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Iron Man question

Mo0o

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I wasn't sure what the bad guy (Jeff Bridges) was suppose to accomplish in the end there. Did he just go crazy? I mean, ok let's say he defeats Iron Man, in the end he can't stay in the suit forever and just blow things up. What's the exit strategy from that? After he gets out of the suit to sleep/poop/etc they're just going to arrest him. Stark Industries would be seized and that would be the end of that.

Seems like they should have just used the terrorists as the final foe Iron Man defeats and keep Jeff Bridges' true motives hidden from Tony Stark.

anyways, thats my 2cents
 
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He was trying to take over the company. He failed when Pepper stole the files. If she hadn't taken them, he would most likely have been able to take over the company.

On a side note, why didnt the house computer warn stark that he was even IN the house to begin with.

And why didn't he make a backup reactor?
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
He was trying to take over the company. He failed when Pepper stole the files. If she hadn't taken them, he would most likely have been able to take over the company.

Hmm... so he had no plans other than to take revenge on Stark?
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
What's the exit strategy from that?

Shouldn't take a movie so seriously Mo0o, I don't think I would expect a deeper plot from this movie. I mean, come on, those Terrorists can't tell he was building a armor suit from a missile.


Seems like they should have just used the terrorists as the final foe Iron Man defeats and keep Jeff Bridges' true motives hidden from Tony Stark.

yup, that's what I was thinking too..
 

Mo0o

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Jul 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: Mo0o
What's the exit strategy from that?

Shouldn't take a movie so seriously Mo0o, I don't think I would expect a deeper plot from this movie. I mean, come on, those Terrorists can't tell he was building a armor suit from a missile.


Seems like they should have just used the terrorists as the final foe Iron Man defeats and keep Jeff Bridges' true motives hidden from Tony Stark.

yup, that's what I was thinking too..

Yeah I definitely wasn't trying to take the movie too seriously but I always wondered about that with the bad guy in superhero movies. Ok so you stole 2 million dollars, now what, yo'ure fucking mutant/monster/robot that just tore up manhattan
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah I definitely wasn't trying to take the movie too seriously but I always wondered about that with the bad guy in superhero movies. Ok so you stole 2 million dollars, now what, yo'ure fucking mutant/monster/robot that just tore up manhattan

that's why Batman and Spiderman have sequels, this won't.
 

Bignate603

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Sep 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Mo0o

Seems like they should have just used the terrorists as the final foe Iron Man defeats and keep Jeff Bridges' true motives hidden from Tony Stark.

anyways, thats my 2cents

Eh, this sticks closer to the comic. Stane went off the deep end and tried to kill Stark. Anyways, if Stane killed him he could just make the suit disappear. Who was going to believe that there's a huge lumbering mech on the loose?
 

Bignate603

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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah I definitely wasn't trying to take the movie too seriously but I always wondered about that with the bad guy in superhero movies. Ok so you stole 2 million dollars, now what, yo'ure fucking mutant/monster/robot that just tore up manhattan

that's why Batman and Spiderman have sequels, this won't.

Actually... the sequel should be coming out in 2010.
 

Mikey

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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah I definitely wasn't trying to take the movie too seriously but I always wondered about that with the bad guy in superhero movies. Ok so you stole 2 million dollars, now what, yo'ure fucking mutant/monster/robot that just tore up manhattan

that's why Batman and Spiderman have sequels, this won't.

What makes you think this won't have a sequel?
 

Scarpozzi

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I didn't ask too many whys....except how the heck did Ironman fly all the way to Afganistan to fight and defeat the bad guys and fly all the way back without having to make a bathroom stop???

I don't think his suit had a trap door. Can you imagine flying across the ocean in that thing after eating indian or thai food?
 
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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
He was trying to take over the company. He failed when Pepper stole the files. If she hadn't taken them, he would most likely have been able to take over the company.

On a side note, why didnt the house computer warn stark that he was even IN the house to begin with.

And why didn't he make a backup reactor?

The first one was supposed to be good for fifty years, and the newer one was supposedly better by an order of magnitude. I don't think he was planning on someone ripping it out of his chest.

Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah I definitely wasn't trying to take the movie too seriously but I always wondered about that with the bad guy in superhero movies. Ok so you stole 2 million dollars, now what, yo'ure fucking mutant/monster/robot that just tore up manhattan

that's why Batman and Spiderman have sequels, this won't.

Sequel starts shooting in nine months.
 

ChaoZ

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
I didn't ask too many whys....except how the heck did Ironman fly all the way to Afganistan to fight and defeat the bad guys and fly all the way back without having to make a bathroom stop???

I don't think his suit had a trap door. Can you imagine flying across the ocean in that thing after eating indian or thai food?

Who says he didn't?
 
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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
I didn't ask too many whys....except how the heck did Ironman fly all the way to Afganistan to fight and defeat the bad guys and fly all the way back without having to make a bathroom stop???

I don't think his suit had a trap door. Can you imagine flying across the ocean in that thing after eating indian or thai food?

