Is 1.85V and lower OK for Athlon XP barton?

[Cesar]

My friend has Barton 2500+ at 3200+ speed with 1.775V he wants to know if 1.8V~1.85V is ok for his CPU I personly don't know

 

[jar5tyle]

I would say yes

 

[pillage2001]

Good cooling = yes.

 

[bjc112]

Good cooling really doesn't have that much of an effect..

Once the voltage gets so high you tend to break down resistors..

1.85V is the absolute highest i would go.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: bjc112
Good cooling really doesn't have that much of an effect..

Once the voltage gets so high you tend to break down resistors..

1.85V is the absolute highest i would go.

Running a processor for any period of time @ 1.8v or higher will destroy it in a matter of months, maybe weeks. No matter how cool your processor is, you can still do damage.

 

[Corporate Thug]

1.85V is really pushing, i hope u are getting a good yield over something like 1.75V

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: bjc112
Good cooling really doesn't have that much of an effect..

Once the voltage gets so high you tend to break down resistors..

1.85V is the absolute highest i would go.

Running a processor for any period of time @ 1.8v or higher will destroy it in a matter of months, maybe weeks. No matter how cool your processor is, you can still do damage.

Exactly..

Or where you just backing me up... ?

 

[Doh!]

Originally posted by: NeborRunning a processor for any period of time @ 1.8v or higher will destroy it in a matter of months, maybe weeks. No matter how cool your processor is, you can still do damage.

My XP 1800+ has been at 1.8v for about a year, 24/7 (except few hours for upgrades). The actual voltage by Aida32 is actually higher (1.82~1.86) probably due to overvolting by my motherboard. I wouldn't go over 1.8 but 1.8 has been A-OK for me.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Doh!

Originally posted by: NeborRunning a processor for any period of time @ 1.8v or higher will destroy it in a matter of months, maybe weeks. No matter how cool your processor is, you can still do damage.

My XP 1800+ has been at 1.8v for about a year, 24/7 (except few hours for upgrades). The actual voltage by Aida32 is actually higher (1.82~1.86) probably due to overvolting by my motherboard. I wouldn't go over 1.8 but 1.8 has been A-OK for me.

Nope, you're wrong. Your chip is dead, and you don't even know it. Yeesh. So if someone was on here wondering if he could survive a head on collision at 90mph, and I said, "No, you'll die." And you came on here, and said, "No, I miraculously survived that very type of accident!" Would that make it a good idea?

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Doh!

Originally posted by: NeborRunning a processor for any period of time @ 1.8v or higher will destroy it in a matter of months, maybe weeks. No matter how cool your processor is, you can still do damage.

My XP 1800+ has been at 1.8v for about a year, 24/7 (except few hours for upgrades). The actual voltage by Aida32 is actually higher (1.82~1.86) probably due to overvolting by my motherboard. I wouldn't go over 1.8 but 1.8 has been A-OK for me.

Nope, you're wrong. Your chip is dead, and you don't even know it. Yeesh. So if someone was on here wondering if he could survive a head on collision at 90mph, and I said, "No, you'll die." And you came on here, and said, "No, I miraculously survived that very type of accident!" Would that make it a good idea?

You know what? I hate to say it, I can't believe I'm saying it, but I actually agree with Nebor on this one. Analogy and all.

I think 1.85V (on air) is too high for a Barton if you plan on keeping it for any extended length of time.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: bjc112
Good cooling really doesn't have that much of an effect..

Once the voltage gets so high you tend to break down resistors..

1.85V is the absolute highest i would go.

Running a processor for any period of time @ 1.8v or higher will destroy it in a matter of months, maybe weeks. No matter how cool your processor is, you can still do damage.

wrong, read this thread.

i'm at 1.85v for quite a while now, and i used to roast my previous celerons at far far above spec voltages, they never died.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: bjc112
Good cooling really doesn't have that much of an effect..

Once the voltage gets so high you tend to break down resistors..

1.85V is the absolute highest i would go.

Running a processor for any period of time @ 1.8v or higher will destroy it in a matter of months, maybe weeks. No matter how cool your processor is, you can still do damage.

wrong, read this thread.

i'm at 1.85v for quite a while now, and i used to roast my previous celerons at far far above spec voltages, they never died.

Read my above post. You are the acception. This is a BAD IDEA. Well, I should say, a bad idea if you want your processor to last. You are not a normal case. You were driving a Volvo.

 

[0roo0roo]

people are surviving on 1.95v on air somehow too, so i'm not special. you shouldn't do it on a retail cdooler obviously, but its not that hard. i used to clock 1.6? v tuallies at 2v, and well, ones still running other one still runs, but i upgraded to xp cpu. my 2 older celly 566@850 had a similar voltage bump and didn't die, my old p2 400 oc'd a measly 50mhz but with a voltage bump survived too.

maybe you should read the relavent parts of the link to find out more about it then "its a bad idea".

unless your incompetent, your cpu will last just fine. speced to 15 years, if you halve or even quarter it, who cares, by the time it dies, it will be worth a happy meal.

