Is a 12ms response time for a monitor good?
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You already own the monitor, right? Do you notice any ghosting? What do you use your computer for?
It's good enough for me, I don't notice the ghosting. I think this is more of an individual preference thing though. People's perceptions are different.
Mines is 12ms and only analog. I 've never noticed ghosting. From what I hear, < or =16ms is enough.
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I remember reading around here somewhere that the response time isn't the best indicator. You don't always know if that's 12ms gray to gray or white to black or purple to lavender or whatever. ViewSonic does have the 19" 2ms monitor out, but I haven't heard from any reliable source whether or not it's actually a reliable spec.
I have an 8ms ViewSonic 17" that I picked up for like $250 and I've been really pleased with it. Lots of FPS games and no ghosting that I've ever noticed. However, when I'm watching my sopranos DVDs the image isn't quite as sharp as I'd like. Maybe that's the aspect ratio...still learning about this stuff.
I have an 8ms ViewSonic 17" that I picked up for like $250 and I've been really pleased with it. Lots of FPS games and no ghosting that I've ever noticed. However, when I'm watching my sopranos DVDs the image isn't quite as sharp as I'd like. Maybe that's the aspect ratio...still learning about this stuff.
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I think it's always black to white, but colour-to-colour is much more important, and a lower black-to-white response time only sometimes corresponds with a lower colour-to-colour response time.
In general though what you'll notice is ghosting if response time is too slow. My old (20ms-ish analog) 15" lcd was pretty mediocre for games and movies, but my new 17" with dvi, while certainly not rated at 8ms gives no problems.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116381
Just wanted to post the link. This is an interesting one because they say 8ms gray-to-gray (usually what response time is measured with) but also lists the white-black-white of 16ms.
are u sure 2 ms? I thought 3ms (or was it 4) was the fastest possible for an LCD. correct me if im wrong though
Viewsonic keeps changing the way they measure response time (there's actually a VESA standard for black-white-black response time, but grey-to-grey is done differently by everybody). The "2ms" ones aren't really any faster than the "4ms" ones, and even there it's somewhat questionable how much better they really are than the "8ms" models (and most of the ones lower than 12-16ms are 6-bit panels that display less accurate colors).
~8ms or so would probably get rid of ghosting almost entirely if it was actually 8ms all the time. Even the "4ms" monitors are only 4ms on average; their worst-case response times are still up in the 15-20ms range, which is clearly visible if you are looking for it. They are, however, MUCH better than older "16ms" or "25ms" monitors, where the worst-case response time was often in the 40-100ms range (which just looks awful with any kind of fast motion).
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I don't know if it's the average or whatever, but my Viewsonic VX922 is rated at 2ms. Took a bit getting used to and mesing with, but I love it now...
2ms means nothing. 2ms is much worse than a 12ms monitor or 16ms monitor. Even some 8ms monitors are worse than 12ms monitors. It all depends on the panel. It has been tested that the response time recorded was under "best situations" for all monitors. In other words, ALL of the extremely low response times of today's lcds (anything lower than 8ms), would only have like 8ms at one color but for the whole color range, it would be peaking at around 30ms. The very best monitors all have nearly the same amount of response time between all of the color ranges. For example, there was a review (for viewsonic VP191B) and it's response time was 16-18ms for the whole color range (i think it's 16-18ms or it might be 12-14ms)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116375
Im sure its not a lie, it says 2ms for grey to grey and white to black to white.
But like I said in my first post "anything less than 25ms should be fine"
Im sure its not a lie, it says 2ms for grey to grey and white to black to white.
But like I said in my first post "anything less than 25ms should be fine"
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