IRS prioritized bonuses, union activity over helping taxpayers

[rudeguy]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...onuses-union-activity-over-helping-412601281/

The panel found the IRS had cut customer services while continuing to hand out bonuses to employees, allowing staff to conduct union activities, failing to collect debt owed by employees of the federal government and spending over $1.2 billion on implementing ObamaCare.


“In January 2015, the IRS commissioner estimated that taxpayer service would decline while delays in tax refunds would increase. While the IRS commissioner has blamed this solely on budget cuts, in reality the IRS deliberately diverted resources away from taxpayer services,

Gut the whole agency. Gut it now.

 

[IronWing]

Gut the whole agency. Gut it now.

Welcome back!

Your utter lack of logic is what makes your P&N posts so endearing.

 

[brycejones]

Welcome back!

Your utter lack of logic is what makes your P&N posts so endearing.

It is cute isn't it.

 

[sunzt]

what are "union activities"? How did that affect anything?

 

[finglobes]

Most of the left knows Obama and the IRS are abusive. They just don't care. No check that - they like it. The left is very two-faced when it comes to abuse and tyranny. The love to carry on about freedom etc but they are always the only people constantly trying to stifle speech and opinions counter to theirs. Look how they pull their hair out over foreign donations yet rake them in like crazy (See Hillary and Obama). Watch how Apple head cries about Indianna but rush to do biz in Iran. If Bush had used IRS vs citzens the media would have gone nuclear. Yet with Obama they conceal and excuse. They are becoming a wicked lot.

 

[fskimospy]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...onuses-union-activity-over-helping-412601281/

Gut the whole agency. Gut it now.

Dude, it's a partisan report put out by the Republicans and it doesn't even make internal sense.

I think my favorite part is them complaining that the IRS spent money implementing the ACA, something it is required by law to do.

Why on earth would you be duped by these people yet again?

 

[rudeguy]

Dude, it's a partisan report put out by the Republicans and it doesn't even make internal sense.

I think my favorite part is them complaining that the IRS spent money implementing the ACA, something it is required by law to do.

Why on earth would you be duped by these people yet again?

just ignore the whole rest of the report like a good shill

 

[fskimospy]

just ignore the whole rest of the report like a good shill

Glad that you agree that part of the report was stupid.

Now tell us what parts of the partisan report you would like to focus on? Let's discuss!

Alternatively, you could also admit you were duped yet again.

 

[rudeguy]

Glad that you agree that part of the report was stupid.

Now tell us what parts of the partisan report you would like to focus on? Let's discuss!

Alternatively, you could also admit you were duped yet again.

The panel found the IRS had cut customer services while continuing to hand out bonuses to employees, allowing staff to conduct union activities, failing to collect debt owed by employees of the federal government

 

[fskimospy]

The panel found the IRS had cut customer services while continuing to hand out bonuses to employees, allowing staff to conduct union activities, failing to collect debt owed by employees of the federal government

What is your basis for the fact that the IRS should discontinue bonuses or allow others to conduct union activities which is likely in their contract?

Can you tell us why you think a partisan report from a house committee that you already know to contain at least one absurd claim (the ACA claim) would be a good source?

 

[cabri]

IRS can garnish wages from a civilian without court order for taxes that they claim is due without due process.

Yet they do not collect from their own employees. Why?
Union activities are supposed to be done on personal time; not government time

 

[fskimospy]

IRS can garnish wages from a civilian without court order for taxes that they claim is due without due process.

Yet they do not collect from their own employees. Why?
Union activities are supposed to be done on personal time; not government time

Union activities are supposed to be done in accordance with their collective bargaining agreement. Seems like we would need to look at that, no?

 

[rudeguy]

Union activities are supposed to be done in accordance with their collective bargaining agreement. Seems like we would need to look at that, no?

so just to be sure:

Union activities (my guess is paid for food and beverages, most likely paid for venue) is more important than doing their jobs? So are bonuses?

Remember, they had "devastating" budgets cuts that caused over 5 million calls to go unanswered.

 

[fskimospy]

so just to be sure:

Union activities (my guess is paid for food and beverages, most likely paid for venue) is more important than doing their jobs? So are bonuses?

Remember, they had "devastating" budgets cuts that caused over 5 million calls to go unanswered.

My guess is neither of those things were paid for by the government, but you would have to look and see instead of just baselessly speculating, wouldn't you?

