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Iraqis looking to marry find the time is right

Riprorin

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Iraqis looking to marry find the time is right

By Sabah al-Anbaki and Beth Potter, USA TODAY
BAGHDAD ? Iraq is a dangerous place. But not all the shooting at night is hostile. Much of the noise on weekends comes from wedding celebrations, where the joyful firing of weapons is a tradition.

Though firm national statistics aren't available, the number of marriages each month is believed to have increased at least 20% since the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime ? and by some estimates has almost doubled. Violence doesn't seem to have dampened the trend. Thursday, as fighting raged in Fallujah and a car bomb went off in Baghdad, hundreds of people lined up outside the al-Karakh courthouse in western Baghdad to file marriage contracts.

The Family Court judge there, Shaker Mahmoud al-Najar, says the court approves about 20 to 30 marriage contracts a day, about double prewar numbers.

The reasons have little to do with love. Experts say an increase in government salaries and an end to compulsory military service, which frees more young men for marriage, are behind the spike.

Most unions are arranged by families. In Iraq's deeply religious society, where most young men and women cannot date without a father or brother present, marriage offers the lure of an independent life. A contract is essentially an agreement that the future husband has money to support a family.

Akil Abbas, 24, is an auto repairman in eastern Baghdad who plans to get married to a woman his mother selected. Business at the repair shop is good; the number of cars in Baghdad has tripled. On some days, he says, he earns $50. Government salaries are about $150 a month, a sharp increase over prewar levels.

"She told me we will marry once I buy the bedroom furniture," Abbas says of his future bride. "She is not that demanding."

Abbas says marriage is not about love. "I don't have time for such tales," he says. "My mother said if you marry, you will be on the right path, and Allah will bless you."

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Looks like optimism reigns in Iraq.
 
Most unions are arranged by families. In Iraq's deeply religious society, where most young men and women cannot date without a father or brother present, marriage offers the lure of an independent life. A contract is essentially an agreement that the future husband has money to support a family.

It's part of the Iraqi culture.
 
oh, arranged marriages, i know abotu those (i'm indian)

well i disagree with those anyways

i thought these people were getting married just for the sake of marrying, i didn't read hte article though which is why i missed that
 
Actually, if you study the psychological literature, you will find a strong correlation between the threat of mortality and the desire to procreate. Of course, if one lives in a theocracy, like Iraq, or Rip's utopian vision of the U.S., that would express itself in marriage as well.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Most unions are arranged by families. In Iraq's deeply religious society, where most young men and women cannot date without a father or brother present, marriage offers the lure of an independent life. A contract is essentially an agreement that the future husband has money to support a family.

It's part of the Iraqi culture.


Why do you care about their culture? They still aren't capitalist christians, nor do they nessecarily want to be.
 
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Most unions are arranged by families. In Iraq's deeply religious society, where most young men and women cannot date without a father or brother present, marriage offers the lure of an independent life. A contract is essentially an agreement that the future husband has money to support a family.

It's part of the Iraqi culture.
Why do you care about their culture? They still aren't capitalist christians, nor do they nessecarily want to be.
He didn't say he cared about their culture, genius. He simply replied to someone who asked whether he minded Iraqis having arranged marriages.
"She told me we will marry once I buy the bedroom furniture," Abbas says of his future bride. "She is not that demanding."
*laughs* As someone with a crapload of cousins in Pakistan and the ME this is oddly reminiscent of what I know. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Most unions are arranged by families. In Iraq's deeply religious society, where most young men and women cannot date without a father or brother present, marriage offers the lure of an independent life. A contract is essentially an agreement that the future husband has money to support a family.

It's part of the Iraqi culture.


Why do you care about their culture? They still aren't capitalist christians, nor do they nessecarily want to be.

Getting back to the topic, what do you think about the vote of confidence in the future the Iraqis are showing evidenced by the huge jump in marriages?
 
I think it's because Saddam didn't let most people get married without his consent.

Regarding marriage for love. From my experiences and some empircal benchwork, it seems that marriages that based solely on love fail more often than couples who marry for other reasons.
 
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Most unions are arranged by families. In Iraq's deeply religious society, where most young men and women cannot date without a father or brother present, marriage offers the lure of an independent life. A contract is essentially an agreement that the future husband has money to support a family.

It's part of the Iraqi culture.


Why do you care about their culture? They still aren't capitalist christians, nor do they nessecarily want to be.

i gotta stick up for rip here, he didn't post this as a christian issue, more of a liberation/freedom issue
 
I'd be more encouraged if the Iraqi National Guard quit abandoning their posts or joining the other side every time they face the Insurgents in battle.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Most unions are arranged by families. In Iraq's deeply religious society, where most young men and women cannot date without a father or brother present, marriage offers the lure of an independent life. A contract is essentially an agreement that the future husband has money to support a family.

It's part of the Iraqi culture.


Why do you care about their culture? They still aren't capitalist christians, nor do they nessecarily want to be.

Getting back to the topic, what do you think about the vote of confidence in the future the Iraqis are showing evidenced by the huge jump in marriages?


Honestly to answer your question I believe it has something to do with wanting to be married before you die. Much like the craze and rush to get married when the Cuban Missile Crisis was taking place.
 
Originally posted by: myusername
Actually, if you study the psychological literature, you will find a strong correlation between the threat of mortality and the desire to procreate. Of course, if one lives in a theocracy, like Iraq, or Rip's utopian vision of the U.S., that would express itself in marriage as well.

very true, in times of dispair and lack of hope people try to create hope any way they can, marrige is one of the ways, the exact same thing happened in afghanistan shortly after the war began.. we humans are optimists, what else can be said 🙂
 
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Riprorin

Looks like optimism reigns in Iraq.

...to those looking through rose colored glasses.

No charge for finishing your quote.
How can those looking through opaque, brown-colored lenses see the color of what anyone else is wearing?

 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Riprorin

Looks like optimism reigns in Iraq.

...to those looking through rose colored glasses.

No charge for finishing your quote.
How can those looking through opaque, brown-colored lenses see the color of what anyone else is wearing?

TLC, every time an American soldier dies over there it trumps 10,000 of these RIP/CAD Iraqi feelgood threads. Get over it and move on.
 
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