Irritation - Liberal Google Hounds

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: BBond
I used to argue with whatever you want to call these people who refer to themselves as conservatives today -- corrupt conservatives -- predatory capatilists -- whatever. They always demanded links and proof and such. So I started posting the links before they asked. It didn't matter. They simply ignore the facts presented. As a matter of fact, I've had several of them admit to me they don't read the information put right in front of their noses anyway.

Now they're starting threads about liberals cutting and pasting instead of debating. How can you debate anything when you ignore the facts?

This has nothing to do with Googling liberals. IMO, you people just hate to see your fantasies refuted in print.

Exactly. Well said.

By the way, irwincur has been one of the worst offenders when it comes to simply making up "facts" to support one's argument. Many others will distort the truth, twist the meaning of words, cherry-pick information to try to bolster their arguments, but irwincur just pulls stuff out of his ass. I've challenged him on this many times, providing links clearly demonstrating his errors; he has yet to respond.

I suppose that might explain why he hates articles and facts.

 

[Gaard]

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=52&threadid=1347584&arctab=arc&highlight_key=y">This post is a very good example of the actions of a good portion of the right-leaning members. First they post incorrect facts. It is pointed out to them that their facts are indeed incorrect. They get all pissy and talk sh!t to whomever dares to counter their 'facts'. When they are given links to show that, yes indeed they were wrong all along, they high-tail it out of here.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why the rest of the right members put up with them.</a>

 

[Jhhnn]

Interesting, in a tragicomic sort of way. On one hand, libs are widely criticized by the right for being fractured and lacking a coherent plan of attack, while repubs pat themselves on the back for being disciplined and adhering to the party line... Now, per inwincur, libs don't have any original ideas...

There was a time when I read rightwing news sources, just to get their slant, see what their thinktanks had dreamed up as a way to represent their current scheme as somehow beneficial... Now, I don't have to- inwincur, jmadyson, CsG, Rip or a few others will automagically cut and paste the entire article right here, shout Hooray!, add nothing of substance, and tell me I don't have any original ideas...

 

[Gaard]

If you wonder so much, why not click on that thing at the bottom that says Link

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: BBond
I used to argue with whatever you want to call these people who refer to themselves as conservatives today -- corrupt conservatives -- predatory capatilists -- whatever. They always demanded links and proof and such. So I started posting the links before they asked. It didn't matter. They simply ignore the facts presented. As a matter of fact, I've had several of them admit to me they don't read the information put right in front of their noses anyway.

Now they're starting threads about liberals cutting and pasting instead of debating. How can you debate anything when you ignore the facts?

This has nothing to do with Googling liberals. IMO, you people just hate to see your fantasies refuted in print.

Exactly. Well said.

By the way, irwincur has been one of the worst offenders when it comes to simply making up "facts" to support one's argument. Many others will distort the truth, twist the meaning of words, cherry-pick information to try to bolster their arguments, but irwincur just pulls stuff out of his ass. I've challenged him on this many times, providing links clearly demonstrating his errors; he has yet to respond.

I suppose that might explain why he hates articles and facts.

The conservative thinkers, don't understand the facts, distort truth, cherry pick and on and on and on. You know I get up everyday I think to myslef what does this party stand for? What wonderous idea will this party present to help better this nation and world? Yet, each day it's the same old rhetoric. As the party continues to go further left it has transformed itself into an elite faction as described by Madison. The most amazing thing about this is that the party is blinded and continues to pursue the same old song and dance that has dwindled their numbers in the federal system. Dean at the helm is just another day at the zoo. I honestly have to say I'm not worried about the mid-year elections nor 2008. Are you happy with the party? This is where it is going. No candy coating needed here.

 

[PatboyX]

not so much. both sides do it. i mean, lets not act like only the liberals here are repeating talking points.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Gaard
If you wonder so much, why not click on that thing at the bottom that says Link

Bwahaha...oh, repost!

Strangely enough, not only is your post a repost, but so is the OP post. Increasingly strange, the OPs repost is very much the same whine the OP made months ago. Conclusion: the OP needs to stop his incessant whining.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: irwincur
Just waiting for someone to drum up a few negative editorials and articles about me.

Are you well known enough for anyone to care?

