IRS Scandal explodes. "no evidence that would support a criminal prosecution."

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Republicans keep promising us explosions on all these different topics and all we get is spittle from them... At this point, one has to assume they're just trying to go with laws of probability. If they throw enough scandals out there surely one of them will EXPLODE!

To some extent it's ok to call for investigations, one just has to look at Nixxon for that, but on the other you should maintain some sensibility until you actually have something to talk about to keep people that aren't already beholden to anything you tell them from thinking you're a fool.

 

[Jhhnn]

A little update: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...tical-expenditures-by-unions/?intcmp=HPBucket

Fern

And what does it matter if Unions don't spend money on 501(c)4 supposedly public interest groups so as to conceal donor identity?

Unions aren't shy about putting their name on their money, generally doing so under their own banner or using 527 groups.

Requirements are entirely different for such groups requiring the filing of forms 8871 & 8872 under certain circumstances-

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i8872.pdf

Whether or not that applies to labor unions is unclear.

Obviously, it's not the same as for 501(c)4 organizations, the authors of the Fox article likely knowing that up front.

Can you say false equivalency? It's the Daily Squaller, after all.

 

[Jhhnn]

Still waiting for the IRS to respond to subpoenas etc.

Fern

Still waiting for Issa to do the obvious- force Lerner's testimony under a grant of immunity.

Probably when Hell freezes over.

 

[Bowfinger]

A little update: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...tical-expenditures-by-unions/?intcmp=HPBucket

Fern

Since Daily Caller did its usual inept job of pushing innuendo instead of fact, perhaps you can help. What is the effect of a union understating that specific expense line? Does it make their taxes lower, to NOT report that political expenditure, or to report it somewhere else on their return? What recourse does the IRS have in such cases? In other words, is there some financial incentive for unions to categorize such expenses incorrectly, and is there a tangible benefit for the IRS to pursue it?

Beyond that, I'll call out two key points that the rabid anti-IRS crowd seems to be missing. First, the story explains there are legitimate reasons for this information to be reported differently to the IRS vs. the Department of Labor. Second, while the story lead proclaims Lerner did nothing, if one actually reads the story he will learn that Lerner referred some cases for further investigation. I don't know the IRS' procedures, but that seems like a reasonable response.

 

[xBiffx]

Still waiting for this supposed Obama involvement.

So you're the one.

Here I thought the righties were guilty of waiting for this to lead to Obama.

Doesn't really matter if it does or doesn't. The IRS has been pretty well exposed here as incompetent. That's enough for me.

 

[bshole]

So you're the one.

Here I thought the righties were guilty of waiting for this to lead to Obama.

Doesn't really matter if it does or doesn't. The IRS has been pretty well exposed here as incompetent. That's enough for me.

You are in the minority then. The vast majority of right-wingers have engaged in this madness in an attempt to get at Obama. They have failed miserably.

 

[brycejones]

2005 posts in, still waiting for the explosion...or any support of the BS thread title.

 

[xBiffx]

You are in the minority then. The vast majority of right-wingers have engaged in this madness in an attempt to get at Obama. They have failed miserably.

Funny, the leftists think that, but there has been little to support it. Talk about nutter conspiracy theory. Guess its that epic projection again.

 

[Bowfinger]

Funny, the leftists think that, but there has been little to support it. Talk about nutter conspiracy theory. Guess its that epic projection again.

I think you're correct that within P&N, few people still cling to the Obama connection. If you read comments (and often the stories) on places like Daily Caller or Fox, however, you will find that conspiracy is still very much alive. As a group, those people bring a whole new level of bat s**t to the crazy. It's like a whole mob of frothing Boomerangs and Spideys.

Many of them even "know" this latest story about Lerner and unions leads back to Obama. Never mind it happened during the Bush administration. They are immune to facts and reason.

 

[xBiffx]

I think you're correct that within P&N, few people still cling to the Obama connection. If you read comments (and often the stories) on places like Daily Caller or Fox, however, you will find that conspiracy is still very much alive. As a group, those people bring a whole new level of bat s**t to the crazy. It's like a whole mob of frothing Boomerangs and Spideys.

Many of them even "know" this latest story about Lerner and unions leads back to Obama. Never mind it happened during the Bush administration. They are immune to facts and reason.

I've seen little mention of connections with Obama outside of some opinion piece designed for ratings. I think your using that supposition you claim others are guilty of using. Again, projecting.

 

[Matt1970]

You are in the minority then. The vast majority of right-wingers have engaged in this madness in an attempt to get at Obama. They have failed miserably.

