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Is America hooked on illegal labor?
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dmcowen674
No Lifer
Topic Title: Is America hooked on illegal labor?
Title correction
Rich Religious Republican Corporate whores hooked on cheap illegal labor.
YES
Title correction
Rich Religious Republican Corporate whores hooked on cheap illegal labor.
YES
I think a main point of contention would be, how many of these people are not paying taxes but using public services. How much money is lost to this tax free sink, that the taxpayers have to pickup? The problem is not, I repeat IS NOT illegal workers, who merely want an opportunity to provide for their families, but the employeers trying to cut corners and line their own pockets for the sake of more profits. We should be hanging these people out to dry.
Another thread would have to address how we legally immigrate the people who want to work into jobs they are skilled or motivated to do.
Another thread would have to address how we legally immigrate the people who want to work into jobs they are skilled or motivated to do.
Lots of Big Business and Big Ag concerns are hooked on cheap illegal labor. But, like a heroin junkie they can be cured. Deportation of the illegal aliens would be the best solution since the junkies would be forced to come clean and there wouldn't be the ever present temptation of cheap illegal labor.
Starbuck1975
Lifer
He didn't, but he certainly directed his trollish criticisms directly at Republicans, in his typical partisan and hypocritical manner.
I live in fairly liberal neighborhood in what is a strong blue state...Kerry and anti-Bush bumper stickers a plenty...my neighbors and fellow citizens don't seem to have a problem hiring illegals to keep their yards looking nice and pretty, or to do the other "chores" they deem below them...like washing their Jags, Porches, Mercedes, H2s and BMWs.
As for the OP, my only criticism is that America has always depended on migrant workers and illegals...we are a nation built on the backs of migrant workers and illegals...the only thing that has changed is the geographic origins of the migrant population.
CaptnKirk
Lifer
Welcome to the United States, now leave . .
The 35.2 million immigrants (legal and illegal) living in the country in March 2005 is the highest number ever recorded -- two and a half times the 13.5 million during the peak of the last great immigration wave in 1910.
Between January 2000 and March 2005, 7.9 million new immigrants (legal and illegal) settled in the country, making it the highest five-year period of immigration in American history.
Nearly half of post-2000 arrivals (3.7 million) are estimated to be illegal aliens.
Immigrants account for 12.1 percent of the total population, the highest percentage in eight decades. If current trends continue, within a decade it will surpass the high of 14.7 percent reached in 1910.
Of adult immigrants, 31 percent have not completed high school, three-and-a-half times the rate for natives. Since 1990, immigration has increased the number of such workers by 25 percent, while increasing the supply of all other workers by 6 percent.
Immigrants were once significantly more likely to have a college degree, but the new data show that natives are now as likely as immigrants to have a bachelor's or graduate degree.
The proportion of immigrant-headed households using at least one major welfare program is 29 percent, compared to 18 percent for native households.
The poverty rate for immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) is 18.4 percent, 57 percent higher than the 11.7 percent for natives and their children. Immigrants and their minor children account for almost one in four persons living in poverty.
One-third of immigrants lack health insurance -- two-and-one-half times the rate for natives. Immigrants and their U.S.-born children account for almost three-fourths (nine million) of the increase in the uninsured population since 1989.
The low educational attainment of many immigrants and resulting low wages are the primary reasons so many live in poverty, use welfare programs, or lack health insurance, not their legal status or an unwillingness to work.
A central question for immigration policy is: Should we allow in so many people with little education, which increases job competition for the poorest American workers and the size of the population needing government assistance?
Immigrants make significant economic progress the longer they live in the United States, but even immigrants who have lived in the United States for 14 or 15 years still have dramatically higher rates of poverty, lack of health insurance, and welfare use than natives.
States with the largest increase in immigrants are California, Texas Georgia, New Jersey, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Washington, Virginia, Arizona, Tennessee, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, South Carolina, and Mississippi.
