Iraqis Defy Attackers in Historic Election

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ntdz

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Your bolded statment proves what? If you followed some of the other 20+ threads posted about this same topic I pointed out the hypocrisy of some of the right on this board who 2 years ago were calling for Iraq to be nuked and now care about their voting rights. I don't back down from that since it is the truth. Not 1 American life was worth it.
Um, remember saying this?
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You attacked me and the libs here in general. Waiting for links....
My bolded statement proves rather concretely that even if it was a personal attack, she could not have picked a better target than you. Which she didn't, but you seem to feel so anyways. Even though you do the same via your sig in every post you make, inside P&N or not.

As for you sig fascination, grow up. I think the mods would have a very different view than your take of justifying personal attacks based on the contents of users signatures. My sig is not in question. Try and keep up with thead. If the mods have a problem with it, they can ask me to change it. I think only a moron thinks it would be OK to sh!t all over the board ragging on peoples sigs. If you don't like it, don't read it.
*I* need to grow up? You're supposedly thirty-nine and you can't keep track of your own statements made the same day in your little quest to be anti-anything Republican. Considering you're the one who started off in here by calling a new poster a troll, alleging she's homeschooled from the backwoods, alleging she's a teenage boy. She finally responds to you, and you cry foul. Boo hoo. Go run crying to the mods.

Fvck You Nancy muppet Canadian.

Mods, ban away. This place is ruined.

BUSH WON. FOUR MORE YEARS. Enjoy it you liberal.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: Mill
HAHA, Canadians are only our allies when they agree with us! I love it, yllus defeats you with logic and you get pissy like a toddler. Aww, that's so cute. ;) Good show, good damn show.


I didn't see any logic from illyus. I see a bunch of whiny bitter nasty conservatives crapping in this thread.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: raildogg
on a side note, lets focus on the issue and spend less time attacking each other personally. :)


It would also be great if people would trim out unnecessary nested quotes from their replies. Having more than 5 levels of nesting in a reply is absurd, it makes the thread rather more difficult to follow.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Mill
HAHA, Canadians are only our allies when they agree with us! I love it, yllus defeats you with logic and you get pissy like a toddler. Aww, that's so cute. ;) Good show, good damn show.


I didn't see any logic from illyus. I see a bunch of whiny bitter nasty conservatives crapping in this thread.

illyus? Dyslexic much? You mean yllus, anyway, umbrella started the bitterness and attacks. He then couldn't take the logic and exploded on yllus. BTW, I am not a conservative, and neither is yllus. -1 points for you. ;)
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Mill
HAHA, Canadians are only our allies when they agree with us! I love it, yllus defeats you with logic and you get pissy like a toddler. Aww, that's so cute. ;) Good show, good damn show.


I didn't see any logic from illyus. I see a bunch of whiny bitter nasty conservatives crapping in this thread.

illyus? Dyslexic much? You mean yllus, anyway, umbrella started the bitterness and attacks. He then couldn't take the logic and exploded on yllus. BTW, I am not a conservative, and neither is yllus. -1 points for you. ;)

'Conservative' is a big umbrella, there's room for all sorts. I put illyus in the conservative camp, along with raildogg (more or less), Dissipate, Michelle, ntdz, etc.
 

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The election turn out is great news. One of my coworkers became a citizen last year after being in the US since shortly after the first Gulf War. He was so excited day when he was able to cast his first vote here. Hope his family back in Iraq have the same feeling he did.
 

imported_tss4

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Wow, my thread degraded quite quickly here.

Michelle,
You seem to be new here. Welcome, Its always nice to get a woman's view in this overwhelmingly male forum. I just wanted you to know that I'm a liberal and I take issue to what you said originally about how angry and pessimistic liberals are and about their desire for the Iraq policy to fail. I admit fully that I do not agree with our rational for entering the conflict. However, now that we're there, I feel (as do most of the liberals I have ever talked too) that we need to finish the job. I'm excited that the voting went so well the other day (hence I started this thread). It really fills me with hope about how all of this will turn out. You have to remember that on this forum you are getting the view of mostly the die hard dems and the die hard repubs, so the positions tend to be more radical and less compromizing than what the typical party memeber in the real world believes. In addition, its not fair to use Ted Kennedy as the example of what liberals believe. If you would like to do that there are quite a few conservative nut cases I can pull out and start pasting there retarded extremists quotes on this forum. Its not neccesary though because I'm sure you realize now that every party has its loud mouths.

