Iron Man question

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: EvilYoda

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah I definitely wasn't trying to take the movie too seriously but I always wondered about that with the bad guy in superhero movies. Ok so you stole 2 million dollars, now what, yo'ure fucking mutant/monster/robot that just tore up manhattan

that's why Batman and Spiderman have sequels, this won't.

Foot -> mouth.

guess so... too late to correct now.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Just heard an interesting blurb on the radio. Apparently the director didn't want Downey as Tony Stark, originally. Downey really wanted the part and kept lobbying for it though, and was ready to go so far as a screen test for it. Now the director says he can't imagine anyone else pulling the part off as well as Downey did, and they are already kicking around ideas for opening sequences for the sequel which starts shooting in nine months or so, as I said in my other post.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Just heard an interesting blurb on the radio. Apparently the director didn't want Downey as Tony Stark, originally. Downey really wanted the part and kept lobbying for it though, and was ready to go so far as a screen test for it. Now the director says he can't imagine anyone else pulling the part off as well as Downey did, and they are already kicking around ideas for opening sequences for the sequel which starts shooting in nine months or so, as I said in my other post.

Yeah I thought the Downey cast was spot on.

 

[sygyzy]

The director, in case anyone didn't know, is Jon Favreau and he makes many appearances in the movie as one of Stark's drivers.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Seems like they should have just used the terrorists as the final foe Iron Man defeats and keep Jeff Bridges' true motives hidden from Tony Stark.

anyways, thats my 2cents

Eh, this sticks closer to the comic. Stane went off the deep end and tried to kill Stark. Anyways, if Stane killed him he could just make the suit disappear. Who was going to believe that there's a huge lumbering mech on the loose?

In the comics, Stane buys out Stark International with the help of S.H.I.E.L.D. Also, Stane commits suicide after Stark defeats his Iron Monger suit.

 

[Glayde]

Looking back at some pre-movie hype, there was a rumor that Hillary Swank was going to have a Cameo, which some people say now didn't happen.


I had no idea she was rumored etc to be in the movie (I only knew downey jr was playing someone) but I could have swore that was her in the casino blowing the die at the craps table?

actually it wasn't swank

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680105/ (looks like her somewhat though)

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Here you go.

Fuck, I was wondering why Nick Fury didn't show up once I figured out who S.H.I.E.L.D. was.

??? Nick Fury is white, right?


Its like making a Shaft movie with a white guy.



Oh I see now, its the "new" nick fury

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Nick_Fury

 

[Skel]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
He was trying to take over the company. He failed when Pepper stole the files. If she hadn't taken them, he would most likely have been able to take over the company.

On a side note, why didnt the house computer warn stark that he was even IN the house to begin with.

And why didn't he make a backup reactor?

I just assumed that Stane came and went out of the house all the time, unless Stark had reprogramed the house to warn him, why would it?

Why make a backup when you've moved on and are now obsessing over the suit? Not like there was any reason to think someone would rip it out of his chest....

 

[Skel]

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Seems like they should have just used the terrorists as the final foe Iron Man defeats and keep Jeff Bridges' true motives hidden from Tony Stark.

anyways, thats my 2cents

Eh, this sticks closer to the comic. Stane went off the deep end and tried to kill Stark. Anyways, if Stane killed him he could just make the suit disappear. Who was going to believe that there's a huge lumbering mech on the loose?

In the comics, Stane buys out Stark International with the help of S.H.I.E.L.D. Also, Stane commits suicide after Stark defeats his Iron Monger suit.

Don't remember SHIELD helping Stane, I do remember Stark being too busy drinking himself to death to notice that someone was doing a hostal takeover.

 

[uhohs]

we need hasselhoff fury. 🙁

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
I wasn't sure what the bad guy (Jeff Bridges) was suppose to accomplish in the end there. Did he just go crazy? I mean, ok let's say he defeats Iron Man, in the end he can't stay in the suit forever and just blow things up. What's the exit strategy from that? After he gets out of the suit to sleep/poop/etc they're just going to arrest him. Stark Industries would be seized and that would be the end of that.

Seems like they should have just used the terrorists as the final foe Iron Man defeats and keep Jeff Bridges' true motives hidden from Tony Stark.

anyways, thats my 2cents

Well, he had basically been caught at that point. Agents were coming to arrest him for trying to murder Stark and selling weapons to terrorists under the table. He was basically going the "World's Scariest Police Chases" route and was going to make a run for it and exact some revenge at the same time.

Stark just showed up in time to stop him.

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Who cares about the bad guy, why didn't stark do a proper moment balance before he tested his new suit for the first time.

Yeah. I was thinking why the heck did he just try and turn it on with so much power rather than just ratcheting it up. A freshman engineer could look at the theoretical thrust of a engine and the weight of the vehicle (or person wearing a powered suit) and figure out if he's going to go flying off and hit something at dangerous speed.

If thrust > weight you will accelerate. If thrust >> weight you apparently will spin out of control, smash into a wall and then get sprayed by a robot with a fire extinguisher.

Well, in his excitement he may have forgotten to take into account the fact that he was wearing boots only, versus thrust when wearing the weight of the entire suit. 😉

Possible, though the way he accelerated the suit would have to weigh a huge amount for thrust = weight at that thrust level.

I do like how they included the control surfaces, though the CFD analysis on that must have been a beast to do. 😉

the only thing that matters is the great lawls that was achieved through that.

 

[Kyteland]

I want to know how Stane got his hands on that nifty little tool that took the reactor thing our of Stark's chest. Stark had only showed it to him once (briefly) and had refused to upload the specs to the company mainframe. And then after he got his hands on it, his suit was able to use it perfectly. It just plugged right in and was good to go.