Immigration accounts for virtually all of the national increase in public school enrollment over the last two decades. In 2005, there were 10.3 million school-age children from immigrant families in the United States.
Immigrants and natives exhibit remarkably similar rates of entrepreneurship, with 13 percent of natives and 11 percent of immigrants self-employed.
Recent immigration has had no significant impact on the nation's age structure. Without the 7.9 million post-2000 immigrants, the average age in America would be virtually unchanged at 36 years.
The 35.2 million immigrants (legal and illegal) living in the country in March 2005 is the highest number ever recorded -- two and a half times the 13.5 million during the peak of the last great immigration wave in 1910.
Between January 2000 and March 2005, 7.9 million new immigrants (legal and illegal) settled in the country, making it the highest five-year period of immigration in American history.
Nearly half of post-2000 arrivals (3.7 million) are estimated to be illegal aliens.
Immigrants account for 12.1 percent of the total population, the highest percentage in eight decades. If current trends continue, within a decade it will surpass the high of 14.7 percent reached in 1910.
Of adult immigrants, 31 percent have not completed high school, three-and-a-half times the rate for natives. Since 1990, immigration has increased the number of such workers by 25 percent, while increasing the supply of all other workers by 6 percent.
Immigrants were once significantly more likely to have a college degree, but the new data show that natives are now as likely as immigrants to have a bachelor's or graduate degree.
The proportion of immigrant-headed households using at least one major welfare program is 29 percent, compared to 18 percent for native households.
The poverty rate for immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) is 18.4 percent, 57 percent higher than the 11.7 percent for natives and their children. Immigrants and their minor children account for almost one in four persons living in poverty.
One-third of immigrants lack health insurance -- two-and-one-half times the rate for natives. Immigrants and their U.S.-born children account for almost three-fourths (nine million) of the increase in the uninsured population since 1989.
The low educational attainment of many immigrants and resulting low wages are the primary reasons so many live in poverty, use welfare programs, or lack health insurance, not their legal status or an unwillingness to work.
A central question for immigration policy is: Should we allow in so many people with little education, which increases job competition for the poorest American workers and the size of the population needing government assistance?
Immigrants make significant economic progress the longer they live in the United States, but even immigrants who have lived in the United States for 14 or 15 years still have dramatically higher rates of poverty, lack of health insurance, and welfare use than natives.
States with the largest increase in immigrants are California, Texas Georgia, New Jersey, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Washington, Virginia, Arizona, Tennessee, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, South Carolina, and Mississippi.
Immigration accounts for virtually all of the national increase in public school enrollment over the last two decades. In 2005, there were 10.3 million school-age children from immigrant families in the United States.
Immigrants and natives exhibit remarkably similar rates of entrepreneurship, with 13 percent of natives and 11 percent of immigrants self-employed.
Recent immigration has had no significant impact on the nation's age structure. Without the 7.9 million post-2000 immigrants, the average age in America would be virtually unchanged at 36 years.
Starbuck1975
Lifer
A more relevant question is that are the poorest American workers willing to do the jobs typically taken by immigrant workers.
dmcowen674
No Lifer
Damn straight I didn't.
Republicans have brought this to new heights.
It's like legal slavery all over again.
tommywishbone
Platinum Member
The answer to the OP is absolutely positively... YES. Spend one day visiting So Cal job sites and the answer will be obvious. The situation is totally out of control.
Starbuck1975
Lifer
It was no different for the waves of poor southern European immigrants that came to America in the early 1900s...I imagine it has been the same for every wave of immigrants that have come to this country.
You can blame Republicans today if you like, but whose fault was it when Italian, Irish, Greek, and Puerto Rican immigrants, among others, were exploited when they came to this country...this has been a dynamic of American culture for some time.
Yet every liberal that hires a immigrant worker, or spends money at a place of business that hires immigrant workers, is contributing to the dynamic at well...this is a social issue that transcends political affiliation.
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