Is 3 Mbps "high speed" internet?

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Lifer
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Power went out for an hour this morning and when it came back the cable modem wouldn't sync. Comcast says its my area and they hope to have it fixed "soon"

So, I am on my backup DSL 3Mbps line. And it sucks. I mean really sucks. There was a time I would have called 3Mbps high speed but not any more. Even just surfing takes me to pages that load slowly.

We need a category between dial up and high speed. Advertising 3 Mbps as high speed is ludicrous.

/rant
 

mizzou

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3mpbs is good enough for a sub 100 ping on a few servers

I don't think you can feed HD content though
 

brianmanahan

Lifer
Sep 2, 2006
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i pay 60$ a month for 3 mpbs, which is advertised as high speed

where i live, it is either that... or 56k o_O

also - you have a backup line? for business, or for, um, business?
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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i pay 60$ a month for 3 mpbs, which is advertised as high speed

where i live, it is either that... or 56k o_O

also - you have a backup line? for business, or for, um, business?

Got a special two year deal for my business phone that added the DSL for no extra charge. My main business line is thru Comcast and is 80 Mbps.
 

Malak

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When Comcast first came to my area, it was 1.5 mbps. Nothing came close. I was thrilled. Remember when T1's were legendary?
 

waggy

No Lifer
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yeah. if you aren't downloading pirated sotware. its good enough for 90% of the shit you will do
 

SlitheryDee

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Until this week 3mbps was the best I could get. I just upgraded to u-verse 6mbps, which is the new best I can get in my area. No difference from a web surfing perspective. Pings are the same (around 50-100). The main difference is that my download speeds on steam have indeed doubled, which is basically all I wanted anyway.
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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When ADSL came out here in the early 2000's it was 1mb down (not sure what up was) and it was considered high speed. It's actually funny to see the equipment for that. Huge racks with newbridge shelves and huge cards that go in. 8 customers per card. lmao. At the time this was revolutionary though. The new shelves have like 48 customers per card or something like that. Right now we get about 8mb. I think you can get around 12 if you are very close to the CO.

Thing is 1mb was more than fast enough when it came out but now webmasters like to overuse flash, javascript and overall bloat up web pages so they use way more bandwidth.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
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Highspeed was designed for piracy, just like the internet is for porn :p. ISP TV commercials even say stuff like "download movies and music faster" in their advertisements.
 

mikeymikec

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BBC iPlayer (with HD video content) requires just over 3Mbit/sec.

At the place I lived at previously, I could get ~8Mbit/sec. I moved home to a place 5 minutes away and it dropped to 3Mbit/sec. I was not impressed. My wife and I regularly encountered throughput issues related to a single download while continuing to browse.

I found a wiring issue and the line speed instantly doubled. Once it did that, browsing and downloading was a lot more bearable for us. Since then it's gone up to 8-10, and the line was upgraded to ADSL2 so we have triple the upload bandwidth (a mind-boggling 1Mbit/sec! </sarcasm>). Fibre broadband is now available but we're on a tight budget and it wouldn't make enough of a difference to us anyway IMO. The only way that my wife might appreciate it is when she tries to upload a video to FB and I insist that it has to be done overnight (with fibre I would be surprised if it saturated the upstream, but I could be wrong).
 
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techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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yeah. if you aren't downloading pirated sotware. its good enough for 90% of the shit you will do

Did a clean Windows 7 install. Total downloads after come to about a gig. Plus had to download Office from the web. Not to mention a 300 mb HP driver.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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you shouldn't be a pirate anyway!

:colbert:

Code:
tuxj@HP-Setup:~$ vrms
              Non-free packages installed on HP-Setup

amd-libopencl1                      AMD OpenCL library
libcuda1                            NVIDIA CUDA runtime library
libgl1-nvidia-glx                   NVIDIA binary OpenGL libraries
libnvidia-compiler                  NVIDIA runtime compiler library
libnvidia-ml1                       NVIDIA management library (NVML) runtime library
libxvmcnvidia1                      NVIDIA binary XvMC library
nvidia-alternative                  allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX provider
nvidia-glx                          NVIDIA metapackage
nvidia-kernel-dkms                  NVIDIA binary kernel module DKMS source
nvidia-opencl-common                NVIDIA OpenCL driver
nvidia-opencl-icd                   NVIDIA OpenCL ICD
nvidia-smi                          NVIDIA System Management Interface
nvidia-vdpau-driver                 NVIDIA vdpau driver
spideroak                           SpiderOak Secure File Backup, Sync, and Sharing Client
teamviewer                          TeamViewer (Remote Control Application)
unrar                               Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version) - binary
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia           NVIDIA binary Xorg driver