Funny, the leftists think that, but there has been little to support it. Talk about nutter conspiracy theory. Guess its that epic projection again.

Any criticism of Obama is racism and any demands for all the info regarding the IRS fiasco is clearly an attempt to go after Obama.

 

[Bowfinger]

I've seen little mention of connections with Obama outside of some opinion piece designed for ratings. I think your using that supposition you claim others are guilty of using. Again, projecting.

Well, you've shown again and again you see only what you want to see. The legions of comments are out there in black and white if you're honest enough to read them, most recently in the "Lerner destroyed her Blackberry" non-story. Sorry if it hurts your feelings to be associated with such lunacy.

By the way, your new schtick of crying "projecting" every time someone disagrees with you just makes you look lame. Especially given your posting history.

 

[xBiffx]

Well, you've shown again and again you see only what you want to see. The legions of comments are out there in black and white if you're honest enough to read them, most recently in the "Lerner destroyed her Blackberry" non-story. Sorry if it hurts your feelings to be associated with such lunacy.

By the way, your new schtick of crying "projecting" every time someone disagrees with you just makes you look lame. Especially given your posting history.

You've failed to support your claim. How typical. Legions of random comments hardly make for righties believing that this leads to Obama. Really, a story about Lerner's Blackberry? But if that's your support for your claim, I can see why you're throwing a tantrum now.

Of course, your shtick of acting like a tool never gets old.

 

[Bowfinger]

You've failed to support your claim. How typical. Legions of random comments hardly make for righties believing that this leads to Obama. Really, a story about Lerner's Blackberry? But if that's your support for you claim, I can see why your throwing a tantrum now.

Of course, your shtick of acting like a tool never gets old.

Whatever you say, dear. I have no interest in wading through that drek again, especially since there is literally no amount of evidence I can produce that you won't dismiss as insufficient. In any case, I said "the conspiracy is ... alive," not that it represented all righties or even the majority of righties. I'm sure that's just another fact you will continue to ignore, of course. But feel free to continue to huff and puff and preen; we will continue to point and laugh.

 

[xBiffx]

Whatever you say, dear. I have no interest in wading through that drek again, especially since there is literally no amount of evidence I can produce that you won't dismiss as insufficient. In any case, I said "the conspiracy is ... alive," not that it represented all righties or even the majority of righties. I'm sure that's just another fact you will continue to ignore, of course. But feel free to continue to huff and puff and preen; we will continue to point and laugh.

The conspiracy is surely alive, you're right about that. Its who is guilty of it that you've got backwards.

 

[Jhhnn]

The conspiracy is surely alive, you're right about that. Its who is guilty of it that you've got backwards.

I do love it. Repubs have every line in the water & they've thrown every lure in the tackle box trying to catch something, anything other than the fish that threw itself in the boat the day Lerner testified.

Perhaps you should consider the idea that it's the only fish you're gonna catch here, no matter how had you try. Or is it a conspiracy of fishes?

I mean, the fish you caught is a really nice one. Is it not enough? Or is the whole point of this fishing expedition the expedition itself?

 

[ivwshane]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...cans-find-10-of-tea-party-donors-audi/?page=2

First it was that the IRS targeted Tea Party Groups. Now it came out that if you donated to the Tea Party groups you were 10x more likely to be audited.


Obama's admin keeps reaching new lows on government terrorism.

So you're the one.

Here I thought the righties were guilty of waiting for this to lead to Obama.

Doesn't really matter if it does or doesn't. The IRS has been pretty well exposed here as incompetent. That's enough for me.

Goal posts moved and justification for the BS witch hunt has been made! CBD in full effect!


http://nypost.com/2014/06/21/why-are-obama-and-the-irs-getting-away-with-a-blatant-coverup/

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/19/irs-lost-emails-from-official-that-met-with-top-obama-assistant/

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/i-have-the-smoking-gun-in-obamas-irs-scandal/

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...ing-The-IRS-To-Damage-His-Political-Opponents

http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2014/06/president_obamas_irs_scandal_i.html

http://mobile.wnd.com/2014/04/target-irs-scandal-pointing-to-obama/


You should have left me on ignore, now you have to bitch out again and run away with your tail between your legs.

It must suck being up there as one of the dumbest posters on P&N

 

[zinfamous]

man, this one is boring. I miss "Bengazi" because it had blood and treachery. :\

 

[bshole]

Any criticism of Obama is racism and any demands for all the info regarding the IRS fiasco is clearly an attempt to go after Obama.