That wouldn't be a personal attack would it?

No it isn't. Now this is a personal attack

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

You truly are an asshole.. elite member my ass.. you are a worthless human being. To even make the comparison being a Nazi symbol and our President is so far over the edge. But, nothing will happen to you like usual.

You are a real piece of work. :roll:

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's pretty basic. Someone posts things, and others comment on them. I couldn't do what Conjur does, because that's not my style. I don't see why there is an issue here.

Maybe the reason that people like to attack the liberals who link is because there is not much that backs up their own claims. SS is typical. I believe the SS debate is in part a red herring to divert us from attention on Iraq. Hell, Bin Laden wasnt mentioned in the SoTU address. He CAUSED 9/11, and he isn't even on the radar any more. Where the heck Bush came up with the 2042 claim is anyone's guess.

Maybe it's like Rush. He says little to back up his points, but he does a lot to attack the other side.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: irwincur
Is it just me, or does it both anyone else here that most of the liberals never make a single original argument. All they do is cut and paste article after article from known liberal activists, and then act like they are the end all and be all.

What a joke. Were is the real debate? I would rather argue someone and their original ideas than a pack or people who have no innate ability to argue, but rather act as the librarians of the liberal alleys of the Internet. I just read through an entire Social Security debate and there was not a single original liberal argument. Sorry, but debate is a lot more than comparing sources and acting like they speak for you. Their arguments usually exist in the form of one line attacks, or the words of partisan editorials.

OK, I am done. Just hoping that some people on the other side learn the fine art of real debate.

But you think Riprorin is full of original thought?

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: BBond
I used to argue with whatever you want to call these people who refer to themselves as conservatives today -- corrupt conservatives -- predatory capatilists -- whatever. They always demanded links and proof and such. So I started posting the links before they asked. It didn't matter. They simply ignore the facts presented. As a matter of fact, I've had several of them admit to me they don't read the information put right in front of their noses anyway.

Now they're starting threads about liberals cutting and pasting instead of debating. How can you debate anything when you ignore the facts?

This has nothing to do with Googling liberals. IMO, you people just hate to see your fantasies refuted in print.

Exactly. Well said.

By the way, irwincur has been one of the worst offenders when it comes to simply making up "facts" to support one's argument. Many others will distort the truth, twist the meaning of words, cherry-pick information to try to bolster their arguments, but irwincur just pulls stuff out of his ass. I've challenged him on this many times, providing links clearly demonstrating his errors; he has yet to respond.

I suppose that might explain why he hates articles and facts.

Indeed. He is nototrious for coming up with random remarks which he seems to believe is fact. Then he has the nerve to complain to people who at least say things that are supported by evidence on the web? Sad...

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: irwincur
Just waiting for someone to drum up a few negative editorials and articles about me.

Are you well known enough for anyone to care?

That wouldn't be a personal attack would it?

No it isn't. Now this is a personal attack

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

You truly are an asshole.. elite member my ass.. you are a worthless human being. To even make the comparison being a Nazi symbol and our President is so far over the edge. But, nothing will happen to you like usual.

You are a real piece of work. :roll:

Hey, sorry for the 1930's reference. I was biatch slapped in case certain members were wondering.

I am the only one that was shocked by the child's head painted like that, apparently it is normal now. My bad.

Is it only children or will adults have this requirement too?

I thought red would be the color of the letter, but it was blue.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: irwincur
Is it just me, or does it both anyone else here that most of the liberals never make a single original argument. All they do is cut and paste article after article from known liberal activists, and then act like they are the end all and be all.

What a joke. Were is the real debate? I would rather argue someone and their original ideas than a pack or people who have no innate ability to argue, but rather act as the librarians of the liberal alleys of the Internet. I just read through an entire Social Security debate and there was not a single original liberal argument. Sorry, but debate is a lot more than comparing sources and acting like they speak for you. Their arguments usually exist in the form of one line attacks, or the words of partisan editorials.

OK, I am done. Just hoping that some people on the other side learn the fine art of real debate.

Yep! They start with a false precept that isn't reality based and then research to prove it. Thankfully for them, a lot of writers are liberals too.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Stunt
Most good arguements require: evidence, theorizing from proffessionals, and current events.
If you do not have these, you are just spouting off jibberish...goes for both sides.