In addition, I do not think its fair that you attack liberals in general for the comments that a few (admitedly loud and hard to ignore) liberals have made about the troops and wasted lives. The left is whiny right now, but so was the right about 10 years ago. Its an ugly side effect of our political system. The minority party sounds like a 2 year old baby.

 

conjur

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Watching the news reports yesterday was heart-warming. The Iraqi citizens sure seemed to enjoy the opportunity to vote, despite the deaths of dozens from suicide attacks. I've heard 60% turnout which is probably what the most optimistic were reporting (Except for a few up here that were calling for >80% turnout).

What gets me, though, are some of the comments from some of the Iraqis interviewed they seemed to think everything was going to be different now. That certainly remains to be seen, esp. if the Allawi-puppet retains control. And seeing Negroponte being interviewed just turned my stomach.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Michelle
Liberals have done nothing but give the impression that they want this election to fail, this war to fail, and for America to fail. They are the most negative and miserable group of human beings that exist in the world today. As a matter of fact, I can't think of one truly positive and happy liberal. They want this election to fail because they want BUSH to fail. If Bush fails, then they're happy. They are so wrapped up in their own anger they don't care about the Iraqis. They really don't care about the soilders either. They continuously make statements thath demoralize the troops, continuously making statements about how we shouldn't get too excited about this election because it will fail, continuously make statements that the insurgents that BEHEAD people, and KILL THEMSELVES ALONG WITH OTHERS, are only a political opposition group that has rights just like the Iraqi people.

It is the liberals like you that say that the Iraqi people and soilders (I assume) will have died in vain if this election fails. B.S.! No one fighting for freedom has died in vain. They died for a cause they believe in, something you obviously don't respect or understand. You need to take a long look at yourself and ask yourself if anyone should have died for any of the rights you have in this life. Do you think that every battle that was fought for your rights was won right away? When you're fighting for something sometimes you have to get up again and again until freedom prevails. I can only assume you're a quitter. You're one of those people who just wants to give up and be able to say these people died in vain if this election doesn't work. Who are YOU to decide that these people died in vain? Who are YOU? A nobody. A nobody that is so miserable with your own life, you can't stand to see President Bush suceed, you can't stand to see the Iraqi people suceed, and you can't stand to hear that people like you are just as bad as the insurgents. The reason you can't stand sucess, is because your probably nothing but a big failure yourself.
Yawn. Another Bush fluffer to sanctimoniously attack the left and parrot the talking points. :roll:

Don't you fvcking DARE attack someone for being sanctimonious. That is your entire persona on this forum, so please -- admit at least that you are mad because he/she is stealing that from you. Speaking of fluffers -- you were noticeably vacant from any thread that has EVER criticized the left or Kerry. You are more partisan that anyone on the forum, so your rant is a projection at best. Lets not get into your pretentious whining and crying over anything that goes against your preconceived notions. You are the first to say that someone is mentally vacuous, yet you parrot the mentally vacuous like a twelve-stepper. Congrats for being a bigger hypocrite than Rush Limbaugh. That must suck being compared to your anti-christ, eh?



BTW, you are on the wrong forum if you wish to engage in an "OMG IRAQ SHOULD FAIL I HATE BUSH self-fellatio party"
Yawn. Feel better now?

 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
ROFL. Look who pipes up when I mention Bush fluffers and mindless parrots. False alarm Rip, you can crawl back under your bridge. I was talking about a different troll.


Any chance of Michelle, et al, documenting her (?) claim that "Liberals have done nothing but give the impression that they want this election to fail, this war to fail, and for America to fail."? Any chance of one of the few remaining reasoned righties here denouncing her attack for the BS that it is? You can damn well bet they'd be all over the left for making a similarly broad and dishonest slur.

