Is a Xeon good for gaming?

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Torn Mind

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Interesting you (they) used the bus stepping, I wonder if that would work with 1150?

I thought Intel made changing the base clock straps only available to Haswell "K" chips and if you try to change the straps on a non-K one, it'll crash the system. That's Socket 2011, which lets you change the straps for any processor you stick in there.
 

Headfoot

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NTMBK stated that the E3-1240V3 will be as good as an i7-4770. So if I go with an i5-4570 and over clock it will it be like having a i7-4770? LOL!

What?

An overclocked 4770k is the fastest CPU you can buy for gaming, period, bar none (except for maybe Crysis 3, but lets not split hairs). Overclocking gets you to frequencies you can not buy. There is no Haswell chip sold that at stock will go to above 3.5 ghz on all cores. You can only get above that number with overclocking.

NTMBK is right: a E3-120V3 is as good as an i7-4770 AT STOCK SPEEDS. A 4770k can go ABOVE stock speeds, quite significantly. From 3.5ghz to 4.2-4.3 on average. That's 20% higher clocks which is close to 20% higher performance. This is the entire premise of overclocking



I do some video editing. Will hyperthreading be a plus? Like Sony Vegas.

Yes, hyperthreading will help with that.
 
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Arkaign

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The LGA2011 is just OCed BLCK clock isnt it.

They make unlocked K and X chips for 2011. However, those are ludicrously expensive of course. Xeons yes, you're stuck with bus overclocking as the multis are utterly locked. And on 1050, you're not really even able to do that much there, IIRC you get 5% OC there at most.

However, you do get turbo overclock with the right settings :

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18494164

"Xeon E3_1245V2

36X - 4 cores active
37X - 3 cores active
38X - 2 cores active
38X - 1 core active

To:

40X - 4 cores active
40X - 3 cores active
40X - 2 cores active
40X - 1 core active

Giving a 4GHz turbo all the time."

4Ghz to me is close enough to call it for the Xeon for this use (professional AND gaming 4C/8T for less than 4770K pricing, with no missing features!).

4670K and 4770K have artificially removed :

vPro
VT-D
Trusted Execution
TSX-NI

TSX is the most useful imho, but that would depend on the user.
 

evilr00t

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The LGA2011 is just OCed BLCK clock isnt it.

1.25x100 yes

1650 and 1660 IVB-E/SNB-E have unlocked bclk mult, not sure about ivy bridge ep (maybe 1680v2 is locked).

all chips with qpi are bclk multiplier locked though, I think
 

Torn Mind

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They make unlocked K and X chips for 2011. However, those are ludicrously expensive of course. Xeons yes, you're stuck with bus overclocking as the multis are utterly locked. And on 1050, you're not really even able to do that much there, IIRC you get 5% OC there at most.

However, you do get turbo overclock with the right settings :

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18494164

"Xeon E3_1245V2

36X - 4 cores active
37X - 3 cores active
38X - 2 cores active
38X - 1 core active

To:

40X - 4 cores active
40X - 3 cores active
40X - 2 cores active
40X - 1 core active

Giving a 4GHz turbo all the time."

4Ghz to me is close enough to call it for the Xeon for this use (professional AND gaming 4C/8T for less than 4770K pricing, with no missing features!).
The E3 V2s are Ivy Bridge chips and that's just the standard limited overclock 4 bins above turbo present on most non-K Ivy and Sandy Bridge chips. Although, it is good to know Ivy Bridge Xeons also have that "feature", I would highly doubt Haswell has it since non-K Haswells are totally locked down.
 

readymix

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tried 125 x 45 once ........ and failed. oh well, maybe more xeons in my future. turn the heat down and the blck up :)

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nenforcer

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Most Xeon's have an exact consumer equilavent but with additional features such as ECC memory support and virtualization features enabled (Vt-D), etc.

For instance, the Core 2 Duo E8400 has its Xeon counterpart as the Xeon E3110 on LGA775.

The Core 2 Quad Q9550 has it's Xeon equivalent being the Xeon X3360 also on LGA775.

The Intel Xeon W3560 is also sold as the Core i7 960 on Socket LGA1366.

Most Xeon chips run just fine in consumer motherboards (although you need to double check) but just without server features like ECC present in the BIOS.
 

Headfoot

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... Except now you can't overclock via blck which completely changes things. The only chips you can overclock are ones with blck ratio changing unlocked and multiplier unlocked. So the situation is completely different that it was before Sandy Bridge and all of what you said is no longer true or relevant beyond X58