Is 1 = 0.9999......

[MadRat]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: MadRat
Hector, if anyone is trolling it's the small minority of mathematical geniuses spouting how they understand math and nobody else around here gets it unless 1=.999...; they're pretty easy to spot since they start every one of their rebuttals in the thread with something akin to "You really don't understand math..."

name the number between 1 and .999...

if you can't, you're the troll.

Go back several pages, Mr. Smurf.

 

[crazygal]

What in the hell....they are EXACTLY equal people!
Don't believe me? Go talk to a math professor.

 

[bleeb]

Originally posted by: crazygal
What in the hell....they are EXACTLY equal people!
Don't believe me? Go talk to a math professor.

Why don't you prove it by writing what the professor told you CrazyGal... this thread has gone on long enough~

 

[Fandu]

name the number between 1 and .999...

if you can't, you're the troll.

That's easy..

1/(1+1/oo)))

 

[bleeb]

Originally posted by: Fandu

name the number between 1 and .999...

if you can't, you're the troll.

That's easy..

1/(1+1/oo)))

That's EXACTLY what I said. But no one believes me..

 

[TuxDave]

Well.... numbers are in a continuous spectrum. So there will always be numbers between numbers right? You used 1/oo in the above equation. What's between 1/oo and zero?

 

[CrazyPerson]

wtf, this is still here

 

[Fandu]

Originally posted by: TuxDave
Well.... numbers are in a continuous spectrum. So there will always be numbers between numbers right? You used 1/oo in the above equation. What's between 1/oo and zero?

1/oo/2

Serisouly though, there will always be a number between 1 and 0.9999, or similarly 0 and 1/oo. It's merly a function of how much resolution you want to use. This question is exactly why Calculus was developed. lim(1/x,0<x->oo) evaluates to almost 0, but never quite 0.

 

[bleeb]

Originally posted by: Fandu

Originally posted by: TuxDave
Well.... numbers are in a continuous spectrum. So there will always be numbers between numbers right? You used 1/oo in the above equation. What's between 1/oo and zero?

1/oo/2

Serisouly though, there will always be a number between 1 and 0.9999, or similarly 0 and 1/oo. It's merly a function of how much resolution you want to use. This question is exactly why Calculus was developed. lim(1/x,0<x->oo) evaluates to almost 0, but never quite 0.

So what you are saying is that 0.9999 != 1?

 

[dighn]

does 1/oo/2 even make sense? :Q something infinitely close to 0 if can be divided into a smaller number then that means originally it was not infinitely close

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: Mday
kyteland, i am going to find out where you live, and beat you with to an inch of your life...

i have no idea how i am going to do that since life isnt measured in inches.

Well, if you have your heart set on it, I live in Chicago near California and Diversey. You can probably catch me as I walk to work in the morning.

I don't know why you hate me so.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Is there a sparknotes or cliffnotes version of this with all the equations and statements used to back up either side? I'd like to see what people said... but not 45 pages worth of it...

 

[bleeb]

Oh man... it would take forever to look though all the pages and come up with all the equations and analysis... most of it is just fluff though...

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Is there a sparknotes or cliffnotes version of this with all the equations and statements used to back up either side? I'd like to see what people said... but not 45 pages worth of it...

Let me help you with that.

1) Click 'Profile'.
2) Click 'Personal Options'
3) Scroll to 'How many messages do you want listed when you enter a topic?' and change it to 100.
4) Click 'Customize'.

Voila. Now you only have 14 pages to read! :Q

 

[MadRat]

Originally posted by: Kyteland

Originally posted by: Mday
kyteland, i am going to find out where you live, and beat you with to an inch of your life...

i have no idea how i am going to do that since life isnt measured in inches.

Well, if you have your heart set on it, I live in Chicago near California and Diversey. You can probably catch me as I walk to work in the morning.

I don't know why you hate me so.

Kyte, you really have no sense of humour.

 

[bubbasmith99]

lets turn this thread into a flame fest so this stupid thing gets locked

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: MadRat

Originally posted by: Kyteland

Originally posted by: Mday
kyteland, i am going to find out where you live, and beat you with to an inch of your life...

i have no idea how i am going to do that since life isnt measured in inches.