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: Kyteland
I want to know how Stane got his hands on that nifty little tool that took the reactor thing our of Stark's chest. Stark had only showed it to him once (briefly) and had refused to upload the specs to the company mainframe. And then after he got his hands on it, his suit was able to use it perfectly. It just plugged right in and was good to go.

cause Stark left the plan behind at the terrorist place, they were able to figure out how to read them, so he knew what kind of connector it used and whatnot...

 

[Agentbolt]

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Who cares about the bad guy, why didn't stark do a proper moment balance before he tested his new suit for the first time.

Yeah. I was thinking why the heck did he just try and turn it on with so much power rather than just ratcheting it up. A freshman engineer could look at the theoretical thrust of a engine and the weight of the vehicle (or person wearing a powered suit) and figure out if he's going to go flying off and hit something at dangerous speed.

If thrust > weight you will accelerate. If thrust >> weight you apparently will spin out of control, smash into a wall and then get sprayed by a robot with a fire extinguisher.

Seriously? Dude it's an ironman movie. The same logic applies to it as applies to Transformers (forget who said this originally):

If you're watching it and find yourself pointing out some minor plot hole or technical inaccuracy, just ask yourself this question: Did it happen before, or after, GIANT FLYING ROBOTS STARTED KICKING THE SHIT OUT OF EACH OTHER.

Because if you can get past that conceit and not the others, you're kind of missing the point.

 

[Illusio]

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah I definitely wasn't trying to take the movie too seriously but I always wondered about that with the bad guy in superhero movies. Ok so you stole 2 million dollars, now what, yo'ure fucking mutant/monster/robot that just tore up manhattan

that's why Batman and Spiderman have sequels, this won't.

I think there will be a sequel. In addition to the nick fury thing, which was already mentioned, if you'll recall when Rhodes was in stark's lab and sall the silver iron man suit, he said something like "next time, baby". Which IIRC, Rhodes wears the War Machine suit in the comics. Perfect setup for having War Machine in a sequel.

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: Gothgar

Originally posted by: Kyteland
I want to know how Stane got his hands on that nifty little tool that took the reactor thing our of Stark's chest. Stark had only showed it to him once (briefly) and had refused to upload the specs to the company mainframe. And then after he got his hands on it, his suit was able to use it perfectly. It just plugged right in and was good to go.

cause Stark left the plan behind at the terrorist place, they were able to figure out how to read them, so he knew what kind of connector it used and whatnot...

I thought they only had the plan for the suit. If they had the plan for the reactor, why couldn't their scientists reproduce it?

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Dark Jedi

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah I definitely wasn't trying to take the movie too seriously but I always wondered about that with the bad guy in superhero movies. Ok so you stole 2 million dollars, now what, yo'ure fucking mutant/monster/robot that just tore up manhattan

that's why Batman and Spiderman have sequels, this won't.

I think there will be a sequel. In addition to the nick fury thing, which was already mentioned, if you'll recall when Rhodes was in stark's lab and sall the silver iron man suit, he said something like "next time, baby". Which IIRC, Rhodes wears the War Machine suit in the comics. Perfect setup for having War Machine in a sequel.

There will be sequels

Marvel Studios announced Monday it will release "Iron Man 2" on April 30, 2010, following the success of the first in the comic-book franchise, which pulled in $104.2 million domestically since opening last Thursday and $201 million worldwide.

Most of the cast is signed to do multiple movies.

 

[Nyati13]

Originally posted by: Kyteland

Originally posted by: Gothgar

Originally posted by: Kyteland
I want to know how Stane got his hands on that nifty little tool that took the reactor thing our of Stark's chest. Stark had only showed it to him once (briefly) and had refused to upload the specs to the company mainframe. And then after he got his hands on it, his suit was able to use it perfectly. It just plugged right in and was good to go.

cause Stark left the plan behind at the terrorist place, they were able to figure out how to read them, so he knew what kind of connector it used and whatnot...

I thought they only had the plan for the suit. If they had the plan for the reactor, why couldn't their scientists reproduce it?

The plan for the suit would include the plug/interface specs, and the power specs.... and not include any detail of how the reactor was made.... having one does not require knowledge of the other.

 

[drinkmorejava]

Originally posted by: Agentbolt

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Who cares about the bad guy, why didn't stark do a proper moment balance before he tested his new suit for the first time.

Yeah. I was thinking why the heck did he just try and turn it on with so much power rather than just ratcheting it up. A freshman engineer could look at the theoretical thrust of a engine and the weight of the vehicle (or person wearing a powered suit) and figure out if he's going to go flying off and hit something at dangerous speed.

If thrust > weight you will accelerate. If thrust >> weight you apparently will spin out of control, smash into a wall and then get sprayed by a robot with a fire extinguisher.

Seriously? Dude it's an ironman movie. The same logic applies to it as applies to Transformers (forget who said this originally):

If you're watching it and find yourself pointing out some minor plot hole or technical inaccuracy, just ask yourself this question: Did it happen before, or after, GIANT FLYING ROBOTS STARTED KICKING THE SHIT OUT OF EACH OTHER.

Because if you can get past that conceit and not the others, you're kind of missing the point.

Hmm, it was supposed to be a joke. I suppose I can blame Bignate603 for ruining it?

 

[Dessert Tears]

Originally posted by: Kyteland
And then after he got his hands on it, his suit was able to use it perfectly. It just plugged right in and was good to go.

Other posters have pointed out plausible reasons why the Iron Monger would be compatible.

I was struck by how neatly the reactor fit into the socket. What if the scientists had been able to miniaturize the reactor, but only down to the size of a basketball or a softball?