Is a Computer Engineering degree worth crap?

Tommy2000GT

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I was browising through the job listing at monster.com and hotjobs.com. Most of the IT jobs require a BS in Computer Science. I hardly found any jobs that needed a Computer
Engineering degree. I'm a freshman in Computer Engineering right now and I'm strongly considering changing my major to Computer Science. I want to do Unix/Linux sys admin and I think this is the best way to go.
 

LAUST

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I have seen some of the guy's where I am at now they have CIS degrees instead.
 
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Isla

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I dunno. Mr Isla got his in EE and he doesn't really use it. It just depends on how badly you want to suffer through your classes. :)

edit: oops, i forgot to say he was working towards a second degree in CE but never finished. He certainly hasn't had any trouble finding work... I guess it just depends on what you want to do and the market you are looking in.
 

sciencewhiz

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A computer engineering degree is worth much more than crap, but not for what you want to do. To get a job in IT, you definetly do not want a degree in Computer Engineering. Computer Science is also probably not the degree that you want either.

What you want is a degree along the lines of Computer Information Systems or something like that. Different colleges call it different things. The best bet is to talk to your counselor at you college and tell him/her what you want to do, and he/she will recommend the right major.
 

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Computer Engineering is a very useful and interesting degree. Most Computer Engineers are proficient in programming, and also have a lot of hardware/EE knowledge that's important in the engineering fields (where programming alone isn't enough).

If anything like device drivers, microcontroller programming, test & measurement engineering, or programming to control hardware interests you Computer Engineering is great.

Me? I'm going into Computer Engineering... I've already been programming for several years so getting a CS degree would only make me a programmer on paper. Computer Engineering earns a lot more respect in my opinion, but maybe that's just me :)
 

LocutusX

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I go to Canada's #1 CS/CE university (or so we like to think) and I can tell you that CompSci, as far as the job industry goes, is practically a subset of CompEng. I haven't yet met a CompEng who can't do a "CS" job. But there are many CS grads who wouldn't be able to get a CompEng job, because they don't have the necessary Engineering/Hardware background. Most CS curriculums are full of a lot of useless theoretical garbage which may be useful in getting a better understanding of the Computer Science paradigm, but help very little in the real world. Whereas CompEng is practically tailored exactly - or rather, engineered to the specifications of - the industry.

Also, I think at almost every university in this country, it is always harder to get into CompEng than CompSci. If CompSci requires an 85, CompEng requires a 92. Or something like that. Although that is probably more a function of CompSci being a part of the Liberal Arts & Sciences whereas CompEng is part of the more vigourous and restricted Engineering curriculum. Mind you, at some Universities (Cornell comes to mind), CompSci is in the school of engineering as well.
 

mAdD INDIAN

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LocutusX: What university do you goto? Waterloo?? I'm thinking of going there for Comp Eng.
 

Aikouka

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A computer engineering degree is worth much more than crap, but not for what you want to do. To get a job in IT, you definetly do not want a degree in Computer Engineering. Computer Science is also probably not the degree that you want either.

What you want is a degree along the lines of Computer Information Systems or something like that. Different colleges call it different things. The best bet is to talk to your counselor at you college and tell him/her what you want to do, and he/she will recommend the right major.

Yep. To sum it up, you're in the wrong major, Tommy boy!
 

veri745

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Almost any job that requires a degree in "Computer Science" with also say "or related field". From my experience (with a degree in CmpE) CmpE falls into the "related field" category.

The opposite tends not to be true.
 

Tim_Derr

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you tell me brah

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vshah

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if you want to do system administration, computer engineering / computer science are not for you. look into information systems type degrees.
 

Bryf50

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In my school Computer Engineering was identical to EE save for like 3-4 programming classes in place of EE classes . So mostly a CE can do any job requiring an EE degree. If your looking to be a Systems Admin then you are definitely in the wrong program. You should be getting a degree in Computer Science Information Systems but CS would definitely be closer to that type of work than CE would.
 
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highland145

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For the OP.....just DIAF.

For normal, smart, motivated guys....Guy I know has his name on 30 patents via Intel.
 

Zeze

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I didnt' even realize this Tommy kid's been here since 2000.

That means he's at least my age or older (early 30s).

He posts like he's 12...
 

SheHateMe

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I'm starting to feel like the degree doesn't matter so much as the connections you make with employers and stuff while you're in college.


I talked to a rep from Google at an IT mixer back in October. I felt pretty stupid for even trying, I was scared, and I felt intimidated by the kids in front of me with all their achievements.

Anyway, 2 days ago, I got an email from the Google rep saying that she has a program at Google that I might be interested in and to email her back so we can talk.


So, I don't know. I'm not even going for CS anymore, I switched to Communications and I am just wading through informal interviews.
 

Leros

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I'm starting to feel like the degree doesn't matter so much as the connections you make with employers and stuff while you're in college.


I talked to a rep from Google at an IT mixer back in October. I felt pretty stupid for even trying, I was scared, and I felt intimidated by the kids in front of me with all their achievements.

Anyway, 2 days ago, I got an email from the Google rep saying that she has a program at Google that I might be interested in and to email her back so we can talk.


So, I don't know. I'm not even going for CS anymore, I switched to Communications and I am just wading through informal interviews.

Don't get too excited about recruiters contacting you. They'll contact anything with a pulse. Recruiters are vermin.
 

randomrogue

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I don't understand the timeline at all. In 2000 he was a Freshman in college. He was like 21 in 2005. He's 23 today. What the hell is going on here?!