Is a car considered outdated if a newer model replaces it?

[WayneTeK]

People always want something that is new; that is our American culture and the American way. Unfortunately, this mind set isn't healthy because it's a expensive hobby to collect new cars always.

*In reference to older model cars, such as the Current Evo VIII, there is a newer model coming out very soon.
*The 2006 Mazda Miata vs. the last generation.
*There's even a new Toyota Supra coming out.
*Also, Honda's new XGA is supposed to be the replacement for the S2000.

Granted, newer cars do have recent technological upgrades to keep it fresh and safe, do you guys believe that as a result of this "NEWNESS" being implemented, it makes the previous generation of that car, outdated?

For instance, I'd feel very guilty if i bought the 2005 Miata before even realizing that the 2006 would be a FRESH new model. Why? Because even though it's a 2005, it's old technnology. Out with the old, in with the new.

What are your thoughts guys?

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: WayneTeK
What are your thoughts guys?

That you should stop posting car threads.

 

[Shawn]

Who cares? I'm happy with my 1994 miata.

 

[jagec]

Considering all 6 vehicles I've owned were built in the '80s, I think I shouldn't participate in this discussion. "New" is a commodity, but a commodity with no intrinsic value.

 

[WayneTeK]

Originally posted by: jagec
Considering all 6 vehicles I've owned were built in the '80s, I think I shouldn't participate in this discussion. "New" is a commodity, but a commodity with no intrinsic value.

Very well put.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Honda XGA? what?

 

[WayneTeK]

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Honda XGA? what?

It's in the current Road & Track magazine.

In the meantime, cheq this out.


http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/03/01/honda-xga-s2000-replacement/

 

[SampSon]

There isn't much better than driving a car off the lot with 0 miles on it.
I have always driven used cars, but after buying one of my first new cars I can say I will think long and hard before I go back to used. Though I will always own a older model car for a backup/secondary work car.

Either way I'll drive whatever car I own into the ground.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: SampSon
There isn't much better than driving a car off the lot with 0 miles on it.
I have always driven used cars, but after buying one of my first new cars I can say I will think long and hard before I go back to used. Though I will always own a older model car for a backup/secondary work car.

Either way I'll drive whatever car I own into the ground.

If you buy a car planning to drive it 200k+, new makes a LOT more sense, because you can keep tight control over its life cycle. But I like to try all the flavors...so new makes NO sense, and even semi-new (10 years or less) makes little sense. The "newest" car I've ever bought was 15 years old. And all told, I've spent about a third as much money for ALL my vehicles than if I had bought ONE new car.

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: SampSon
There isn't much better than driving a car off the lot with 0 miles on it.
I have always driven used cars, but after buying one of my first new cars I can say I will think long and hard before I go back to used. Though I will always own a older model car for a backup/secondary work car.

Either way I'll drive whatever car I own into the ground.

If you buy a car planning to drive it 200k+, new makes a LOT more sense, because you can keep tight control over its life cycle. But I like to try all the flavors...so new makes NO sense, and even semi-new (10 years or less) makes little sense. The "newest" car I've ever bought was 15 years old. And all told, I've spent about a third as much money for ALL my vehicles than if I had bought ONE new car.

My cars hit 200K miles in about 4-5 years. I also rely on my vehicle for my job so having a rock solid vehicle is #1 priority.

How many flavors can you get with a 15 year old car? Unless you're into classic cars. imho the extra couple thousand dollars (which if you say you can't afford then you need a better job) is worth getting a car that is 10 years newer. Though that's all subjective I guess.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: WayneTeK

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Honda XGA? what?

It's in the current Road & Track magazine.

In the meantime, cheq this out.


http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/03/01/honda-xga-s2000-replacement/

Doubt it.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: SampSon
There isn't much better than driving a car off the lot with 0 miles on it.
I have always driven used cars, but after buying one of my first new cars I can say I will think long and hard before I go back to used. Though I will always own a older model car for a backup/secondary work car.