History doesn't count?

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
the only tool the neocons wants the left to have to write with is the rock on our prison cell floor.

Couldn't give you a rock. You could harm yourself. The liberals I worked with in the Department were dangerous with a screwdriver. They had chauffers to drive their cars and needed chauffers to drive their desktop PC's as well. They could do OK with a keyboard as long as there was only one key. Have you seen the lib commercial from Staples? Only one key required - the Easy button!

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: werk
Yes, as we all know we have never seen a conservative poster continually post articles regarding abortion, condoms, planned parenthood, homosexuality, liberalism, the UN, or Clinton that he or she dug up from conservative "news" sites with no commentary (except for a trolling question at the end, perhaps). :roll:

Clinton stunk, admit it!

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: irwincur
Just waiting for someone to drum up a few negative editorials and articles about me.

Are you well known enough for anyone to care?

As he poses in his very best kiss up position.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: BBond
I used to argue with whatever you want to call these people who refer to themselves as conservatives today -- corrupt conservatives -- predatory capatilists -- whatever. They always demanded links and proof and such. So I started posting the links before they asked. It didn't matter. They simply ignore the facts presented. As a matter of fact, I've had several of them admit to me they don't read the information put right in front of their noses anyway.

Now they're starting threads about liberals cutting and pasting instead of debating. How can you debate anything when you ignore the facts?

This has nothing to do with Googling liberals. IMO, you people just hate to see your fantasies refuted in print.

How about histetic liberals - the godless religion!

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Gaard
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=52&threadid=1347584&arctab=arc&highlight_key=y">This post is a very good example of the actions of a good portion of the right-leaning members. First they post incorrect facts. It is pointed out to them that their facts are indeed incorrect. They get all pissy and talk sh!t to whomever dares to counter their 'facts'. When they are given links to show that, yes indeed they were wrong all along, they high-tail it out of here.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why the rest of the right members put up with them.</a>

Most conservatives do fail in one way. Does the idiom "Doesn't suffer fools lightly" ring any memory bells?

 

[irwincur]

Indeed. He is nototrious for coming up with random remarks which he seems to believe is fact. Then he has the nerve to complain to people who at least say things that are supported by evidence on the web? Sad...

Evidence does not consist of cherry picked editorials with titles that match your arguments. If anyone ever presented factual, and unbiased evidence, I would give them credit. I debated for years, and I know that there is a place for evidence. There is also a huge temptation to post bad evidence because it simply supports your argument. For example a NYT column is not an unbiased source. On the flip side, the National Reivew is not an unbiased source. Actually, every source has bias, as such, most are entirely worthless. Sadly the web makes it easier to find these, and those without regard to true context make fools of themselves by spewing this crap in arguments.

Don't miss the point, debate is more about original thought than cited evidence. It always has been.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: irwincur

Indeed. He is nototrious for coming up with random remarks which he seems to believe is fact. Then he has the nerve to complain to people who at least say things that are supported by evidence on the web? Sad...

Evidence does not consist of cherry picked editorials with titles that match your arguments. If anyone ever presented factual, and unbiased evidence, I would give them credit. I debated for years, and I know that there is a place for evidence. There is also a huge temptation to post bad evidence because it simply supports your argument. For example a NYT column is not an unbiased source. On the flip side, the National Reivew is not an unbiased source. Actually, every source has bias, as such, most are entirely worthless. Sadly the web makes it easier to find these, and those without regard to true context make fools of themselves by spewing this crap in arguments.

Don't miss the point, debate is more about original thought than cited evidence. It always has been.

I get the feeling that you're not interested in right or wrong, fact or fiction....you're just interested in the debate. Is that right? You don't care if what you say is factual or not, as long as you get to debate someone. Is that right?

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: irwincur
Is it just me, or does it both anyone else here that most of the liberals never make a single original argument. All they do is cut and paste article after article from known liberal activists, and then act like they are the end all and be all.

When you mentioned that, the first person that came to mind wasn't a liberal. He is the true king of 'copy and paste' but I shall not utter his name.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: TuxDave
I shall not utter his name.

Moses

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: TuxDave
I shall not utter his name.

Moses

:laugh: