Is AMD to go for good value quadcores? Also, some build questions.

[ShawnD1]

Thousands of people spent $500 and more to get 5-10FPS when Crysis came out. Are they all stupid and should be neutered? How about every enthusiast that grabs a Tri-SLI or QuadFire set-up and puts it under water because he or she can?

And you claim I make straw man arguments? You're trying to put your 5 fps increasing i7 on the same playing field as doubling the frame rate with SLI or Crossfire.

 

[MrK6]

Such behaviors? Oh jeez.. how big of a mountain is this mole hill of yours?

People come and go on forums all the time. You should be a big boy and recognize that there are plenty of ways to be an enthusiast without spending a lot of money for relatively little gain, and there's room for more than just your opinion. If someone goes onto a message board and describes a purchase they made, clearly they want attention of some kind. There's never a guarantee that the attention they receive will be congratulatory.

If anything ShawnD1 said was a "get stomped on by the average Joe" moment then you and anyone else who was even remotely offended needs a real problem to be concerned about.

Because this is a computing enthusiast forum and people come on here to talk about computers (quite the revelation, I realize). It has nothing to do with being offended, it has to do with telling someone else to stop being an idiot. Sounds like you're in the same "I don't have money so I'm going to sulk like an immature brat" boat as well - why stop making excuses? Don't say crap and expect not to be called on it. If you want to cut the balls off of people that have more elaborate spending habits then yourself, get in line to be called an idiot as well.

And you claim I make straw man arguments? You're trying to put your 5 fps increasing i7 on the same playing field as doubling the frame rate with SLI or Crossfire.

Where did I say any of that? Honestly, you need to learn to read what is written and not what you want to perceive. I'm sorry you're all in a huff about being called out, just suck it up, move on, and stop wasting my time. The discussion is over, start a new thread and PM me the link if you want to keep crying about it.

 

[zsdersw]

Because this is a computing enthusiast forum and people come on here to talk about computers (quite the revelation, I realize). It has nothing to do with being offended, it has to do with telling someone else to stop being an idiot. Sounds like you're in the same "I don't have money so I'm going to sulk like an immature brat" boat as well - why stop making excuses? Don't say crap and expect not to be called on it. If you want to cut the balls off of people that have more elaborate spending habits then yourself, get in line to be called an idiot as well.

Yes, it is an enthusiast forum.. and not all enthusiasts spend enormous amounts of money for very little gain.

Your rant about ShawnD1's original comment is crap. His comment read like smartass hyperbole, not the grand insult you think it is.

 

[evident]

keep your e8400.

 

[EnzoLT]

A quad will encode faster but being able to multitask has almost nothing to do with the number of cores. A dual core system with encoding set to low priority will run much faster than a quad core trying to run games and encoding at the same priority.

lolwut???

you either encode or game, not both.

get a quad core. i have a q9550 up from a e6320 and it did wonders in terms of video encoding.

 

[ShawnD1]

lolwut???

you either encode or game, not both.

get a quad core. i have a q9550 up from a e6320 and it did wonders in terms of video encoding.

Did you even look at the screenshot I posted? I'm running Prime95 and OCCT while playing World of Warcraft at 60fps. Background tasks clearly have no effect at all.

here's the screenshot again so you don't need to go looking for it
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8254/prime95wow.jpg

 

[jvroig]

Did you even look at the screenshot I posted? I'm running Prime95 and OCCT while playing World of Warcraft at 60fps. Background tasks clearly have no effect at all.

I'm curious. How slow did the encoding become? You can't get something for nothing, and setting the encoding task to low priority means it will finish probably a lot slower than it normally would. And the OP stated that he wished "to speed up my video encodes and also play games at the same time".

So while perhaps you are right that setting a background task low priority will not affect your game since it is on normal priority, it won't quite answer the OP's need since he wants to speed up his encoding, not slow it down just to be able to play a game. So getting a dual core and setting the background task of encoding to "low priority" doesn't seem like a solution that fits the OP's needs. Perhaps it would fit your needs and the needs of countless others who are not interested in increasing their encoding efficiency while gaming.

 

[EnzoLT]

nah, im just saying. i would personally just let it encode 100% than multitask. im not doubting that you can run prime and ooct while playing wow. ive done something similar in the past lmao.

I'm curious. How slow did the encoding become? You can't get something for nothing, and setting the encoding task to low priority means it will finish probably a lot slower than it normally would. And the OP stated that he wished "to speed up my video encodes and also play games at the same time".

So while perhaps you are right that setting a background task low priority will not affect your game since it is on normal priority, it won't quite answer the OP's need since he wants to speed up his encoding, not slow it down just to be able to play a game. So getting a dual core and setting the background task of encoding to "low priority" doesn't seem like a solution that fits the OP's needs. Perhaps it would fit your needs and the needs of countless others who are not interested in increasing their encoding efficiency while gaming.

thus why i said you either encode or you game.

 

[Ben90]

lol, running prime and wow in the middle of no where at the same time attempting to prove that quad cores are useless. Im pretty sure the 3d pinball that comes with windows is more CPU intensive than that scene.

Anyways I'm with MrK6, saying that someone is retarded just because they have more money than you doesn't wont stand up in an argument. When I was building a computer for my mom, she wanted an i7-975. I told her that she would be better off getting a 920 and having me overclock it, but she was set on having a "hassle free" computer experience, and decided to waste $700s in my eyes. It was worth it to her, and she was the one buying it so that's what counts.

 

[EnzoLT]

lol, running prime and wow in the middle of no where at the same time attempting to prove that quad cores are useless. Im pretty sure the 3d pinball that comes with windows is more CPU intensive than that scene.

Anyways I'm with MrK6, saying that someone is retarded just because they have more money than you doesn't wont stand up in an argument. When I was building a computer for my mom, she wanted an i7-975. I told her that she would be better off getting a 920 and having me overclock it, but she was set on having a "hassle free" computer experience, and decided to waste $700s in my eyes. It was worth it to her, and she was the one buying it so that's what counts.

would she have known the difference? i dont think she runs cpuid on it now did she? not unless she was with u when u bought it, but yeah, $700....sheeshhh

 

[ShawnD1]

Anyways I'm with MrK6, saying that someone is retarded just because they have more money than you doesn't wont stand up in an argument. When I was building a computer for my mom, she wanted an i7-975. I told her that she would be better off getting a 920 and having me overclock it, but she was set on having a "hassle free" computer experience, and decided to waste $700s in my eyes. It was worth it to her, and she was the one buying it so that's what counts.

You're just angry because I said your mom should have been sterilized

edit:
Actually I didn't really say that. I said people who pay $500 to increase their fps by 5 should be sterilized. Your mom doesn't really fit into that category. She isn't fully aware that the two are about the same speed.
Also, she's right. Do not overclock someone else's computer. If it screws up, they won't have a clue what's wrong with it. Clocking things higher makes them less reliable; server processors are intentionally underclocked compared to their desktop counterparts just to ensure absolute dependability.

 

[Ben90]

server processors are intentionally underclocked compared to their desktop counterparts just to ensure absolute dependability.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117220

 

[evolucion8]

I'm curious. How slow did the encoding become? You can't get something for nothing, and setting the encoding task to low priority means it will finish probably a lot slower than it normally would.[/I][/B].

It might be a possibility, Core 2 front ends usually are well underutilized, so in some scenarios probably there will be no slowdowns when you are encoding and doing some other stuff. I was able to play GRID and run Linpack and never got a single slowdown. That's why Intel added Hyper Threading to Nehalem, so it resources can be utilized better, after all Nehalem isn't any wider in terms of execution resources compared to Core 2, is just more efficient.