  Non-free packages with status other than installed on HP-Setup

libgl1-nvidia-alternatives-ia32     ( dei)  simplifies replacing MESA libGL with GPU vendo
teamviewer7                         ( dei)  TeamViewer (Remote Control Application)

              Contrib packages installed on HP-Setup

conky-all                           highly configurable system monitor (all features enabl
flashplugin-nonfree                 Adobe Flash Player - browser plugin
glx-alternative-mesa                allows the selection of MESA as GLX provider
glx-alternative-nvidia              allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX provider
glx-diversions                      prepare for using accelerated GLX implementations from
libxnvctrl0                         NV-CONTROL X extension (runtime library)
nvidia-installer-cleanup            cleanup after driver installation with the nvidia-inst
nvidia-kernel-common                NVIDIA binary kernel module support files
nvidia-settings                     tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
nvidia-support                      NVIDIA binary graphics driver support files
nvidia-xconfig                      X configuration tool for non-free NVIDIA drivers
virtualbox                          x86 virtualization solution - base binaries
virtualbox-dkms                     x86 virtualization solution - kernel module sources fo
virtualbox-qt                       x86 virtualization solution - Qt based user interface
winetricks                          package manager for WINE to install software easily

   Contrib packages with status other than installed on HP-Setup

virtualbox-4.1                      ( dei)  Oracle VM VirtualBox

  19 non-free packages, 0.8% of 2519 installed packages.
  16 contrib packages, 0.6% of 2519 installed packages.
tuxj@HP-Setup:~$
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Did a clean Windows 7 install. Total downloads after come to about a gig. Plus had to download Office from the web. Not to mention a 300 mb HP driver.

that will do it too. how often do you reinstall windows though? for most 3mb is enough for daily use of the connection.

when you throw in huge downloads and games (though not as bad) is when it bogs down.

but for general looking at web pages (even youtube to apoint) and reading email 3mb is far more then enough.


though i admit i want a 100meg fiber connect...
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Code:
tuxj@HP-Setup:~$ vrms
              Non-free packages installed on HP-Setup

amd-libopencl1                      AMD OpenCL library
libcuda1                            NVIDIA CUDA runtime library
libgl1-nvidia-glx                   NVIDIA binary OpenGL libraries
libnvidia-compiler                  NVIDIA runtime compiler library
libnvidia-ml1                       NVIDIA management library (NVML) runtime library
libxvmcnvidia1                      NVIDIA binary XvMC library
nvidia-alternative                  allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX provider
nvidia-glx                          NVIDIA metapackage
nvidia-kernel-dkms                  NVIDIA binary kernel module DKMS source
nvidia-opencl-common                NVIDIA OpenCL driver
nvidia-opencl-icd                   NVIDIA OpenCL ICD
nvidia-smi                          NVIDIA System Management Interface
nvidia-vdpau-driver                 NVIDIA vdpau driver
spideroak                           SpiderOak Secure File Backup, Sync, and Sharing Client
teamviewer                          TeamViewer (Remote Control Application)
unrar                               Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version) - binary
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia           NVIDIA binary Xorg driver

  Non-free packages with status other than installed on HP-Setup

libgl1-nvidia-alternatives-ia32     ( dei)  simplifies replacing MESA libGL with GPU vendo
teamviewer7                         ( dei)  TeamViewer (Remote Control Application)

