Is $4500 a fair price for a 2013 Honda CBR500R?

[ballmode]

I wish the CBR500 was available about 7-10 years ago, it would have been my starter bike. So much better than the Suzuki and Kawasaki 500's

 

[monkeydelmagico]

I wish the CBR500 was available about 7-10 years ago, it would have been my starter bike. So much better than the Suzuki and Kawasaki 500's

They did (sort of). It was the Hornet (599). I had one. It was awesome.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the CBR500R. The GS500 averages around 50 while the CBR500R averages between 65-70 mpg.

Man, I'm happy when I manage 40mpg out of my bike. It is an 1198 though. :wub:

It's kind of funny. When I bought this bike I thought 150hp would be more than I ever need, and it really is, but I find myself looking at the new Multistrada and thinking, "Hmm, 10 more hp would be kind of nice." I'm not tempted to buy though, I just bought this one.

 

[rstrohkirch]

The below comment isn't knocking this bike but just a general observation of the industry in general.


I noticed while looking this bike up that technology in these "low end" bike hasn't went anywhere in the last 20-25 years. They've migrated fuel injection and pushed standardized 17" wheel sizes to all models but that's it. Curb weights are about the same or more. The suspension is the same. Brakes are the same with a small bump in a rotor size. Engines have about the same amount of sad detuned hp/tq. The cbr500 for example makes 5hp less than the 25 year old ex500 and only a couple more than a 25 year well jetted gs500.

Running numbers through an inflation calculator shows that prices are basically the same though. So we're not really paying more for them.

 

[xaeniac]

The below comment isn't knocking this bike but just a general observation of the industry in general.


I noticed while looking this bike up that technology in these "low end" bike hasn't went anywhere in the last 20-25 years. They've migrated fuel injection and pushed standardized 17" wheel sizes to all models but that's it. Curb weights are about the same or more. The suspension is the same. Brakes are the same with a small bump in a rotor size. Engines have about the same amount of sad detuned hp/tq. The cbr500 for example makes 5hp less than the 25 year old ex500 and only a couple more than a 25 year well jetted gs500.

Running numbers through an inflation calculator shows that prices are basically the same though. So we're not really paying more for them.

Face it Americans are not willing to pay big bucks for a small bike. The mentality is the bigger the better. Possibly could be a reason for that.

 

[Noo]

The below comment isn't knocking this bike but just a general observation of the industry in general.


I noticed while looking this bike up that technology in these "low end" bike hasn't went anywhere in the last 20-25 years. They've migrated fuel injection and pushed standardized 17" wheel sizes to all models but that's it. Curb weights are about the same or more. The suspension is the same. Brakes are the same with a small bump in a rotor size. Engines have about the same amount of sad detuned hp/tq. The cbr500 for example makes 5hp less than the 25 year old ex500 and only a couple more than a 25 year well jetted gs500.

Running numbers through an inflation calculator shows that prices are basically the same though. So we're not really paying more for them.

Or your can look at it in an optimistic view. You've gained:

- Fuel injection - starts right up and runs perfect every single time no matter the weather condition.

- Larger, stronger, and better brakes especially with ABS.

- Larger wheels which give you significantly more options in term of tire choices.

- A Sport bike look. A beginner's bike that doesn't look like a beginner's bike. It's nearly indistinguishable from a supersport (Ninja 300, Yamaha R3, CBR300R, CBR500r). Look at all of the beginner's bike in the past, they all look like ass.

- Significantly better fuel economy from the same engine size. The GS500, EX500, ETC in the past gets around 50MPG, the new ones are getting 65 and 70MPG.

- More HP & Torque.

All of this upgrade for the $0 increase in price adjusted for inflation.

P.S.
Took the bike out for a ride yesterday and boy this thing got a lot of torque. Right off the line it pulls faster and stronger than my previous bike supersport (Ninja zx6r), it falls flat on its face pretty fast though. It caught me by surprise because the throttle response is pretty sharp and the torque is a little too much from a standstill, maybe honda need to tone it down a little bit.

 

[Noo]

Man, I'm happy when I manage 40mpg out of my bike. It is an 1198 though. :wub:

It's kind of funny. When I bought this bike I thought 150hp would be more than I ever need, and it really is, but I find myself looking at the new Multistrada and thinking, "Hmm, 10 more hp would be kind of nice." I'm not tempted to buy though, I just bought this one.

Just looked at the spec on the multistrada, 100ft/lbs of torque @ 7500rpm😱. Seriously WTF. Who needs all of that.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Just looked at the spec on the multistrada, 100ft/lbs of torque @ 7500rpm😱. Seriously WTF. Who needs all of that.

Honestly? I don't know. Mine makes close to 92ft lbs of torque (same engine as the 2015 just without DVT-Desmodromic Variable Timing). It just has tons of power everywhere which makes it extremely fun to ride.

It isn't exactly a light bike at close to 500lbs but it is a sport touring bike and mine will do some touring so loaded up with luggage or riding two up it will be nice to have that extra grunt. I have the 2014 S model which comes with the side panniers and electronically adjustable suspension and a couple other things I'm probably forgetting.

So far it is just performing commuting duty and some mild hooliganism, which it excels at. I have almost 2000 miles on it at the moment. :wub:

 

[pauldun170]

Those are supposed to be great street bikes. Congrats on the new ride.
I would classify that as a good all round bike.

 

[Noo]

Got the GPS mounted and is waiting for warmer weather.