Either way I'll drive whatever car I own into the ground.

If you buy a car planning to drive it 200k+, new makes a LOT more sense, because you can keep tight control over its life cycle. But I like to try all the flavors...so new makes NO sense, and even semi-new (10 years or less) makes little sense. The "newest" car I've ever bought was 15 years old. And all told, I've spent about a third as much money for ALL my vehicles than if I had bought ONE new car.

My cars hit 200K miles in about 4-5 years. I also rely on my vehicle for my job so having a rock solid vehicle is #1 priority.

How many flavors can you get with a 15 year old car? Unless you're into classic cars. imho the extra couple thousand dollars (which if you say you can't afford then you need a better job) is worth getting a car that is 10 years newer. Though that's all subjective I guess.

BMW sedan, light FWD sports, light MR sports, van, hatch, motorcycle. And they all ran fine.
/edit: well...I guess the van was a bit of a problem machine. But that's beside the point, it was a $500 vehicle anyway.

Given your mileage, it makes sense for you to buy new. But for me, well, regardless of my job, it doesn't make sense for me to buy a brand new $20k car when my $2k car is probably more reliable than half the "new" vehicles on the road. And mind you, that's the most expensive car I've ever bought...

 

[KrillBee]

i guess if you are concerned about safety, that would be a good reason.

i used to have a 90 galant, but my parents bought me a newer car when i graduated highschool (almost 4 years ago) a 96 maxima, just so id be safer and have a better car for the winter.

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: SampSon
There isn't much better than driving a car off the lot with 0 miles on it.
I have always driven used cars, but after buying one of my first new cars I can say I will think long and hard before I go back to used. Though I will always own a older model car for a backup/secondary work car.

Either way I'll drive whatever car I own into the ground.

If you buy a car planning to drive it 200k+, new makes a LOT more sense, because you can keep tight control over its life cycle. But I like to try all the flavors...so new makes NO sense, and even semi-new (10 years or less) makes little sense. The "newest" car I've ever bought was 15 years old. And all told, I've spent about a third as much money for ALL my vehicles than if I had bought ONE new car.

My cars hit 200K miles in about 4-5 years. I also rely on my vehicle for my job so having a rock solid vehicle is #1 priority.

How many flavors can you get with a 15 year old car? Unless you're into classic cars. imho the extra couple thousand dollars (which if you say you can't afford then you need a better job) is worth getting a car that is 10 years newer. Though that's all subjective I guess.

BMW sedan, light FWD sports, light MR sports, van, hatch, motorcycle. And they all ran fine.
/edit: well...I guess the van was a bit of a problem machine. But that's beside the point, it was a $500 vehicle anyway.

Given your mileage, it makes sense for you to buy new. But for me, well, regardless of my job, it doesn't make sense for me to buy a brand new $20k car when my $2k car is probably more reliable than half the "new" vehicles on the road. And mind you, that's the most expensive car I've ever bought...

I think it's less about flavor and more about your thin pockebook.
Though I understand what you're saying.

Personally after years of used cars I just cannot stand having to pick up and deal with someones old problems, at least for my primary vehicle.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: SampSon
Given your mileage, it makes sense for you to buy new. But for me, well, regardless of my job, it doesn't make sense for me to buy a brand new $20k car when my $2k car is probably more reliable than half the "new" vehicles on the road. And mind you, that's the most expensive car I've ever bought...

I think it's less about flavor and more about your thin pockebook.
Though I understand what you're saying.

Personally after years of used cars I just cannot stand having to pick up and deal with someones old problems, at least for my primary vehicle.[/quote]

If it was just about my thin pocketbook, I would have stuck with the first one.
If you pick your used car correctly, it doesn't HAVE problems.

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: SampSon
Given your mileage, it makes sense for you to buy new. But for me, well, regardless of my job, it doesn't make sense for me to buy a brand new $20k car when my $2k car is probably more reliable than half the "new" vehicles on the road. And mind you, that's the most expensive car I've ever bought...