Slur? Damn, you are the biggest hypocrite ever. You are 10 seconds from being the next Dave Mcowen, so don't puff up in hysterics and start accusing someone of slurring your ideology. It is being attacked for a reason, that is because your side has put up with morons such a jpeyton, Supertool and BarneyFife without EVER condemning them. If you want condemnation, then you start with them for wishing death on our troops and a failure in Iraq. Otherwise, it is just your typical bleating and whining.
Woot! A two-fer on gratuitous personal attacks from Mill!

Someone must be a little cranky today. Try some of your mommy's Midol. They seem to help my wife.

:laugh:
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Michelle
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Michelle
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Don't feed the home schooled backwoods troll. No sense in arguing with a teenage boy that pretends to be a girl.


I wish that I could brag that I was home schooled. Oh, and I'm not pretending to be a girl, I'm being the woman I am (which is twice the man you are) and who just so happens to not have any problem turning heads. Unfortunately, sometimes pansy men like you take a look and only wish...

:roll: as your chubby thumbs fumble across the keyboard


Heck, you probably wish I was a teenage boy, don't you? And at least one part of my anatomy was "chubby."
Burn!!!:laugh:

Clif notes to this thread:
The Left "You're an asshole"
The Right " No you're the asshole"
:roll:
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Michelle
"The nations in the Middle East are independent, except for Iraq, which began the 20th century under Ottoman occupation and is now beginning the 21st century under American occupation.



Iraq could very well be another Algeria, where the French won the military battle for Algiers, but ultimately lost the political battle for Algeria.

Despite the clear lesson of history, the President stubbornly clings to the false hope that the turning point is just around the corner.



The ending of the rule of Saddam Hussein was supposed to lessen violence and bring an irresistible wave of democracy to the Middle East. It hasn?t. Saddam Hussein?s capture was supposed to quell the violence. It didn?t. The transfer of sovereignty was supposed to be the breakthrough. It wasn?t. The military operation in Fallujah was supposed to break the back of the insurgency. It didn?t."

"We all hope for the best from Sunday?s election. The Iraqis have a right to determine their own future. But Sunday?s election is not a cure for the violence and instability. Unless the Sunni and all the other communities in Iraq believe they have a stake in the outcome and a genuine role in drafting the new Iraqi constitution, the election could lead to greater alienation, greater escalation, and greater death ? for us and for the Iraqis."

Quotes from Ted.
And? Care to highlight the one(s) that demonstrate, "Liberals have done nothing but give the impression that they want this election to fail, this war to fail, and for America to fail."? Note the line I bolded. It directly contradicts your premise.

Seems to me you're making the universal Bush apologist mistake of shooting the messenger for any truths you dislike.
 

Originally posted by: tss4
Iraqis Defy Attackers in Historic Election

It appears the Iraqis really do want democracy in their country. Despite some violence they are voting in large numbers. Lets hope this is the beginning of a long lasting democracy in Iraq.

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqis danced and clapped with joy Sunday as they voted in their country's first free election in a half-century, defying insurgents who launched eight suicide bombings and mortar strikes at polling stations. The attacks killed at least 36 people.

An Iraqi election official said that 72 percent of eligible Iraqi voters had turned out so far nationwide. The official, Adel al-Lami of the Independent Electoral Commission, offered no overall figures of the actual number of Iraqis who have voted to back up the claim.
Don't we ever learn from our past? Do we all remember how the media and US government showed pictures and made so much noise about the Iraqis being elated that the Saddam regime had fallen? Indeed, there were pictures to back up that claim. However, how long did it take before the people became resentful? Do we not know why they were resentful?

Have we not learned a lesson from even that one event? For a second time, we have hyped the response from Iraqis. Indeed, I believe they were elated, but you know why? Some are hoping that this means the end of occupation, but most I believe have been passed on an illusional idea of democracy. Democracy is broadcasted by the media and the government as some magical thing achieved with no efforts except making choices on a piece of paper (i.e., voting). Most of the Iraqis are excited because they're expecting a magic, and they think that this is democracy. It isn't. Democracy is a process achieved with efforts (that infers patience) and honesty.

Here is my prediction: Unless the US leaves the country early and a new so-called elected government in installed--with prompt changes made to improve the lives and freedom of the average people, there will be a significant increase in distrust, resentment, resistance, and support for resistance. However, being as realistic as we can for those who know what democracy truly means, we know that things aren't going to change quickly. There is no such thing as an emergency democracy, for even our country in its early years experimented twice with failure in her system of government before accomplishing something. Hence, I?m afraid the future is dull.

