Is ADD bullsh!t?

[invidia]

Alcoholism is a disease. It's a cancer

 

[NFS4]

Sounds like bullsh!t to me. Sounds like another excuse for poor parenting.

I find it interesting that the rise in cases of "ADD/ADHD" has also kept in step with the rise of unruly kids and pu$$y parents that are afraid to discipline their children.

 

[dullard]

ADD and its forms are real in my opinion. However, I also feel the vast, vast majority of the ADD diagnoses are incorrect. Most are hyper due to diet and bad parenting/school control and NOT hyper due to a real disease.

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: interchange
I don't believe AD/HD is overdiagnosed. It is mis-diagnosed in many cases (just like everything else), but it is not necessarily overdiagnosed. It may be even underdiagnosed. Does anyone out there legitimately believe its prevalance is actually increasing? I do.

At the moment, I don't feel as though its prevalence is increasing; it, from what I remember, has remained at a fairly constant rate of diagnosis for the past few decades at least.

It's possible that we're more able to accurately identify the condition nowadays, but I do feel that in many cases, it can be easily mis- and over-diagnosed.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: interchange
I don't believe AD/HD is overdiagnosed. It is mis-diagnosed in many cases (just like everything else), but it is not necessarily overdiagnosed. It may be even underdiagnosed. Does anyone out there legitimately believe its prevalance is actually increasing? I do.

It's increasing because of the massive $$ made by the drug companies and the parents/teachers who use it as a crutch. As mentioned before, put those same ADHD kids in front of a TV or playing a game and see how they can concentrate.

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: interchange
I don't believe AD/HD is overdiagnosed. It is mis-diagnosed in many cases (just like everything else), but it is not necessarily overdiagnosed. It may be even underdiagnosed. Does anyone out there legitimately believe its prevalance is actually increasing? I do.

It's increasing because of the massive $$ made by the drug companies and the parents/teachers who use it as a crutch. As mentioned before, put those same ADHD kids in front of a TV or playing a game and see how they can concentrate.

The amounts of medication used are increasing, but the diagnosis of the disorder itself--again, as best I can remember--is fairly constant. However, it has currently become the "diagnosis du jor," much like anxiety was in the 60's and 70's, possibly leading to a slight trend of over-diagnosis.

That being said, the disorder manifests itself much differently in different settings, although it should be apparent in nearly all of them.

 

[kinev]

Actually, ADHD is a recognized disorder. I have had it since I was 5. Biochemically, there is an increase in the re-uptake of certain neurotransmitters, such as dopamine and norepinephrine. When a patient is taking ADHD drugs, the frontal-striatal regions of the Hey, look, a doggie! Look at the little doggie. Come here boy......

 

[thirdlegstump]

Anxiety attacks, ADD..hell anything of that order are all complete BS. 99% of these people simply lack discipline and blame their uselessness on pseudo medical labels. It's a good medicine business though.....

 

[hypn0tik]

Yes. Pure bullshit

 

[Winchester]

Originally posted by: Juice Box

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Let's see, what did my parents do to me...

1) Was only able eat candy on Saturdays.
2) I had a bed time of like 9:00 PM until I was 10.
3) We use to eat mainly home-cooked food, not junk all the time.
4) I only had surprised television viewing in the living room.
5) Was not able to have my own TV or phone or computer until my teen years.
6) When I was 3, my dad and I walked to a junk wood pile where he had me select my paddle stick. I picked it out and he sanded it down and made a handle on one end. He then swatted me with it to get my attention and then hung it high in the kitchen where I could always see it. He used it on me 3 or 4 times between the ages of 3 and 9. First time I think was when I crossed the street alone without looking both ways. He needed an effective way to get the message across. He also used it if I was caught lying to him or my mother. How would he use it? He would first explain why I was being punished. He would then bend me over his knee and spank me 10 times with it on my bare butt. Lastly, he would hug me (while I was sobbing) and tell me he loved me.

I would say all of the above was quite effective. I never needed drugs.

Sounds similar to me, minus the whole "dad crafting me my own whipping paddle".....the hand/belt worked just fine

We never really had TV growing up as we lived in the boonies so I was always outside exploring etc, Except for that and the candy thing, most was the same (Mom had/as a sweet tooth). We spent a lot of time doing activities with our parents etc and just staying busy in the woods and fishing. I was almost 17 when I finally got a TV in my room, and that was because my parents had bought a new one and I bought their old one for college and I still have it.

My older sister always got to pick "my" belt. She would have to drag it from the closet.

I think 99% of it has to do with lack of discipline. I knew if my parents told me to do something and I did not do it that I was going to get busted.

 

[archiloco]

yes it's real, but it's overdiagnosed

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: tranceport

Originally posted by: Platypus
No, like a lot of other legitimate medical conditions, it is falsely and overlydiagnosed causing the line between the two to blur.

If we are going to be specific then I agree.


If we are just blurting out random thoughts then yes it's BS.

QFT

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Load of horse doodoo.

 

[Rock Hydra]

I swear I have ADD...It's hard for me to concentrate on work. The only things that usually keep me focused and centered is playing my guitar or video games. So, whenever I'm working and feeling unfocused, I do one of the two for about 20 minutes, then go back to what I was doing and am usually able to work again for another hour or so. Usually works...so, essentiall I've crafted my own medicine.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Yes. It started as "being a kid" and is now a diesase. Also used as an excuse way too often.

 

[d3n]

I think that its more of a character trait of people than a 'disorder' The disorder bit is so Docs get to prescribe drugs or whatever.

I also think that these traits people have can be exasperated by things like preservatives and food additives. Stuff like that In my experience can cause something akin to an allergic reaction in people. Perhaps a mild lack of focus or cloudiness, lethargy or the opposite fidgeting, very mild irritations that go unnoticed unless specifically looked for, sort of a buzzing that builds up and you never know its there. The whole ADD and ADHD thing is a label for this crap.

 

[Auryg]

Originally posted by: deathkoba
Anxiety attacks, ADD..hell anything of that order are all complete BS. 99% of these people simply lack discipline and blame their uselessness on pseudo medical labels. It's a good medicine business though.....

Anxiety attacks are real. I have a friend that gets them. She literally breaks down and can't function, and she doesn't use it to try to get attention. She tries to hide it.

ADD is also real, I have a cousin who very much had it. I've also seen kids that were on ritalin (sp?) who didn't need it, they just liked to horse around.

 

[Doctor Nyse]

Originally posted by: Tiamat
No, its an integral part of mathematics.

Hahahahah. Well done, man.

 

[zinfamous]

It is mediclaly diagnosable. But it in the end, it's more attributable to modern dipshit parents that choose to raise their kids with video games and IM rather than personal attention. They then choose to drug their kids to reduce their own instances of headaches.

 

[darrontrask]

Originally posted by: interchange
From a biomedical perspective, AD/HD is not much different from autism. It is very real and has a very complex array of symptoms and causes leading to much public debate.

Advice for parents:
- NEVER let your doctor give your kids antibiotics unless they have strep throat or a dangerous infection. If they must, request they prescribe an anti-fungal as well, and start them on a course of probiotics when the treatment is over.
- Do not consume high mercury content fish when pregnant; avoid fillings with mercury.
- Do not structure your kid's diet based on processed foods, sugars, and over reliance on wheat and dairy products that have a high incidence of allergies.
- Supplement your diets with a good source of Omega-3 fatty acids - preferably cod-liver oil that has been tested for heavy metals.

 

[teckmaster]

ADD is nothing a leather belt can't cure

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: zinfamous
It is mediclaly diagnosable. But it in the end, it's more attributable to modern dipshit parents that choose to raise their kids with video games and IM rather than personal attention. They then choose to drug their kids to reduce their own instances of headaches.

I grew up without video games and tv for the first 13 years of my life (2nd world country). And I've had plenty of leather belt. Still I have ADD.

 

[Legend]

Not BS. I tried for a year to break off Ritalin, and I did, but I could never concentrate like I could with Ritalin. It really cripples my ability to program for example. My mind will wander as I struggle to remember the locality of certain variables in a project I'm working with that has hundreds of files.

It's not diet. I'm a total health nut...I eat primarily fruits, vegetables, lean meats, whey, nuts, fish, green tea, etc. I workout frequently and get ~8-9 hours/sleep a night.

I see that people continue to blame caffeine. Caffeine isn't going to mess you up. It's the high glycemic and insulin spiking sugary substances found in sodas and fruit juices that cause fatigue. Green tea contains caffeine, and is considered one the healthiest things that you can drink/consume.

 

[DrPizza]

Amazingly, give most of the kids diagnosed with ADHD a game to play (xbox, etc.), and they suddenly have no problem with attention for hours on end. Most ADHD kids only have trouble paying attention when it's something they don't want to do. In my opinion, that's a disciplinary problem, not a medical problem. I HAVE, on the other hand, seen a few kids who genuinely did have ADHD. I coached one on a youth soccer team; I had to keep my eyes on him non-stop. "Okay, dribble the ball to the cone over there." kick kick kick kick "ohhhh, butterflyyyyyy" run run run "ooooooh, pretty flower" run run run... The result of those occasions where I've been able to interact with such kids makes me realize that ADHD is real, but over-diagnosed in the vast majority of cases. Hey, none of us wants to pay attention when we're not interested in something... accepting that you have to is part of growing up.

 

[sierrita]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Just another part of a "Drug Free America!"

I think it's just a lame excuse for good discipline. We would rather turn our kids into little zombies then give them a good spanking on the tush!

My child has Autism; should I just beat it out of her?