Supersonic I guess. He can probably use afterburners forever
 

drinkmorejava

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Who cares about the bad guy, why didn't stark do a proper moment balance before he tested his new suit for the first time.
 

EvilYoda

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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah I definitely wasn't trying to take the movie too seriously but I always wondered about that with the bad guy in superhero movies. Ok so you stole 2 million dollars, now what, yo'ure fucking mutant/monster/robot that just tore up manhattan

that's why Batman and Spiderman have sequels, this won't.

Foot -> mouth.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah I definitely wasn't trying to take the movie too seriously but I always wondered about that with the bad guy in superhero movies. Ok so you stole 2 million dollars, now what, yo'ure fucking mutant/monster/robot that just tore up manhattan

that's why Batman and Spiderman have sequels, this won't.

I guess you didn't stay through the credits?
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
He was trying to take over the company. He failed when Pepper stole the files. If she hadn't taken them, he would most likely have been able to take over the company.

On a side note, why didnt the house computer warn stark that he was even IN the house to begin with.

And why didn't he make a backup reactor?

I guess he probably didn't expect anyone to even know what the reactor IS, much less that it would be used to power some OTHER big suit of armor
 

Bignate603

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Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Who cares about the bad guy, why didn't stark do a proper moment balance before he tested his new suit for the first time.

Yeah. I was thinking why the heck did he just try and turn it on with so much power rather than just ratcheting it up. A freshman engineer could look at the theoretical thrust of a engine and the weight of the vehicle (or person wearing a powered suit) and figure out if he's going to go flying off and hit something at dangerous speed.

If thrust > weight you will accelerate. If thrust >> weight you apparently will spin out of control, smash into a wall and then get sprayed by a robot with a fire extinguisher.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah I definitely wasn't trying to take the movie too seriously but I always wondered about that with the bad guy in superhero movies. Ok so you stole 2 million dollars, now what, yo'ure fucking mutant/monster/robot that just tore up manhattan

that's why Batman and Spiderman have sequels, this won't.

I guess you didn't stay through the credits?

Blah, I didn't.. what happened?
 
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Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Who cares about the bad guy, why didn't stark do a proper moment balance before he tested his new suit for the first time.

Yeah. I was thinking why the heck did he just try and turn it on with so much power rather than just ratcheting it up. A freshman engineer could look at the theoretical thrust of a engine and the weight of the vehicle (or person wearing a powered suit) and figure out if he's going to go flying off and hit something at dangerous speed.

If thrust > weight you will accelerate. If thrust >> weight you apparently will spin out of control, smash into a wall and then get sprayed by a robot with a fire extinguisher.

Well, in his excitement he may have forgotten to take into account the fact that he was wearing boots only, versus thrust when wearing the weight of the entire suit. ;)
 
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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Yeah I definitely wasn't trying to take the movie too seriously but I always wondered about that with the bad guy in superhero movies. Ok so you stole 2 million dollars, now what, yo'ure fucking mutant/monster/robot that just tore up manhattan

that's why Batman and Spiderman have sequels, this won't.

I guess you didn't stay through the credits?

Blah, I didn't.. what happened?

Here you go.
 

Bignate603

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Sep 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Who cares about the bad guy, why didn't stark do a proper moment balance before he tested his new suit for the first time.

Yeah. I was thinking why the heck did he just try and turn it on with so much power rather than just ratcheting it up. A freshman engineer could look at the theoretical thrust of a engine and the weight of the vehicle (or person wearing a powered suit) and figure out if he's going to go flying off and hit something at dangerous speed.

If thrust > weight you will accelerate. If thrust >> weight you apparently will spin out of control, smash into a wall and then get sprayed by a robot with a fire extinguisher.

Well, in his excitement he may have forgotten to take into account the fact that he was wearing boots only, versus thrust when wearing the weight of the entire suit. ;)

Possible, though the way he accelerated the suit would have to weigh a huge amount for thrust = weight at that thrust level.

I do like how they included the control surfaces, though the CFD analysis on that must have been a beast to do. ;)
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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The bad guy would have never been known to everyone outside of the few that knew of Jeff Bridges real plans. Also, he was already on the way to taking over the company.

The house computer probably is not smart of its surroundings it just takes direct input.

He probably felt like he didn't need the backup reactor because he trusted everyone he told about it.
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Who cares about the bad guy, why didn't stark do a proper moment balance before he tested his new suit for the first time.

Yeah. I was thinking why the heck did he just try and turn it on with so much power rather than just ratcheting it up. A freshman engineer could look at the theoretical thrust of a engine and the weight of the vehicle (or person wearing a powered suit) and figure out if he's going to go flying off and hit something at dangerous speed.

If thrust > weight you will accelerate. If thrust >> weight you apparently will spin out of control, smash into a wall and then get sprayed by a robot with a fire extinguisher.

The robot with the Fire Extinguisher was hilarious. You're right though, the dude should have known the amount of thrust needed.