 

[Doh!]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Doh!

Originally posted by: NeborRunning a processor for any period of time @ 1.8v or higher will destroy it in a matter of months, maybe weeks. No matter how cool your processor is, you can still do damage.

My XP 1800+ has been at 1.8v for about a year, 24/7 (except few hours for upgrades). The actual voltage by Aida32 is actually higher (1.82~1.86) probably due to overvolting by my motherboard. I wouldn't go over 1.8 but 1.8 has been A-OK for me.

Nope, you're wrong. Your chip is dead, and you don't even know it. Yeesh. So if someone was on here wondering if he could survive a head on collision at 90mph, and I said, "No, you'll die." And you came on here, and said, "No, I miraculously survived that very type of accident!" Would that make it a good idea?

Relax, too much glucose for a day? Read my post again. Did my post pose any rebuttal to your previous claim? No. My post solely details my experience of running a T-Bred at 1.8v for a period of a year. If you want to call it an "exception", so be it. As stated above, I wouldn't go over 1.8v but 1.8v has been A-OK for me. By the way, running a T-bred at 1.8v is hardly as life threatening as having a head-on collision at 90mph. It's just a cpu. don't take it too seriously. There's far more important things in life than a $50 keychain.

 

[mamisano]

Another here running at 1.85v on Air (SLK-800). Temps are ususally in the low 50's at full load....haven't had any issues. Instead of stating that we are an exception to the rule, show me all the people who have fried their chips "in weeks" at 1.85v...

 

[pelikan]

IMHO 1.9V or less is fine with top of the line air. Even 2V if you have water cooling.
I ran a 2100+ at 1.9V for almost a year with no problems.

 

[Cesar]

Originally posted by: pelikan
IMHO 1.9V or less is fine with top of the line air. Even 2V if you have water cooling. I ran a 2100+ at 1.9V for almost a year with no problems.

nice

 

[pelikan]

Let me add that I would not recommend running 1.9V to anyone who is not comfortable with risking their processor's life. I think the risk is low with good cooling, but it is a risk.

 

[Cesar]

Originally posted by: pelikan
Let me add that I would not recommend running 1.9V to anyone who is not comfortable with risking their processor's life. I think the risk is low with good cooling, but it is a risk.

my friend has the SLK-800 with Smart case fan II @ 4800rpm

 

[Shimmishim]

yeah

i'm going to have to disagree with you nebor

i ran my 1700+ at 1.9 volts for months and it never died...

for that matter, i ran all my tbreds between 1.8 to 1.9 volts and NONE of them ever died...

i think 1.85 is the upper limit to these chips that i'm comfortable with...

 

[Soulkeeper]

it's just a calculated risk

personally i wouldn't go over like 1.75 (actuall voltage) on a Barton or tbred for long term use


the .18u athlons loved high voltages a little more than so feel free to crank them up

 

[Actaeon]

I'm actually running 1.93, and it undervolts to about 1.9...

Chip is okay, temps are a bit under 50 full load in a pretty warm house...

Been running at "high" voltages for a month or so now, no problems.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: mamisano
Another here running at 1.85v on Air (SLK-800). Temps are ususally in the low 50's at full load....haven't had any issues. Instead of stating that we are an exception to the rule, show me all the people who have fried their chips "in weeks" at 1.85v...

I killed a Barton in two days @ 1.85v. Ran like a champ the first day, started acting flakey the next, reported no CPU by end of second day.

 

[pelikan]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: mamisano
Another here running at 1.85v on Air (SLK-800). Temps are ususally in the low 50's at full load....haven't had any issues. Instead of stating that we are an exception to the rule, show me all the people who have fried their chips "in weeks" at 1.85v...

I killed a Barton in two days @ 1.85v. Ran like a champ the first day, started acting flakey the next, reported no CPU by end of second day.

Can I ask what kind of cooling and psu you were using?
Thanks.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Doh!

Originally posted by: NeborRunning a processor for any period of time @ 1.8v or higher will destroy it in a matter of months, maybe weeks. No matter how cool your processor is, you can still do damage.

My XP 1800+ has been at 1.8v for about a year, 24/7 (except few hours for upgrades). The actual voltage by Aida32 is actually higher (1.82~1.86) probably due to overvolting by my motherboard. I wouldn't go over 1.8 but 1.8 has been A-OK for me.

Nope, you're wrong. Your chip is dead, and you don't even know it. Yeesh. So if someone was on here wondering if he could survive a head on collision at 90mph, and I said, "No, you'll die." And you came on here, and said, "No, I miraculously survived that very type of accident!" Would that make it a good idea?

Nope, you're wrong..

His chip isn't dead and many others are not...

Chances are he has another year or more in that thing..