Who got these bonuses and why? Are they doing it to retain high quality people? If so, you definitely shouldn't cut back the bonuses. It all depends on actually attempting to understand the situation instead of relying on the report of some partisan legislators.

You didn't answer the question though, now that you're aware of at least one laughable accusation in this report, why do you continue to take the rest at face value? Doesn't that seem foolish? Do you think you would take a similar report from a Democratic committee at face value? If not, why the difference?

 

[Strk]

I'm thinking people need to worry less about the IRS and more about the people making up the taxes.

Boehner, Pelosi et al are your problems, not the IRS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn_Zln_4pA8 You can complain about the source being liberal, but he's pretty accurate.

 

[hal2kilo]

It's really simple reptillian logic for Republicans. They hate taxes. Thus the enemy is not the congress who makes the tax laws who are at fault, but the evil IRS tasked by laws created by congress to collect the taxes they hate.

 

[Bowfinger]

What is your basis for the fact that the IRS should discontinue bonuses or allow others to conduct union activities which is likely in their contract?

Can you tell us why you think a partisan report from a house committee that you already know to contain at least one absurd claim (the ACA claim) would be a good source?

I'd add that not only is the report partisan, but the authors were involved in chopping the IRS budget. They have a vested interest in deflecting blame for the negative consequences. It's like the boys who broke a window writing a report claiming the glass was defective. Their families might swallow such a lame story, but everybody else would roll their eyes.

 

[JSt0rm]

Since taking power the republicans have cut the irs budget by like 2 billion. John Oliver just had a segment on this.

 

[rudeguy]

My guess is neither of those things were paid for by the government, but you would have to look and see instead of just baselessly speculating, wouldn't you?

Who got these bonuses and why? Are they doing it to retain high quality people? If so, you definitely shouldn't cut back the bonuses. It all depends on actually attempting to understand the situation instead of relying on the report of some partisan legislators.

You didn't answer the question though, now that you're aware of at least one laughable accusation in this report, why do you continue to take the rest at face value? Doesn't that seem foolish? Do you think you would take a similar report from a Democratic committee at face value? If not, why the difference?

You mean like the report we are referencing?

Your shill is preventing you from reading again. You may want to get that checked out.

 

[fskimospy]

You mean like the report we are referencing?

Your shill is preventing you from reading again. You may want to get that checked out.

By all means quote the passage from the report then. Also, I don't think you're using the word 'shill' correctly, haha.

Remember how you complain that people won't answer a simple question? Why are you doing that now? Here, I'll make them even clearer and simpler:

1. Why do you continue to trust a report that has an outrageous claim in it?
2. Would you uncritically accept a report like this from a Democratic committee?

 

[HomerJS]

The panel found the IRS had cut customer services while continuing to hand out bonuses to employees, allowing staff to conduct union activities, failing to collect debt owed by employees of the federal government

Only you can attempt to dump out a bunch of non related activities and attempt to link them together into one long rambling non-sequitur.

 

[rudeguy]

By all means quote the passage from the report then. Also, I don't think you're using the word 'shill' correctly, haha.

Remember how you complain that people won't answer a simple question? Why are you doing that now? Here, I'll make them even clearer and simpler:

1. Why do you continue to trust a report that has an outrageous claim in it?
2. Would you uncritically accept a report like this from a Democratic committee?

You are the one who trusts reports. You seek and quote them all the time. Now you don't believe this one because it makes you feel bad.

And I am using the word shill perfectly. You fail at many things in life but you excel at being a shill.

 

[fskimospy]

You are the one who trusts reports. You seek and quote them all the time. Now you don't believe this one because it makes you feel bad.

So you're saying you don't trust the report then? I asked you a very simple question.

And I am using the word shill perfectly. You fail at many things in life but you excel at being a shill.

You're using it correctly now, but in the previous post you weren't. If you're going to fling ineffective insults at me you can at least do it right.

 

[rudeguy]

So you're saying you don't trust the report then? I asked you a very simple question.



You're using it correctly now, but in the previous post you weren't. If you're going to fling ineffective insults at me you can at least do it right.

I trust the report. If you would like to dispute it, please do. But don't call it a potato just because you don't like it. If you have facts, bring them. Otherwise keep rambling.

 

[cabri]

Union activities are supposed to be done in accordance with their collective bargaining agreement. Seems like we would need to look at that, no?

A person is getting paid by the taxpayer to work at their government job
The union activities can be done on their own time.