P.S. Before a political affiliation war begins, I am not affiliated any political parties and couldn't give a rat a$$ whether a democrat or republican is in power.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: DearQT
Originally posted by: tss4
Iraqis Defy Attackers in Historic Election

It appears the Iraqis really do want democracy in their country. Despite some violence they are voting in large numbers. Lets hope this is the beginning of a long lasting democracy in Iraq.

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqis danced and clapped with joy Sunday as they voted in their country's first free election in a half-century, defying insurgents who launched eight suicide bombings and mortar strikes at polling stations. The attacks killed at least 36 people.

An Iraqi election official said that 72 percent of eligible Iraqi voters had turned out so far nationwide. The official, Adel al-Lami of the Independent Electoral Commission, offered no overall figures of the actual number of Iraqis who have voted to back up the claim.
Don't we ever learn from our past? Do we all remember how the media and US government showed pictures and made so much noise about the Iraqis being elated that the Saddam regime had fallen? Indeed, there were pictures to back up that claim. However, how long did it take before the people became resentful? Do we not know why they were resentful?

Have we not learned a lesson from even that one event? For a second time, we have hyped the response from Iraqis. Indeed, I believe they were elated, but you know why? Some are hoping that this means the end of occupation, but most I believe have been passed on an illusional idea of democracy. Democracy is broadcasted by the media and the government as some magical thing achieved with no efforts except making choices on a piece of paper (i.e., voting). Most of the Iraqis are excited because they're expecting a magic, and they think that this is democracy. It isn't. Democracy is a process achieved with efforts (that infers patience) and honesty.

Here is my prediction: Unless the US leaves the country early and a new so-called elected government in installed--with prompt changes made to improve the lives and freedom of the average people, there will be a significant increase in distrust, resentment, resistance, and support for resistance. However, being as realistic as we can for those who know what democracy truly means, we know that things aren't going to change quickly. There is no such thing as an emergency democracy, for even our country in its early years experimented twice with failure in her system of government before accomplishing something. Hence, I?m afraid the future is dull.

P.S. Before a political affiliation war begins, I am not affiliated any political parties and couldn't give a rat a$$ whether a democrat or republican is in power.

Nice post. :thumbsup:
 

Ldir

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Originally posted by: tss4
Iraqis Defy Attackers in Historic Election

It appears the Iraqis really do want democracy in their country. Despite some violence they are voting in large numbers. Lets hope this is the beginning of a long lasting democracy in Iraq.

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqis danced and clapped with joy Sunday as they voted in their country's first free election in a half-century, defying insurgents who launched eight suicide bombings and mortar strikes at polling stations. The attacks killed at least 36 people.

An Iraqi election official said that 72 percent of eligible Iraqi voters had turned out so far nationwide. The official, Adel al-Lami of the Independent Electoral Commission, offered no overall figures of the actual number of Iraqis who have voted to back up the claim.

This is good news. It will be better news when we start bringing our troops home.
 

imported_tss4

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Originally posted by: DearQT
Originally posted by: tss4
Iraqis Defy Attackers in Historic Election

It appears the Iraqis really do want democracy in their country. Despite some violence they are voting in large numbers. Lets hope this is the beginning of a long lasting democracy in Iraq.

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqis danced and clapped with joy Sunday as they voted in their country's first free election in a half-century, defying insurgents who launched eight suicide bombings and mortar strikes at polling stations. The attacks killed at least 36 people.

An Iraqi election official said that 72 percent of eligible Iraqi voters had turned out so far nationwide. The official, Adel al-Lami of the Independent Electoral Commission, offered no overall figures of the actual number of Iraqis who have voted to back up the claim.
Don't we ever learn from our past? Do we all remember how the media and US government showed pictures and made so much noise about the Iraqis being elated that the Saddam regime had fallen? Indeed, there were pictures to back up that claim. However, how long did it take before the people became resentful? Do we not know why they were resentful?

