Iraqi refugees (from Detroit) support the removal of Saddam

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conjur

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"People are already dying," said Faris Sharba, 35, a loan officer who came here after the Gulf War. "The people inside are in a prison. My family and friends back home said to me, 'It is worth my life if they remove Saddam Hussein.' "

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RyanM

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No kidding.

Metro-Detroit has either the 1st or 2nd largest concentration of Iraqis in the whole of the U.S. Can't recall which it is.

Regardless, you won't see many of them at the Anti-War rally happening this Saturday in Detroit - Mainly, because they'll be at their homes, most likely praying their loved ones overseas make it through the conflict, and clamoring for Saddam's head on a stick.

Go ahead, come up here to Dearborn or Ann Arbor and ask 'em. They'll gladly tell you what we're doing needs to be done.
 
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tcsenter

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Surely you jest! He must be a Republican.

Everyone knows that all Iraqi's support Hussein, being that he's such a great guy with all of his death squads and stuff. Who wouldn't want to live under an oppressive dictator?
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Remember, Hussein didn't ask Americans to liberate Iraq.
 
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i used to live in Detroit..i'm part iraqi

i think the washington post is crap

and this man is ONE man...

about EVERY SINGLE iraqi i know rather see saddam in power -- than another Karzai regime...doy!

Edit: the Iraqis that inhabit detroit are a minority group known as Chaldeans - by no means do they represent the majority opinion

 
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about EVERY SINGLE iraqi i know rather see saddam in power -- than another Karzai regime...doy!

Edit: the Iraqis that inhabit detroit are a minority group known as Chaldeans - by no means do they represent the majority opinion
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And you do? lol!

If all the Iraqis that you know would rather see Saddam in power, that can only mean you have surrounded yourself with those who support murder and tyranny. Nice job.

Personally, I'd be embarrassed to admit that, but apparently that doesn't bother you, though that isn't surprising considering that you are a supporter of murder and tyranny.

NO IRAQI supports Hussein except those who owe their very existence to the Baath Party because they have been willing to do Hussein's bidding in exchange for wealth and protection.

The Nazis had staunch loyalists and defenders, too, because they were rewarded and protected for that loyalty, if not allowed to live.
 
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Originally posted by: tcsenter

NO IRAQI supports Hussein except those who owe their very existence to the Baath Party because they have been willing to do Hussein's bidding in exchange for wealth and protection.
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You sure know a lot about how the Iraqi people feel. When were you in Iraq? You speak Arabic, I presume?

BTW, all the Iraqi expatriots in this country are pretty strongly anti-Saddam. That's why they left Iraq or were expelled, whatever the case. They are not necessarily representative of the average Iraqi actually living there.
 
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BTW, all the Iraqi expatriots in this country are pretty strongly anti-Saddam. That's why they left Iraq or were expelled, whatever the case. They are not necessarily representative of the average Iraqi actually living there.
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I don't give a damn what the views of Hussein's supporters are. No more than I give a damn what the views of Hitlers supporters were.

If this were 1943, I would hold the view that supporters of Hitler are a stain on all of humanity, they should surrender unconditionally and join the human race, or die. We'll be glad to bury them.

This is 2003, I hold the view that supporters of Hussein are a stain on all humanity and they should surrender unconditionally and join the human race, or die. I'll be glad to pitch in and dig a few hundred holes.
 
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tcsenter

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You sure know a lot about how the Iraqi people feel. When were you in Iraq? You speak Arabic, I presume?
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When Iraq is a country where the Iraqi people can voice their true opinions of Hussein without the fear of death as a consequence, then you can be smug, you arrogant SOB.

But you don't want that to happen, do you? Why is that, might we presume?
 
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RyanM

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Originally posted by: Pers
i used to live in Detroit..i'm part iraqi

i think the washington post is crap

and this man is ONE man...

about EVERY SINGLE iraqi i know rather see saddam in power -- than another Karzai regime...doy!

Edit: the Iraqis that inhabit detroit are a minority group known as Chaldeans - by no means do they represent the majority opinion
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Really? What part of Detroit? What street? What was your favorite local movie theater? Concert venue?

Not all Metro Iraqis are Chaldeans. We also have a high concentration of Muslim Iraqis. If you actually lived here, you'd f*cking know that.

