highland145
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So were they beaten into submission after 500+ posts or are they thinking it is what it looks like?
I'd think that Lois Lerner's computer giving up the ghost along with the email server and the backup server and the tape backups and the off site tape backups and the paper records would have been newsworthy in 2011, even moreso when it was followed by the exact same thing happening to 6 more computers and their servers and backups in December of that year.
I wonder why that wasn't disclosed, I'd imagine they'd want to secure the budget to improve their backends and make sure that their cpus weren't made by Lay's. Since their incident response policy is apparently setting a new benchmark for piss poor, it might be in the taxpayer's best interest to do a full audit of the IRS and pay particular attention to their IT infrastructure.
I wonder why that wasn't disclosed, I'd imagine they'd want to secure the budget to improve their backends and make sure that their cpus weren't made by Lay's. Since their incident response policy is apparently setting a new benchmark for piss poor, it might be in the taxpayer's best interest to do a full audit of the IRS and pay particular attention to their IT infrastructure.
No matter how much of a lefty you are, the "dog ate my homework"....errr... I mean, the emails were lost has to be tough to swallow. It's disgusting, it's too bad the media isn't holding the lefties / IRS feet to the fire on this.
If the NSA can't provide the full text of Lerner's emails, maybe they can provide the metadata?
The washington post is carrying water like a champ.
So apparently the excuse is bog standard incompetence coupled with non compliance with federal regulation and the most convenient series of computer crashes in human history. I'm so sure that wapo is working furiously to make sure that those responsible are taken to task that I'm not even going to bother looking.
I'll also leave this here, and this. Fun fact, Investigative case files are to be held for 5 years. That darn code of federal regulations always growing so that businesses have to perform cover-your-ass maneuvers also contains stuff that applies to the government itself. So, in the interest of justice let's let hammers start falling.
So apparently the excuse is bog standard incompetence coupled with non compliance with federal regulation and the most convenient series of computer crashes in human history. I'm so sure that wapo is working furiously to make sure that those responsible are taken to task that I'm not even going to bother looking.
I'll also leave this here, and this. Fun fact, Investigative case files are to be held for 5 years. That darn code of federal regulations always growing so that businesses have to perform cover-your-ass maneuvers also contains stuff that applies to the government itself. So, in the interest of justice let's let hammers start falling.
ivwshane
Lifer
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Nope just waiting for this to be a scandal that links Obama. Mean while we are enjoying you guys chomp at the latest bit of red meat thrown your way. I guess your masters figured you'd need a bone.
So what you're saying is that you're not the least bit offended that your intelligence is being insulted by excuses that are both extraordinarily unlikely and violations of the law?
Odd, I thought you were totally righteous when there were "issues" getting Karl Rove's emails. I guess partisans will be partisans.
ivwshane
Lifer
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It's an issue caused directly by congress by forcing an entity to do something it shouldn't be doing (ie judging whether an entities "primary" focus is political or not).
The "investigation" itself can be blown wide open by offering Lerner immunity (she offered to testify before without immunity but was denied), if there is wrong doing above and beyond the IRS then this should be the next logical step. It's not moving forward because it doesn't need to, you and your type dont need answers to get riled up and support your team so all the republicans have to do is drag this out because you lemmings will follow them.
It's funny that you talk about your intelligence being insulted and yet that's exactly what's been happening since this "scandal" started.
Let me know when something goes to court
OutHouse
Lifer
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Because you said something bad about the administration so you have to be a republican. Duh
ivwshane
Lifer
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I assumed you were part of the circle jerk like the others. If you aren't then good luck finding the truth, I hope you like the circus.
Why in the world would you offer Lerner immunity when it's becoming onsite l obvious she broke the law?It's an issue caused directly by congress by forcing an entity to do something it shouldn't be doing (ie judging whether an entities "primary" focus is political or not).
The "investigation" itself can be blown wide open by offering Lerner immunity (she offered to testify before without immunity but was denied), if there is wrong doing above and beyond the IRS then this should be the next logical step. It's not moving forward because it doesn't need to, you and your type dont need answers to get riled up and support your team so all the republicans have to do is drag this out because you lemmings will follow them.
It's funny that you talk about your intelligence being insulted and yet that's exactly what's been happening since this "scandal" started.
Let me know when something goes to court
OutHouse
Lifer
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ivwshane
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ivwshane
Lifer
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IRS needs to be cut by 4/5
Make tax 6%..done.
No fuel taxes..that comes out of the 6% too
Wake up people!
The Federal government is sucking up 20-30% of your income..durrr
The level of cow poo these people expect you to believe is ridiculous
Whatever happened to rail-riding?
Make tax 6%..done.
No fuel taxes..that comes out of the 6% too
Wake up people!
The Federal government is sucking up 20-30% of your income..durrr
The level of cow poo these people expect you to believe is ridiculous
Whatever happened to rail-riding?
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I doubt you'd be this calm and rational if this was a republican admin under suspicion of going after democrat groups. If the 'lost email' excuse occurred in that case the howl from the left would be deafening.and you know it; and you'd be screaming right along with them. I don't know if you're familiar with corporate information laws, but having emails go 'poof' like that is very bad. If a case against a company was under investigation and key emails turned up missing, it could be classified as espoilation (sp), something you really don't want to have happen to you. And yes, as a project manager, I had to take training on stuff like this. Key documentation going missing when it's supposed to fall within your records retention policy is skating very close to smoking gun. It seriously increases the burden on you to prove you didn't do anything wrong.
It's an issue caused directly by congress by forcing an entity to do something it shouldn't be doing (ie judging whether an entities "primary" focus is political or not).
The "investigation" itself can be blown wide open by offering Lerner immunity (she offered to testify before without immunity but was denied), if there is wrong doing above and beyond the IRS then this should be the next logical step. It's not moving forward because it doesn't need to, you and your type dont need answers to get riled up and support your team so all the republicans have to do is drag this out because you lemmings will follow them.
It's funny that you talk about your intelligence being insulted and yet that's exactly what's been happening since this "scandal" started.
Let me know when something goes to court
It happens all the time in serious & honest criminal investigations. It's not obvious that she broke the law, either, other than to True Believers like yourself.
Repubs never find the truth when conspiracy theory better serves their purposes. They're quite adept at perpetual political snipe hunts.
OutHouse
Lifer
- Jun 5, 2000
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sheep to who? republicans? lol.
i hate both parties dude and you're fanatical defence of the democrats is a prime example of why. blind political servitude like you subscribe to is dangerous and very comparable to Germany in the 1930's. :thumbsdown:
"Snipe hunt"? How many thousands of emails are missing at this point?
If this were GM, someone would be in jail by now.
xBiffx
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This keeps getting more and more curious. The fact that several people are willing to admit to being a party to several violations of federal laws regarding record keeping is telling. There is likely something to hide within some of these "lost" emails. And please don't tell me someone can't be thrown in jail for accidents or equipment failures. Even if the computer did die, there is still a requirement by law for certain standards of record keeping to be met (i.e. printouts and backups). Having only one copy of a record is well below that standard.
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