Is accepting it and apologizing the new deny everything?

[Mr Pickles]

Seems like everyone is switching to the new fad of coming straight and apologizing instead of strictly denying everything until it blows over. Either way, it will blow over. I'm thinking of Phelps and ARoid.

 

[RichardE]

It was Obamas speech regarding being a proper role model/man.

He changed everything.

 

[Lord Zado]

Part of the problem with denying allegations like these is that people tend to not believe you anyway. So now you get into a situation where not only are you accused of something, but people constantly talk about you being a liar, so the story gets dragged out longer and it stays in the headlines longer.

If someone comes out and says "Yup, I did it. Sorry about that.", then there's a lot less media fodder to keep the story in the national spotlight.

 

[Lamont Burns]

Not looking to change the topic(Or even venture into P&N territory), but RichardE's post made me think of the reporter asking Obama's opinion on ARod last night... dude is talking about the Economy and Iran and then ARod... wtf.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Lamont Burns
Not looking to change the topic(Or even venture into P&N territory), but RichardE's post made me think of the reporter asking Obama's opinion on ARod last night... dude is talking about the Economy and Iran and then ARod... wtf.

Yeah, that was funny :laugh:

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Lamont Burns
Not looking to change the topic(Or even venture into P&N territory), but RichardE's post made me think of the reporter asking Obama's opinion on ARod last night... dude is talking about the Economy and Iran and then ARod... wtf.

I thought that was pretty funny... caught him completely off guard (understandably). Not sure what he was trying to achieve... lighten the mood maybe? If he was trying to make the point that there is stuff going on other than the Greatest Depression, he could have a more significant news story.

 

[Redfraggle]

Originally posted by: Lamont Burns
Not looking to change the topic(Or even venture into P&N territory), but RichardE's post made me think of the reporter asking Obama's opinion on ARod last night... dude is talking about the Economy and Iran and then ARod... wtf.

Shows where national priorities are, huh? Scary.

To the OP: It's better to just admit something then to create all this mystique around yourself. Maybe they did it, maybe they didn't. Though photo evidence is pretty damning. Still, better just to say "oh ok, well you got me, I'm human, look at that." Why can't we, as a watching public, accept that they are people and will make mistakes and do the things the rest of us do?

 

[Feldenak]

Because that's the big thing now. Rehab is the big fucking secret now. Isn't it, huh? Yeah, you can do whatever you want. Just go into rehab and solve your problems. Isn't that the big celebrity thing? That's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, I'm gonna get famous. Then when my career starts to flag, I'm gonna go into three months fucking bender. Ok? Coke, and fucking pot, and smack, and fucking booze, and drive over people, and beat up my kids, go into therapy, go into rehab, come outta rehab, be on the cover of people magazine, "Sorry! I fucked up!"

Ok, so that's mainly about rehab but the point is still valid. No, it's not a new thing. Leary's "No Cure For Cancer" album came out in '92.

 

[Lamont Burns]

On the topic, I would say I prefer people being honest and apologizing than deny everything. I'm sure at some point tho sympathy will run dry and some poor schmuck is going to feel the wrath regardless and then we will get back to good ole' denial.

I'm usually pretty sympathetic, except for some reason with Marion Jones. Her denial was so adamant and spirited that when it came out, I just couldn't muster anything.

I wonder what would happen if someone like Lance Armstrong admitted to something...

 

[T9D]

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[Queasy]

I don't see non-apology apologies as being any better than deny deny deny either. Especially faced with irrefutable evidence that you did something.

 

[sash1]

well the roger clemens route isn't working too well...

 

[shocksyde]

Originally posted by: v1001
To many photo's, video, and the internet these days. To much proof and talk. Don't fool yourself, people are still a-holes.

To many typo's.

(Edited too add more typo's)

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: Queasy
I don't see non-apology apologies as being any better than deny deny deny either. Especially faced with irrefutable evidence that you did something.

Seriously. A-rod was backed into a corner and knew that the only way he could come out looking good was to apologize. I personally don't care what he says. Now any time I see that guy at the plate I will assume he is on something illegal but untestable.

 

[D1gger]

It seems to be much more acceptable to admit the act and then apologize than to deny. Compare the treatment Andy Pettitte and Jason Giambi received from the press and fans with the treatment of Bonds and Clemens and McGwire.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: Queasy
I don't see non-apology apologies as being any better than deny deny deny either. Especially faced with irrefutable evidence that you did something.

Seriously. A-rod was backed into a corner and knew that the only way he could come out looking good was to apologize. I personally don't care what he says. Now any time I see that guy at the plate I will assume he is on something illegal but untestable.

I thought he gave the best response he could but I find it amusing the last year he claims to have used was the year he was tested. How convenient, a fairy told him to quit in 2004.