

No nervous system, but they do respond to cuts/bruises, no?

 

[nativesunshine]

Originally posted by: PatboyX

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Hubris
Well, that's the phallacy of veganism, isn't it? there's absolutely no way to eat something wasn't, at one time, alive. Unless you eat only elements and manmade chemicals. But vegetables, fruits, nuts, etc. are all, to one extent or another, living things.

well, much of the point to veganism is that the market for animals and their byproducts has resulted in the mistreatment of some animals. you can mistreat an apple, but it's not going to feel it like an animal would.

hopefully one day we will discover that they can feel.

:Q

thanks for blocking me!!! you think i wouldn't find out?

meanie!!! :|

 

the fruit of the apple is made to eat, the seeds are spread via animal feces

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: aircooled
Yes the apple is alive as it is growing on the living tree. and since it can continue to ripen once picked I would say it is still alive after harvest for a while.

The ripening process is basically a gradual rotting.
So I'd say it's not alive as soon as it's picked.

But the real question is when does the seed become a tree?