Have we not learned a lesson from even that one event? For a second time, we have hyped the response from Iraqis. Indeed, I believe they were elated, but you know why? Some are hoping that this means the end of occupation, but most I believe have been passed on an illusional idea of democracy. Democracy is broadcasted by the media and the government as some magical thing achieved with no efforts except making choices on a piece of paper (i.e., voting). Most of the Iraqis are excited because they're expecting a magic, and they think that this is democracy. It isn't. Democracy is a process achieved with efforts (that infers patience) and honesty.

Here is my prediction: Unless the US leaves the country early and a new so-called elected government in installed--with prompt changes made to improve the lives and freedom of the average people, there will be a significant increase in distrust, resentment, resistance, and support for resistance. However, being as realistic as we can for those who know what democracy truly means, we know that things aren't going to change quickly. There is no such thing as an emergency democracy, for even our country in its early years experimented twice with failure in her system of government before accomplishing something. Hence, I?m afraid the future is dull.

P.S. Before a political affiliation war begins, I am not affiliated any political parties and couldn't give a rat a$$ whether a democrat or republican is in power.


Good points. But history has also shown as that extremists elements are able to overthrow weak democratic governments... particularly in poor desperate parts of the world.
 
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Originally posted by: DearQT
Originally posted by: tss4
Iraqis Defy Attackers in Historic Election

It appears the Iraqis really do want democracy in their country. Despite some violence they are voting in large numbers. Lets hope this is the beginning of a long lasting democracy in Iraq.

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqis danced and clapped with joy Sunday as they voted in their country's first free election in a half-century, defying insurgents who launched eight suicide bombings and mortar strikes at polling stations. The attacks killed at least 36 people.

An Iraqi election official said that 72 percent of eligible Iraqi voters had turned out so far nationwide. The official, Adel al-Lami of the Independent Electoral Commission, offered no overall figures of the actual number of Iraqis who have voted to back up the claim.
Don't we ever learn from our past? Do we all remember how the media and US government showed pictures and made so much noise about the Iraqis being elated that the Saddam regime had fallen? Indeed, there were pictures to back up that claim. However, how long did it take before the people became resentful? Do we not know why they were resentful?

Have we not learned a lesson from even that one event? For a second time, we have hyped the response from Iraqis. Indeed, I believe they were elated, but you know why? Some are hoping that this means the end of occupation, but most I believe have been passed on an illusional idea of democracy. Democracy is broadcasted by the media and the government as some magical thing achieved with no efforts except making choices on a piece of paper (i.e., voting). Most of the Iraqis are excited because they're expecting a magic, and they think that this is democracy. It isn't. Democracy is a process achieved with efforts (that infers patience) and honesty.

Here is my prediction: Unless the US leaves the country early and a new so-called elected government in installed--with prompt changes made to improve the lives and freedom of the average people, there will be a significant increase in distrust, resentment, resistance, and support for resistance. However, being as realistic as we can for those who know what democracy truly means, we know that things aren't going to change quickly. There is no such thing as an emergency democracy, for even our country in its early years experimented twice with failure in her system of government before accomplishing something. Hence, I?m afraid the future is dull.

P.S. Before a political affiliation war begins, I am not affiliated any political parties and couldn't give a rat a$$ whether a democrat or republican is in power.
The expression of joy is an ephemeral thing. Often people express joy over a situation without thinking of the long-term consequences, and the Iraqis seemed to do just that when the US invaded Iraq. There were expectations that hinged on an unrealistic outlook. When those unrealistic expectations were not met, resentment set in.

It's like someone who is unemployed for a long time and suddenly finds a job. Most are ecstatic...at first, until they discover that having a job actually involves working as well. Often their attitude about their job changes very quickly and soon the new job, which initially brought such ecstacy, now sucks.

I think many Iraqis had that same sort of attitude. They forgot about all the work involved in their new job of creting a democratic Iraq and, when they found out the work was really tough, didn't want that job any longer; the same job that once made them ecstatic.

Now they are finally reconciling themselves to the work involved and are also finding there are occassioanl fruits to their labors which will bring about more of that ephemeral ecstacy. The election was one example of that. After the US invaded things didn't move forward very well. There was a definite lack of progress. The election clearly demonstrates that there is now progress in Iraq. Now that the Iraqis are closer to the goal, maybe the work won't seem quite so hard any more?
 

