Wow, what a bunch of nonsense. Would you say the same thing about fast food or coffee? Because they're just as hard to "quit." I'm not including alcoholics when I make that statement.
Alcoholism on native american indian reservations and trailer parks is such a massive problem. It was taught in the school curriculum a few years ago.
Not for me.
Besides, doesn't your body naturally produce something found in nicotine and when you add the nicotine of smokes your body shuts down that chemical since it no longer needs to make it? I thought that's why it was so hard to quit. That and the fact that the buzz you get from chewing after not having any nicotine in your system for a while is superb.
Besides, doesn't your body naturally produce something found in nicotine and when you add the nicotine of smokes your body shuts down that chemical since it no longer needs to make it? I thought that's why it was so hard to quit. That and the fact that the buzz you get from chewing after not having any nicotine in your system for a while is superb.
Research has been done into addiction and genes. They can sortof tell you if you should get addicted to cigarettes these days, but it's ongoing. I think alcohol isnt chemically adictive, only mentally. Can someone clear that up?
1st thing that jumps to mind is why does one drink? Is it a crutch, make it easier to relax in potentially stressful situations [chatting up women], or blocking out stressful thoughts [depression]? Or is it just a learned habit. Alcohol=relaxed, therefore you tell yourself you "need" a drink to relax.
My father is an alcoholic, so I've always avoided alcohol as a rule. Ocassionally I drink at parties, but never with friends and never on my own. Apart from the fact it can take control of your life, it's not necessary, not good for you and a waste of money.
We have some strange alcohol laws over here.
Whatever, have fun
1st thing that jumps to mind is why does one drink? Is it a crutch, make it easier to relax in potentially stressful situations [chatting up women], or blocking out stressful thoughts [depression]? Or is it just a learned habit. Alcohol=relaxed, therefore you tell yourself you "need" a drink to relax.
My father is an alcoholic, so I've always avoided alcohol as a rule. Ocassionally I drink at parties, but never with friends and never on my own. Apart from the fact it can take control of your life, it's not necessary, not good for you and a waste of money.
We have some strange alcohol laws over here.
Whatever, have fun
FallenHero
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Overall, Nicotine is harder to quit. However, watching a full blown alcoholic go through alcohol withdrawal is very very frightening.
Kyle
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Originally posted by: QUOTH
Research has been done into addiction and genes. They can sortof tell you if you should get addicted to cigarettes these days, but it's ongoing. I think alcohol isnt chemically adictive, only mentally. Can someone clear that up?
1st thing that jumps to mind is why does one drink? Is it a crutch, make it easier to relax in potentially stressful situations [chatting up women], or blocking out stressful thoughts [depression]? Or is it just a learned habit. Alcohol=relaxed, therefore you tell yourself you "need" a drink to relax.
My father is an alcoholic, so I've always avoided alcohol as a rule. Ocassionally I drink at parties, but never with friends and never on my own. Apart from the fact it can take control of your life, it's not necessary, not good for you and a waste of money.
We have some strange alcohol laws over here.
Whatever, have fun
Alcohol can be chemically addictive- so much so in fact that the withdrawls can kill you if you're a heavy drinker and just quit.
[Damn, mispelled addiction] Can? I thought it was a yes or no thing. Do you only become chemically addicted if your a very heavy drinker, or does it depend on the biology person in question?
Thanks.
Thinking about it if alcoholism is [partially] genetic then a trick of evolution will increase the number of people born who are alcoholic. Say two people go out to a bar. One of them has a couple of drinks, the other gets verry drunk. And now lets say both of these people have a one night stand. It's possible that the alcoholic is more likely to have a one night stand, and less likely to use protection. Therefore 1 more alcoholic is born into the world. I know this is pretty much nonsense, and is probably true less than 1% of the time.
No offence ment to anyone, just a random idea floating throught my head.
Thanks.
Thinking about it if alcoholism is [partially] genetic then a trick of evolution will increase the number of people born who are alcoholic. Say two people go out to a bar. One of them has a couple of drinks, the other gets verry drunk. And now lets say both of these people have a one night stand. It's possible that the alcoholic is more likely to have a one night stand, and less likely to use protection. Therefore 1 more alcoholic is born into the world
. I know this is pretty much nonsense, and is probably true less than 1% of the time.No offence ment to anyone, just a random idea floating throught my head.
nicotine is much harder to quit. Alcohol isn't very difficult to quit. What kind of alcohol do you drink, and why do you drink it?
A bit redundant? I'm pretty sure puritan is good enough, they are defined to be protestants
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I think it could go either way depending on the person.
I drink often... pretty much need at least a few beers every single night (not to get drunk, I just like it I guess), so I guess I'm addicted to that. I smoke up to a half-pack a day, so I'm addicted to them too. I've not tried to quit either of them, so I don't know what would be harder. I'd imagine it's harder to give up smoking when you drink. I'd quit drinking then quit smoking.
So for myself, I'd say alcohol would be LESS DIFFICULT to give up than nicotine, definitely. I could go without my standard 3-4 beers tonight no problem, but it'd be tough to not smoke anymore cigs today (only had one thus far). But I don't see myself completely stop drinking alcohol. I'd just need to make it 1-2 times per week, not 7x per week, to say I gave up my "drinking problem". If I quit smoking, I'd quit for good. Quitting opiates is much harder than both of those though, IMO.
I drink often... pretty much need at least a few beers every single night (not to get drunk, I just like it I guess), so I guess I'm addicted to that. I smoke up to a half-pack a day, so I'm addicted to them too. I've not tried to quit either of them, so I don't know what would be harder. I'd imagine it's harder to give up smoking when you drink. I'd quit drinking then quit smoking.
So for myself, I'd say alcohol would be LESS DIFFICULT to give up than nicotine, definitely. I could go without my standard 3-4 beers tonight no problem, but it'd be tough to not smoke anymore cigs today (only had one thus far). But I don't see myself completely stop drinking alcohol. I'd just need to make it 1-2 times per week, not 7x per week, to say I gave up my "drinking problem". If I quit smoking, I'd quit for good. Quitting opiates is much harder than both of those though, IMO.
True, but even hard core drugs like heroine or meth are out of your system in a matter of days. Virtually all rehab programs focus on treating the mental and emotional aspects that lead people to use. If it were just a matter of getting over the physical addiction than why do so many people relapse after being sober for months?
JohnCU
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It's not that the alcohol is still in your system, it's what it does to your system that lasts forever, like messing up all the neurotransmitters. That takes more than a couple of days to fix. In an alcoholic brain, it's permanently rewired. It changes how you think.
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