I agree with you for once.

 

[xBiffx]

Goal posts moved and justification for the BS witch hunt has been made! CBD in full effect!


http://nypost.com/2014/06/21/why-are-obama-and-the-irs-getting-away-with-a-blatant-coverup/

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/19/irs-lost-emails-from-official-that-met-with-top-obama-assistant/

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/i-have-the-smoking-gun-in-obamas-irs-scandal/

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...ing-The-IRS-To-Damage-His-Political-Opponents

http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2014/06/president_obamas_irs_scandal_i.html

http://mobile.wnd.com/2014/04/target-irs-scandal-pointing-to-obama/


You should have left me on ignore, now you have to bitch out again and run away with your tail between your legs.

It must suck being up there as one of the dumbest posters on P&N

Come back when you've got more than opinion pieces designed for ratings. I already covered those. But you've failed to read, yet again.

ROFL @ your childish insults. That's all you've ever had.

 

[ivwshane]

Come back when you've got more than opinion pieces designed for ratings. I already covered those. But you've failed to read, yet again.

ROFL @ your childish insults. That's all you've ever had.

Lol! Your stupidity knows no bounds! Come back when there are more than opinion pieces? That's the point dipshit! All of it is opinion, based on zero facts! It's why the non retarded among us are still waiting for this scandal to blow up! It's why we are still waiting for Obama to be tied to this scandal!

And yes, lol at my childish insults, I am after all, talking to a child.

 

[xBiffx]

Lol! Your stupidity knows no bounds! Come back when there are more than opinion pieces? That's the point dipshit! All of it is opinion, based on zero facts! It's why the non retarded among us are still waiting for this scandal to blow up! It's why we are still waiting for Obama to be tied to this scandal!

And yes, lol at my childish insults, I am after all, talking to a child.

Yet its enough to paint an entire party or political side with conspiracy theory. Or somehow this is all about Obama. Guess you missed the whole point. Go back and read for a change.

More childish insults, how shocking. :whiste:

 

[ivwshane]

Yet its enough to paint an entire party or political side with conspiracy theory. Or somehow this is all about Obama. Guess you missed the whole point. Go back and read for a change.

More childish insults, how shocking. :whiste:

Keep digging your hole, turd:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...tors-argue-irs-targeting-influenced-by-obama/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NhXpy71IHl0

http://www.gop.com/act/rnc-files-lawsuit-against-irs

 

[Jhhnn]

Yet its enough to paint an entire party or political side with conspiracy theory. Or somehow this is all about Obama. Guess you missed the whole point. Go back and read for a change.

More childish insults, how shocking. :whiste:

Repub efforts in all of these contrived scandals aren't so much conspiracy as one guy telling a whale of a story & the rest swearing it's true, one story after another. They just take turns going first. It's not like they're trying to hide anything, other than the truth.

 

[xBiffx]

Keep digging your hole, turd:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...tors-argue-irs-targeting-influenced-by-obama/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NhXpy71IHl0

http://www.gop.com/act/rnc-files-lawsuit-against-irs

Yet another insult, good job.

Two of those links are about just calling it Obama's IRS which would be correct. No mention that this leads to Obama and he is directly involved, nor is that the purpose of the investigations.

The Foxnews link, which is an AP story, merely talks about how Obama's language has influenced the behavior at the IRS while making one claim about House Republicans. Calling it Obama's IRS however, would appear to be correct seeing as he is the president. Its not like he has come out and shunned the behavior at the IRS, nor has he toned down any rhetoric regarding Tea Party groups. Of course, none of that is direct. The story just talks about influence, well, no duh. It is funny, however, that the story makes the claim about House Republicans yet fails to back it up relying on mere innuendo. The same innuendo that the left is relying on here.

However, none of those show a direct Obama involvement. Of course Obama's name is going to be all over it. He's the president and therefore its his IRS as this point in time. There's no surprise there considering its part of the executive branch. This is yet again, just some of the left's attempt to cast republican's in a bad light because those on the left want to make it look like the right is out to find the boogeyman so that they can question the whole investigation and label it an Obama witch hunt, which isn't the case. It's a sad example of politics today. What's more sad is some of the left's never ending defense of the IRS, especially in this case. It's really going to be curious to see what happens when the shoe is on the other foot and a bunch of people from the right are running the IRS if a precedent is allowed to be set regarding political behavior at the IRS.

I mean, do you even read what you post? Do you even know what your argument is at this point?