Tom

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Freedom>Fear.

(let's not forget that for our own country as we try to come to grips with terrorists.)





 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Michelle
"The nations in the Middle East are independent, except for Iraq, which began the 20th century under Ottoman occupation and is now beginning the 21st century under American occupation.



Iraq could very well be another Algeria, where the French won the military battle for Algiers, but ultimately lost the political battle for Algeria.

Despite the clear lesson of history, the President stubbornly clings to the false hope that the turning point is just around the corner.



The ending of the rule of Saddam Hussein was supposed to lessen violence and bring an irresistible wave of democracy to the Middle East. It hasn?t. Saddam Hussein?s capture was supposed to quell the violence. It didn?t. The transfer of sovereignty was supposed to be the breakthrough. It wasn?t. The military operation in Fallujah was supposed to break the back of the insurgency. It didn?t."

"We all hope for the best from Sunday?s election. The Iraqis have a right to determine their own future. But Sunday?s election is not a cure for the violence and instability. Unless the Sunni and all the other communities in Iraq believe they have a stake in the outcome and a genuine role in drafting the new Iraqi constitution, the election could lead to greater alienation, greater escalation, and greater death ? for us and for the Iraqis."

Quotes from Ted.
And? Care to highlight the one(s) that demonstrate, "Liberals have done nothing but give the impression that they want this election to fail, this war to fail, and for America to fail."? Note the line I bolded. It directly contradicts your premise.

Seems to me you're making the universal Bush apologist mistake of shooting the messenger for any truths you dislike.

Just following your lead. :cookie:
 

Gaard

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What does it tell you that a number of righties on this board have made the same claim about how Liberals want the election to fail, etc, but none can back up the claim. Not alchy, not this girl (guy) in here, not any of them? Are they so desperate to paint Liberals in a bad light, that they have to start lying?

Of course Michelle did give CAD a "right on!", that must count for something. ;)
 

Gaard

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*Gaard wishes that people would have a little more self-control with the running quotes. Kinda rude.*
 
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Originally posted by: Gaard
What does it tell you that a number of righties on this board have made the same claim about how Liberals want the election to fail, etc, but none can back up the claim. Not alchy, not this girl (guy) in here, not any of them? Are they so desperate to paint Liberals in a bad light, that they have to start lying?

Of course Michelle did give CAD a "right on!", that must count for something. ;)
Well the liberals sure gave that impression by their constant gloom and doom predictions about the elections, proclamations that it would be a complete sham, protests that it was nothing but the US setting up a puppet government, and claims that elections should not be held in a war zone.

Of course, I haven't seen a single liberal in here yet, of alll those claiming this would be a disaster, come clean and admit they were utterly wrong.

I imagine we'll be waiting for that admission for some time to come.

And if you want some backup for my claims above, here are a few links to previous threads:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...rd1=elections+AND+fail

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

 

Starbuck1975

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I dont think any of the left leaning board members overtly or perhaps even privately hoped the election process in Iraq would fail...but let's just say this...and it is entirely my opinion...had election day in Iraq gone horribly wrong...hundreds dead...low voter turnout...doom and gloom as many predicted...I would have opened the forums this morning to multiple threads gloating over the utter failure of this administration.

That the election went better then anyone expected flies against what many supposed experts and pundits predicted.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Gaard
What does it tell you that a number of righties on this board have made the same claim about how Liberals want the election to fail, etc, but none can back up the claim. Not alchy, not this girl (guy) in here, not any of them? Are they so desperate to paint Liberals in a bad light, that they have to start lying?

Of course Michelle did give CAD a "right on!", that must count for something. ;)
Well the liberals sure gave that impression by their constant gloom and doom predictions about the elections, proclamations that it would be a complete sham, protests that it was nothing but the US setting up a puppet government, and claims that elections should not be held in a war zone.

Of course, I haven't seen a single liberal in here yet, of alll those claiming this would be a disaster, come clean and admit they were utterly wrong.

I imagine we'll be waiting for that admission for some time to come.

And if you want some backup for my claims above, here are a few links to previous threads:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...rd1=elections+AND+fail

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

Um, I'm scratching my head here wondering what your post has to do with my post.