Iraqis protest against terrorists!

CADsortaGUY

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Hundreds of power workers shouting "No, no, to terror!" marched through Baghdad on Thursday to protest attacks that have killed dozens of their colleagues
Lined up behind a black banner with the names of slain power workers, protesters demanded an end to attacks on electricity stations and oil pipelines - targets in an insurgent effort to weaken the economy and undermine the U.S.-led coalition and interim government.

:thumbsup:

Now THIS is something worth staging a rally/protest over.;) I mean if the "insurgents"/terrorists really want Coalition troops to leave - don't you think they'd stop destroying their own country and murdering their own people?

CsG
 

UglyCasanova

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Hmm, you would think that....

But I'm not thinking that is their goal. Hell I'm not sure what their goal is, or if they even have one.. Buncha trouble makers just trying to start sh!t. (the insurgence I mean) :p
 

Passions

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Wow, where are all the liberal treemongers??? *crickets*

Oh yah I forgot, they are hunting for anti-American, anti-Iraq news.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Passions
Wow, where are all the liberal treemongers??? *crickets*

Oh yah I forgot, they are hunting for anti-American, anti-Iraq news.

Now now, we have to allow some time for self-reflection and mediation over this news... wouldn't want to rush their "enlightenment" ;)

CsG
 

Darkhawk28

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Hmmm... U.S.-employed oil workers protesting terror. That was mentioned for about a paragraph or so, then the rest was fluff. I'd like to know more about this "demonstration" before commenting on its voracity.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Hmmm... U.S.-employed oil workers protesting terror. That was mentioned for about a paragraph or so, then the rest was fluff. I'd like to know more about this "demonstration" before commenting on its voracity.

Ummm, Electrical workers?

Dunno what their signs said at the protest -they were in Arabic. I'm sure if there were anti-US protests- the signs would be in English so as to hit the intended target.

CsG
 

novon

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I'll bet you the majority of Iraqis are "against" the suicide bomers. But they are also against the US occupation. How about paying attention to the millions of people all around the world that protested that?
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Hmmm... U.S.-employed oil workers protesting terror. That was mentioned for about a paragraph or so, then the rest was fluff. I'd like to know more about this "demonstration" before commenting on its voracity.

Ummm, Electrical workers?

Dunno what their signs said at the protest -they were in Arabic. I'm sure if there were anti-US protests- the signs would be in English so as to hit the intended target.

CsG

"We will stop pumping the oil and go on strike for those working in the oil field and the ports if our demands aren't met," said Mohammed Abdul Hafez, a union official who was one of the demonstration's organizers.
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
"We will stop pumping the oil and go on strike for those working in the oil field and the ports if our demands aren't met," said Mohammed Abdul Hafez, a union official who was one of the demonstration's organizers.
In context:
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Hundreds of power workers shouting "No, no, to terror!" marched through Baghdad on Thursday to protest attacks that have killed dozens of their colleagues, while demonstrators in the south demanded that the new petroleum minister be from their oil-rich region.

Al-Waeli agreed, saying: "We are eager that the people of Basra and the south have clout in the new government."

Some oil workers threatened to disrupt production in the south.

"We will stop pumping the oil and go on strike for those working in the oil field and the ports if our demands aren't met," said Mohammed Abdul Hafez, a union official who was one of the demonstration's organizers.
 

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Earlier this week I saw a paragraph size headline in a side bar on page A3 of our local paper about some Baghdad shopkeepers shooting back at insurgents that were shooting up civilians on the street. No mention of this on any major news outlet. Bad news travels fast and makes headlines; good news is just filler material.
 

Starbuck1975

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I'll bet you the majority of Iraqis are "against" the suicide bomers. But they are also against the US occupation. How about paying attention to the millions of people all around the world that protested that?

Perhaps those millions should take a look at their own hypocracy for protesting anything and everthing America does while conveniently ignoring the genocide occurring in Africa, and other atrocities in their own back yards.

Yes the Iraqi people are against the U.S. occupation, but a growing number of Iraqis are starting to recognize that the best way to end the occupation is seize control of their own government and provide for their own security...as such, their frustrations will start shifting from the Americans to the insurgents, as the only thing keeping the Americans in Iraq is the insurgents.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Perhaps those millions should take a look at their own hypocracy for protesting anything and everthing America does while conveniently ignoring the genocide occurring in Africa, and other atrocities in their own back yards.

What does that have to do with anything? Even assuming, arguendo, that these people around the world were hyprocrites, it doesn't make their claims against the US any less valid.

I commend you for recognizing however, that the Iraqi people are against the US occupation.
 

Starbuck1975

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What does that have to do with anything? Even assuming, arguendo, that these people around the world were hyprocrites, it doesn't make their claims against the US any less valid.

Hypocracy is one of many ways to invalidate an argument. If someone is against something out of principle, then they should be against all instances of that something. Perhaps validity is the wrong word...I am sure many people around the world have valid arguments against America's actions regarding Iraq...when it comes to world leaders jumping on this bandwagon, my argument is that they should pay attention to the glass houses they live in before throwing stones.

I commend you for recognizing however, that the Iraqi people are against the US occupation.

Interestingly enough, the Iraqi people are also relatively grateful that we got rid of that little Saddam dictator problem for them...probably wish we had done it a bit less destructively, but they are by and large glad he is gone...now they just want the big American giant out of town so they can rebuild and start over.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Hypocracy is one of many ways to invalidate an argument.

Actually, it isn't. It's a logical fallacy. I suggest you google for logical fallacies. Good day.
 

Starbuck1975

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Actually, it isn't. It's a logical fallacy. I suggest you google for logical fallacies. Good day.

This isn't a debate about semantics...but if you read my post further, I clarify that I was perhaps misusing the term "validity" within the context of my argument. So thank you for pointing this out...I will not mix my "logical fallacy" and "validity" baskets again. :D
 
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Originally posted by: DZip
Earlier this week I saw a paragraph size headline in a side bar on page A3 of our local paper about some Baghdad shopkeepers shooting back at insurgents that were shooting up civilians on the street. No mention of this on any major news outlet. Bad news travels fast and makes headlines; good news is just filler material.
I saw that too. It was even further back than page 3 in our local paper.

Three insurgents began firing at cars in Baghdad. The shopkeepers and some civilians on the street pulled out their guns and shot all 3 of them dead. Nice heroic actions from the Iraqi civilians. Virtually ignored by the MSM. Go figger.

 

drewshin

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Why is the liberal media not reporting this? :roll:

I had to search for it.;)

CBS - nope

ABC - nope

CNN? - nope

Google will get you something

*shrug*

CsG

It's amazing how lazy CfG is when searching for things he doesn't want to find:


http://app.abcnews.go.com/search?sort=d...testers%20power%20workers&site=abcnews

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/search/se...m=10&offset=0&sort=1&section=&type=all

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7284713/

Google news shows approximately 585 newspapers showing the same story:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=u...rkers+protest+attacks&btnG=Search+News

You can keep that foil hat on your head for the time being :)
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: drewshin
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Why is the liberal media not reporting this? :roll:

I had to search for it.;)

CBS - nope

ABC - nope

CNN? - nope

Google will get you something

*shrug*

CsG

It's amazing how lazy CfG is when searching for things he doesn't want to find:


http://app.abcnews.go.com/search?sort=d...testers%20power%20workers&site=abcnews

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/search/se...m=10&offset=0&sort=1§ion=&type=all

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7284713/

Google news shows approximately 585 newspapers showing the same story:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=u...rkers+protest+attacks&btnG=Search+News

You can keep that foil hat on your head for the time being :)

There is no tinfoil. At the time I posted, none of the ones I listed had any mention using broad search words. "Iraqi" and "protest" should have brought up any such hits on this story. Google had tons(which is how I found a link in the first place).

But hey, continue with your ignorance and accusations of "lazy" if you feel you must.
Also, I didn't bring the issue up, the ones who naively try to claim there is no bias in the MSM did - I merely shrugged at them not having the story. They try to claim that because some of the MSM had the story that for some reason means they aren't liberal. Nice try but a story here or there doesn't negate their bias.

Now back to the story.

CsG
 

imported_tss4

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: drewshin
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Why is the liberal media not reporting this? :roll:

I had to search for it.;)

CBS - nope

ABC - nope

CNN? - nope

Google will get you something

*shrug*

CsG

It's amazing how lazy CfG is when searching for things he doesn't want to find:


http://app.abcnews.go.com/search?sort=d...testers%20power%20workers&site=abcnews

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/search/se...m=10&offset=0&sort=1§ion=&type=all

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7284713/

Google news shows approximately 585 newspapers showing the same story:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=u...rkers+protest+attacks&btnG=Search+News

You can keep that foil hat on your head for the time being :)

There is no tinfoil. At the time I posted, none of the ones I listed had any mention using broad search words. "Iraqi" and "protest" should have brought up any such hits on this story. Google had tons(which is how I found a link in the first place).

But hey, continue with your ignorance and accusations of "lazy" if you feel you must.
Also, I didn't bring the issue up, the ones who naively try to claim there is no bias in the MSM did - I merely shrugged at them not having the story. They try to claim that because some of the MSM had the story that for some reason means they aren't liberal. Nice try but a story here or there doesn't negate their bias.

Now back to the story.

CsG


C'mon CAD, you can't be serious there's no evidence of left/right bias here. Fox itself hasn't said much about it. When clinton was pres. everytime he sent troops in, the only press we saw was bad press. See the pattern? there's bias allright, but its bias for news that sells and violence keeps people glued to the tv better than happy stories. Why do you think most of ALL of the news (yes, the non political stuff, too) is about the negative?

Its great news about the protest and, yes, I heard about the 3 insurgents getting killed and that was great too. Lets, hope things continue to improve.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Passions
Wow, where are all the liberal treemongers??? *crickets*

Oh yah I forgot, they are hunting for anti-American, anti-Iraq news.

Now now, we have to allow some time for self-reflection and mediation over this news... wouldn't want to rush their "enlightenment" ;)

CsG
Yes CAD. I'm taking some time to self-reflect before commenting. You know, the same thing you are obviously doing before you post in this thread.

;)