Well, if you have your heart set on it, I live in Chicago near California and Diversey. You can probably catch me as I walk to work in the morning.

I don't know why you hate me so.

Kyte, you really have no sense of humour.

Just because you don't get it, doesn't mean it isn't there.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

damn i never posted in this thread...but i felt compelled after seeing this for the 9999th time.....oops i mean 10000 time.....i thoguth the arguments were stupid and figures there's no point in arguing...in my book, whenever i see a 0.99999....it rounds to 1....that's how my brain interprets it...in a graph, 0.9999 approaches 1..BUT NEVER REACHES IT...but whocares, you just round it anyways.........

there...it is and it is not..end of discussion...LOCK!!!!

LOCKLOCKLOCK damn it

 

[crazygal]

That's it, I'm talking to a math professor asap...this is ridiculous.

Everyone who says that they're not equal, you don't give a mathematical reason why, just how you feel about it. Dan, just because your brain interprets it like that doesn't mean anything.

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
damn i never posted in this thread...but i felt compelled after seeing this for the 9999th time.....oops i mean 10000 time.....i thoguth the arguments were stupid and figures there's no point in arguing...in my book, whenever i see a 0.99999....it rounds to 1....that's how my brain interprets it...in a graph, 0.9999 approaches 1..BUT NEVER REACHES IT...but whocares, you just round it anyways.........

there...it is and it is not..end of discussion...LOCK!!!!

LOCKLOCKLOCK damn it

have you been read the same thread as i have

a NUMBER can not approach anything it is a fixed value

.9999...=1 .9999 is not a number not a sum not a limit

that is like saying .5 + .5 approaches 1 but never actually reaches of course it does because .5 + .5 EQUALS

plot y = .999... on the cartestian plane it should be a horizontal line

are you saying as x -> infinity it equals one?

that does not make sense since y = .9999... holds the same value of y whether X =0 x=-9.99 * 10 ^1000000 or X = 9999999999999999999999999999999999999

 

[TechnoKid]

In physics [highschool physics, not conceptual] i learned about significant figures. The more the significant figures, the more [exact, precise] that particular [figure, number] is.

I know this has something to do maybe here in this disscussion, but my calculus brain is not functioning after reading the first page of this thread.

 

[PCMarine]

This is a loooooong arse thread!

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: TechnoKid
In physics [highschool physics, not conceptual] i learned about significant figures. The more the significant figures, the more [exact, precise] that particular [figure, number] is.

I know this has something to do maybe here in this disscussion, but my calculus brain is not functioning after reading the first page of this thread.

That's with measurements. Also, has anyone read this whole fvcking thing? Are they really discussing this or is there a 20 page nef fest, cause im not about to read the thing to find out.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: UglyCassanova

Originally posted by: TechnoKid
In physics [highschool physics, not conceptual] i learned about significant figures. The more the significant figures, the more [exact, precise] that particular [figure, number] is.

I know this has something to do maybe here in this disscussion, but my calculus brain is not functioning after reading the first page of this thread.

That's with measurements. Also, has anyone read this whole fvcking thing? Are they really discussing this or is there a 20 page nef fest, cause im not about to read the thing to find out.

I've been following and posting in it the entire time. It's discussing, although it's the same arguments over and over.

 

[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: UglyCassanova

Originally posted by: TechnoKid
In physics [highschool physics, not conceptual] i learned about significant figures. The more the significant figures, the more [exact, precise] that particular [figure, number] is.

I know this has something to do maybe here in this disscussion, but my calculus brain is not functioning after reading the first page of this thread.

That's with measurements. Also, has anyone read this whole fvcking thing? Are they really discussing this or is there a 20 page nef fest, cause im not about to read the thing to find out.

I've been following and posting in it the entire time. It's discussing, although it's the same arguments over and over.

:music: "This is a thread that never ends.....it goes on and on my friends........some people started posting on it and and never gave a second thought just because its a ....... thread that never ends............lalala :music: