Is a Ti4200 good enough?

[Bolivarted]

I am planning to build a system soon. I am going to cut corners on price for the pc because I am just waiting for the prices on Athlon 64 chips to fall. Then I'll buy another system in a year or two. Will a Ti4200 at 128mb be able to keep up with games and software for the next 18 months? I want to put this card on an Asus or Abit board (either the A7N8X Deluxe or AN7). I also have heard great things about the Athlon XP 2500+, as well as using PC 3200 with the Athlon. What do you think? Please let me know soon, there is a computer show this coming Sunday. Thanks

 

[Corporate Thug]

not for the next 18 months. the 4200 is showing is old age as is right now, try playing knights of the old republic with it

 

[VIAN]

I think you should buy some pretty good things to last about at year or two. Technology moves fast and the 4200 is obsolete right now.

What I recommend:

P4 3.0C, with 875 chipset on motherboard, 2x corsair pc 3200 xms for dual channel run, FX 5900 for graphics. Use built in sound or Audigy2 for high quality surround sound. A 400 watt powersupply. This will probably cost you money about 800 - 1000 dollars.

Something Cheaper:

Athlon XP 2800+, A7N8X, corsair xms pc2700, FX 5900 for graphics, use built in sound or Audigy2 for high quality surround sound. A 400 Watt powersupply.
This will run you about 500 - 700.

 

[Bolivarted]

Thanks for the advice. One more question, you prefer the Asus board over the Abit why? The Abit AN7 is the newer of the two. I thought it would not be outdated for some time.

 

[Bolivarted]

Thanks for the advice. I'll look at the 5900 or better

 

[McArra]

I'd have a look in Asus A7N8x Deluxe 2.0 (great onboard sound), 2500XP barton(unlocked), 2x corsair pc 3200 xms for dual channel run and a Radeon 9800np. A 400W power suply (don't cut corners here). I recommend Radeon over 5900 because it has much better DX9 performance.

Edit: Running NFSU@1280x1024 2xAA 16xAF (high detail). Motion Blur and light trails off. Using 9700Pro, 2500XP@2800, Asus A7N8X Delx 2.0, 2x256Mb dual chanel DDR333 and WinXP Pro

 

[Elcs]

My GF4 Ti4400 is starting to show its age a bit. I can run NFSU in 1024x768, all settings maxxed, no AA/AF with only very mild and occaisional slowdown. Unsure of how the game stacks up against something like UT or something along the lines of HL2 but a Video Card is a definate purchase for me in the near future.

As for motherboard, I use the AN7's little brother.... the NF7-S Rev 2.0 and I can say that I wouldnt trade it in for any other NForce2 motherboard. This board keeps everything nicely overclocked and stable.

 

[Tseng]

ATi 9600Pro 256MB or nVidia 5700U should be technically sufficient for the next 18 months.

 

[sugarkang]

ATi 9600Pro 256MB or nVidia 5700U should be technically sufficient for the next 18 months.

i disagree. look at the aquamark benches for the highest cpu/9800xt systems now.
average FPS = 60 and less.

i personally consider a game to be comfortably playable when avg is above 100fps.

directx 10 will be coming out with longhorn, or timed pretty closely from what i've read.
so the best cards to have would be the ones coming this spring, not anything now.

 

[McArra]

Originally posted by: Tseng
ATi 9600Pro 256MB or nVidia 5700U should be technically sufficient for the next 18 months.

9600Pro 256Mb is fuck!ng crap and 5700Ultra..... is ok but not for 18 months

 

[VIAN]

Radeon 9700 Pro is also a good choice and probably better since there is no performance problems in DX, which is a major API, and OpenGL peformance is decent. nVidia though, seems to have less compatability issues and their OpenGL performance is strong.

 

[GreatDaleness]

get a 9600pro for $150 with 600mzh memory or get a 5900nu for $200 with 850mhz memory.

Do NOT get the 2800, it cost almost twice as much as a 2500+ and you can OC the 2500+ to 3200+ anyway. New Bartons are locked, so you can only use FSB to OC.

 

[GreatDaleness]

I also reccomend the Shuttle AN35N Ultra MB if you are not using onboard sound.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: GreatDaleness
I also reccomend the Shuttle AN35N Ultra MB if you are not using onboard sound.

i have had 2 succesful builds with this mobo. i highly recommend it. it OC's well and is VERY stable.

 

[PhlashFoto]

im personally happy with my TI 4200. clocked to 290 core /610 mem.

 

[MichaelZ]

watever u decide to do, stay the hell away from 256MB 9600Pro's.

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: VIAN
I think you should buy some pretty good things to last about at year or two. Technology moves fast and the 4200 is obsolete right now.

What I recommend:

P4 3.0C, with 875 chipset on motherboard, 2x corsair pc 3200 xms for dual channel run, FX 5900 for graphics. Use built in sound or Audigy2 for high quality surround sound. A 400 watt powersupply. This will probably cost you money about 800 - 1000 dollars.

Something Cheaper:

Athlon XP 2800+, A7N8X, corsair xms pc2700, FX 5900 for graphics, use built in sound or Audigy2 for high quality surround sound. A 400 Watt powersupply.
This will run you about 500 - 700.

Hell the video card and chip will run 800-1000 alone

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: McArra
I'd have a look in Asus A7N8x Deluxe 2.0 (great onboard sound), 2500XP barton(unlocked), 2x corsair pc 3200 xms for dual channel run and a Radeon 9800np. A 400W power suply (don't cut corners here). I recommend Radeon over 5900 because it has much better DX9 performance.

Edit: Running NFSU@1280x1024 2xAA 16xAF (high detail). Motion Blur and light trails off. Using 9700Pro, 2500XP@2800, Asus A7N8X Delx 2.0, 2x256Mb dual chanel DDR333 and WinXP Pro

Correct ATI is spanking NVIDIA on the directx 9 and there is no relief in for NVIDIA. You want to play HL2 at a good frame rate then buy an ATI

 

[dguy6789]

People saying all these cards are crap, when a gf2 mx400 can play any game out at 1024X768 with medium to low settings(not lowest).

You cant use benchmarks to justify a card's futureproofness. No game out has even matched the nature test in 3dmark 01.

a 9600, 9600 Pro, GF FX 5600 Ultra Rev2, GF FX 5700 Ultra,rad 9500 pro, gf4 ti4200, all these cards and up would play games very well into the next few years. But the GF4s will give out before the others i mentioned. There, now you know what to get.