              Contrib packages installed on HP-Setup

conky-all                           highly configurable system monitor (all features enabl
flashplugin-nonfree                 Adobe Flash Player - browser plugin
glx-alternative-mesa                allows the selection of MESA as GLX provider
glx-alternative-nvidia              allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX provider
glx-diversions                      prepare for using accelerated GLX implementations from
libxnvctrl0                         NV-CONTROL X extension (runtime library)
nvidia-installer-cleanup            cleanup after driver installation with the nvidia-inst
nvidia-kernel-common                NVIDIA binary kernel module support files
nvidia-settings                     tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
nvidia-support                      NVIDIA binary graphics driver support files
nvidia-xconfig                      X configuration tool for non-free NVIDIA drivers
virtualbox                          x86 virtualization solution - base binaries
virtualbox-dkms                     x86 virtualization solution - kernel module sources fo
virtualbox-qt                       x86 virtualization solution - Qt based user interface
winetricks                          package manager for WINE to install software easily

   Contrib packages with status other than installed on HP-Setup

virtualbox-4.1                      ( dei)  Oracle VM VirtualBox

  19 non-free packages, 0.8% of 2519 installed packages.
  16 contrib packages, 0.6% of 2519 installed packages.
tuxj@HP-Setup:~$

well you are just a fucking nerd and we can't help that :biggrin:

ok for most people 3mb is enough. lol. forget people here are anal and have to use extreme's to make a point.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
70,894
13,919
126
www.anyf.ca
Code:
tuxj@HP-Setup:~$ vrms
              Non-free packages installed on HP-Setup

amd-libopencl1                      AMD OpenCL library
libcuda1                            NVIDIA CUDA runtime library
libgl1-nvidia-glx                   NVIDIA binary OpenGL libraries
libnvidia-compiler                  NVIDIA runtime compiler library
libnvidia-ml1                       NVIDIA management library (NVML) runtime library
libxvmcnvidia1                      NVIDIA binary XvMC library
nvidia-alternative                  allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX provider
nvidia-glx                          NVIDIA metapackage
nvidia-kernel-dkms                  NVIDIA binary kernel module DKMS source
nvidia-opencl-common                NVIDIA OpenCL driver
nvidia-opencl-icd                   NVIDIA OpenCL ICD
nvidia-smi                          NVIDIA System Management Interface
nvidia-vdpau-driver                 NVIDIA vdpau driver
spideroak                           SpiderOak Secure File Backup, Sync, and Sharing Client
teamviewer                          TeamViewer (Remote Control Application)
unrar                               Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version) - binary
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia           NVIDIA binary Xorg driver

  Non-free packages with status other than installed on HP-Setup

libgl1-nvidia-alternatives-ia32     ( dei)  simplifies replacing MESA libGL with GPU vendo
teamviewer7                         ( dei)  TeamViewer (Remote Control Application)

              Contrib packages installed on HP-Setup

conky-all                           highly configurable system monitor (all features enabl
flashplugin-nonfree                 Adobe Flash Player - browser plugin
glx-alternative-mesa                allows the selection of MESA as GLX provider
glx-alternative-nvidia              allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX provider
glx-diversions                      prepare for using accelerated GLX implementations from
libxnvctrl0                         NV-CONTROL X extension (runtime library)
nvidia-installer-cleanup            cleanup after driver installation with the nvidia-inst
nvidia-kernel-common                NVIDIA binary kernel module support files
nvidia-settings                     tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
nvidia-support                      NVIDIA binary graphics driver support files
nvidia-xconfig                      X configuration tool for non-free NVIDIA drivers
virtualbox                          x86 virtualization solution - base binaries
virtualbox-dkms                     x86 virtualization solution - kernel module sources fo
virtualbox-qt                       x86 virtualization solution - Qt based user interface
winetricks                          package manager for WINE to install software easily

   Contrib packages with status other than installed on HP-Setup

virtualbox-4.1                      ( dei)  Oracle VM VirtualBox

  19 non-free packages, 0.8% of 2519 installed packages.
  16 contrib packages, 0.6% of 2519 installed packages.
tuxj@HP-Setup:~$

That's Lunix! You must be some hacker or something. :biggrin:
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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Praise the Lord. Its back. Out for almost exactly 8 hours.
Hmm. Getting full speed!
 

NutBucket

Lifer
Aug 30, 2000
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Are there a lot of folks here that have backup (hardwired) internet connections? I mean technically many people have backup connections through a tethered smart phone so lets leave that out of the equation.