I'll bet rubles to rupees you don't have a single ounce of Arab in you, and you're simply some 15-year-old white trash liberal punk who hasn't got a freaking clue what's going on in the world today.

No? Then prove it.
 
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yowolabi

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
BTW, all the Iraqi expatriots in this country are pretty strongly anti-Saddam. That's why they left Iraq or were expelled, whatever the case. They are not necessarily representative of the average Iraqi actually living there.
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I don't give a damn what the views of Hussein's supporters are. No more than I give a damn what the views of Hitlers supporters were.

If this were 1943, I would hold the view that supporters of Hitler are a stain on all of humanity, they should surrender unconditionally and join the human race, or die. We'll be glad to bury them.

This is 2003, I hold the view that supporters of Hussein are a stain on all humanity and they should surrender unconditionally and join the human race, or die. I'll be glad to pitch in and dig a few hundred holes.
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Whenever Hitler is brought up, someone definitely wants to win an argument badly.

If the views of Saddam's supporters are irrelevant, then so are the views of his detractors. Whichever you choose, judging the views of Iraqis by the people who had such problems they either left Iraq or were kicked out is useless.
 
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conjur

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Originally posted by: yowolabi

Whenever Hitler is brought up, someone definitely wants to win an argument badly.
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Should he have said Stalin, Castro, Genghis Kahn?

If the views of Saddam's supporters are irrelevant, then so are the views of his detractors. Whichever you choose, judging the views of Iraqis by the people who had such problems they either left Iraq or were kicked out is useless.
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Question then...who are truly supporters of Saddam? And I'm not talking those forced to under penalty of death to themselves or their family. Very few 'true' supporters of Saddam and I would hazard a bet they are all higher-ups in the military and very close to Saddam. In that case, yes, their views are irrelevant.
 
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i used to live in Detroit..i'm part iraqi

i think the washington post is crap

and this man is ONE man...

about EVERY SINGLE iraqi i know rather see saddam in power -- than another Karzai regime...doy!

Edit: the Iraqis that inhabit detroit are a minority group known as Chaldeans - by no means do they represent the majority opinion
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Yeah right. I still happen to live here and one thing is certain: I have many christian (Chaldean) and muslim friends and acquaintances who have immigrated from Iraq. None of them support Saddam.

Now, am I gonna believe them, or someone who claims they are part Iraqi in this thread and Iranian in another thread?

Gee, that's a tough decision........Ok, well maybe not.
 
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RyanM

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And of course, once we have links and anecdotal evidence from more than one person supporting the facts contrary to his position, Pers is nowhere to be found.

What a fuckadoodledoo.
 
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From what I've been reading most Iraqis aren't in love with Hussein, but they prefer him to the alternative of US control.
 
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RyanM

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The idea, of course, is that there won't be U.S. control.

Even if there was, they only fear U.S. control because the ONLY things they know about the U.S. come from the blatantly lying Iraqi State television and the heavily slanted Al Jazeera.

Ask any Kuwaiti, ANY one of them what they think of America and they'll talk your ear off for an hour explaining how grateful they are for America's role in their liberation.

F*cking shame the French don't have that sort of appreciation.
 
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Originally posted by: flavio
From what I've been reading most Iraqis aren't in love with Hussein, but they prefer him to the alternative of US control.
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You must mean your posts here.

 
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Originally posted by: MachFive

Ask any Kuwaiti, ANY one of them what they think of America and they'll talk your ear off for an hour explaining how grateful they are for America's role in their liberation.
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Haha, Kuwaitis. Of course they love us for rescuing them. They are a bunch of rich folk. They like us because we keep them rich. We like them because they are in our pocket and play our game.
 
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I don't give a damn what the views of Hussein's supporters are. No more than I give a damn what the views of Hitlers supporters were.
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So if the majority of Iraqis support Saddam you'd support his overthrow because a minority want to see him removed?

Can you run that by me again?

 
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Originally posted by: DoctorPizza
I don't give a damn what the views of Hussein's supporters are. No more than I give a damn what the views of Hitlers supporters were.
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So if the majority of Iraqis support Saddam you'd support his overthrow because a minority want to see him removed?

Can you run that by me again?
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The question wasn't directed at me, but I'll answer it. YES, b/c Saddam's views & actions, just like Hitler's views and actions were pure evil and were intended to cause fear, suffering, and death. I support the overthrow of that regardless of how many followers he has
 
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