I think it's less about flavor and more about your thin pockebook.
Though I understand what you're saying.

Personally after years of used cars I just cannot stand having to pick up and deal with someones old problems, at least for my primary vehicle.

If it was just about my thin pocketbook, I would have stuck with the first one.
If you pick your used car correctly, it doesn't HAVE problems.[/quote]
Stuck with the first what? Car? Well you like flavor, why not try out some new flavors? There is more than chocolate, vanilla and strawberry out there now you know!

All used cars have quirks that you don't know about until you own it for a while. If you're talking about a 10-15+ year old car there is almost no way it has absolutely no problems. Unless it has like 15 miles on it.

 

[theeedude]

I wouldn't say a 1990 miata is outdated (aside from fewer airbags and glass rear window) than the current model. Obviously new model is bigger and maybe has more features, but the 1990 still does what a roadster is supposed to do, which is provide fun sporty transportation, as good as the new one. I also wouldn't say 1990 Camry is outdated either, since Toyota hasn't really changed much in the formula. If you buy the car for the latest techno gizmos and the latest styling fad, then it may become outdated. But if you stick to the basics, it's all good.

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: WayneTeK
People always want something that is new; that is our American culture and the American way. Unfortunately, this mind set isn't healthy because it's a expensive hobby to collect new cars always.

*In reference to older model cars, such as the Current Evo VIII, there is a newer model coming out very soon.
*The 2006 Mazda Miata vs. the last generation.
*There's even a new Toyota Supra coming out.
*Also, Honda's new XGA is supposed to be the replacement for the S2000.

Granted, newer cars do have recent technological upgrades to keep it fresh and safe, do you guys believe that as a result of this "NEWNESS" being implemented, it makes the previous generation of that car, outdated?

For instance, I'd feel very guilty if i bought the 2005 Miata before even realizing that the 2006 would be a FRESH new model. Why? Because even though it's a 2005, it's old technnology. Out with the old, in with the new.

What are your thoughts guys?

My main car right now is a 1972 VW Squareback.

Obviously I couldn't care less about newness.

 

[hans007]

um if your car isnt the newest style it is well... not new. and well yes it is out of date and not current. but that doesnt mean you should replace your car of feel any reason to if it does what you need it to .



i mean a 486 is outdated, but if all you do is print out letters and use wordperfect you dont really have a reason to replace it or feel the need to.

 

[ISAslot]

My issue is having the same vehicle as other people do. That would be so boring to me. I need a rare car. Then if i ever see someone else with the same car, it's a treat. BTW, my car is 37 yrs old.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

nah, the first evo is hardly any slower at things like slalom courses than the new one

 

[MasterAndCommander]

what new Supra?

 

[Ornery]

1. 1974
   
   1972

 

[MasterAndCommander]

Originally posted by: Ornery

1. 1974
   
   1972

I like the '72 one better hahaha...'74 GTO, what an abomination:

Comments: For 1974, its last year, the once proud GTO was reduced to an option on the compact Ventura, either as a hatchback or a coupe. Only one engine was offered, a 350 V8 rated at a mere 200 bhp. This marked the first (and only) time the GTO came with any engine smaller than 389 cid, but at least it came standard with the classic "shaker hood" air scoop. Although it died a painful death, the GTO will always be remembered as the Great One that started it all.

Production: 7,058 (2D Coupe: 5,335 2D Hatchback: 1,723)
Engines: 350 V8 200 bhp.
Performance: 0-60 in 7.7 seconds, 1/4 mile in 15.72 seconds @ 88 mph

 

[FelixDeCat]

Yes, and this is the reason I wont buy BMW. They redesign their cars every 6 months (seemingly), making your 'investment' less what it was just 6 months ago.

Therefore, I like Porsche and drive Mercedes.