Iraq war was illegal and breached UN charter, says Annan

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colonel

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the UN is a international org, and if you said it sucks means that comunications with the Bush broke off because the arrogance of this administration, having the UN in the world today is a balance of power between American and Europe
 

judasmachine

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: judasmachine
I just don't get why americans seperate themselves from everyone else so much, then from their ivory towers pronounce that everyone should be free and equal.
You mean "Some Americans" like those who live vicariously through the actions of our leaders and soldiers.

Oh yes, sorry I am not fully awake yet. :)
 

burnedout

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Iraq war was illegal and breached UN charter, says Annan
Hell, if I ran a racket that scammed billions of dollars from various parties while providing a job for my incompetent son, then I'd declare the war illegal too.

Oil for food...... Darfur...... sexual harrassment...... sexual exploitation in Bosnia and Sierra Leone..... anti-semitism..... Congo...... UN Human Rights Commission [Bah hahahaha].......

No, you can't make this stuff up. I haven't got all day either.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Hell, if I ran a racket that scammed billions of dollars from various parties while providing a job for my incompetent son, then I'd declare the war legal too.

No way to talk about GB the First :p

 

DashRiprock

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Illegal...ha! A UN approved resolution gave the "Coalition of the Willing" the right to go into Iraq and not to mention that there was never an armistic to the Gulf War..."War ON!" The UK, Australia & Japan are strongly rebuking Mr. Annan's comments.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: DashRiprock
Illegal...ha! A UN approved resolution gave the "Coalition of the Willing" the right to go into Iraq and not to mention that there was never an armistic to the Gulf War..."War ON!" The UK, Australia & Japan are strongly rebuking Mr. Annan's comments.

ha ha... get your facts stright
 

Moonbeam

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And to think we laugh about the fact that the prisons are full of innocent men completely unaware that we are exactly what we despise. The criminal mind is characterized by full self-justification.


 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
The other side of the coin is that Iraq has never listened to a single thing that the UN has said. :)
Dude get a clue. Saddam made mad bank on the UN Oil for Food Program. He listened the UN alright . . . all too well.

Oh there is the whole WMD thing . . . last I checked . . . there's no WMD stockpiles, there's no WMD programs . . . the best Bushistas have to offer is weapons of mass destruction program related activities. It looks like Saddam either listened to the UN or Clinton/Blair bombing "impressions".

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
I just don't get why americans seperate themselves from everyone else so much, then from their ivory towers pronounce that everyone should be free and equal.

Originally posted by: ntdz
whats the UN gonna do, declare war on the usa?

Not everyone is in "Ivory Towers", that's just the brainwashed Rich Elitist Neocons, just happens to be that they are the ruling Regime.

and maybe they should declare "War" on the U.S., it's clearly out of control under the Dub and the Neocons Regime.
 

DashRiprock

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: SickBeast
The other side of the coin is that Iraq has never listened to a single thing that the UN has said. :)
Dude get a clue. Saddam made mad bank on the UN Oil for Food Program. He listened the UN alright . . . all too well.

Oh there is the whole WMD thing . . . last I checked . . . there's no WMD stockpiles, there's no WMD programs . . . the best Bushistas have to offer is weapons of mass destruction program related activities. It looks like Saddam either listened to the UN or Clinton/Blair bombing "impressions".

WMD was not the only reason for going back into Iraq...

UN Resolution 1441

Contained in UN Resolution 1441 - Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations,

"Decides that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its obligations under relevant resolutions"

"Decides further that Iraq shall not take or threaten hostile acts directed against any representative or personnel of the United Nations or the IAEA or of any Member State taking action to uphold any Council resolution"

"the Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations"

...WAR ON!
 

Czar

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DashRiprock,
I have said this probably about hundred times on the forum. UN wording for authorizing military action is "any means necisery" not "serious consiquences"
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: jetaime
Monumental Rip-Off?
Allegations of Widespread Corruption Involve Saddam Hussein, U.N. Senior Officials

By Brian Ross
ABCNEWS.com

April 20 ? At least three senior United Nations officials are suspected of taking multimillion-dollar bribes from the Saddam Hussein regime, U.S. and European intelligence sources tell ABCNEWS.
Click Here

One year after his fall, U.S. officials say they have evidence, some in cash, that Saddam diverted to his personal bank accounts approximately $5 billion from the United Nations Oil-for-Food program.

In what has been described as the largest humanitarian aid effort ever undertaken, the U.N. Oil-for-Food program began in 1996 to help Iraqis who were suffering under sanctions imposed following the first Gulf War.

The program allowed Iraq to sell limited amounts of oil, under supposedly tight U.N. supervision, to finance the purchase of much-needed humanitarian goods.

Most prominent among those accused in the scandal is Benon Sevan, the Cyprus-born U.N. undersecretary general who ran the program for six years.

In an interview with ABCNEWS last year, Sevan denied any wrongdoing.

"Well, I can tell you there have been no allegations about me," he said. "Maybe you can try to dig it out." And in a Feb. 10 statement, Sevan challenged those making the allegations to "come forward and provide the necessary documentary evidence" and present it to U.N. investigators.

But documents have surfaced in Baghdad, in the files of the former Iraqi Oil Ministry, allegedly linking Sevan to a pay-off scheme in which some 270 prominent foreign officials received the right to trade in Iraqi oil at cut-rate prices.

"It's almost like having coupons of bonds or shares. You can sell those coupons to other people who are normal oil traders," said Claude Hankes-Drielsma, a British adviser to the Iraq Governing Council.

Investigators say the smoking gun is a letter to former Iraqi oil minister Amer Mohammed Rasheed, obtained by ABCNEWS and not yet in the hands of the United Nations.

I Bet the UN helped Saddam get the WMD's out of Iraq before the war to make the US look bad.
 

DashRiprock

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Originally posted by: Czar
DashRiprock,
I have said this probably about hundred times on the forum. UN wording for authorizing military action is "any means necisery" not "serious consiquences"

Oh I forgot, in UN wording "serious consequences" means "another meaningless Resolution"....HA!
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: DashRiprock
Originally posted by: Czar
DashRiprock,
I have said this probably about hundred times on the forum. UN wording for authorizing military action is "any means necisery" not "serious consiquences"

Oh I forgot, in UN wording "serious consequences" means "another meaningless Resolution"....HA!
:cookie:
 

Riprorin

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Saddam flouted 17 UN Resolutions, if you are counting. He also violated the terms of the cease fire agreement from the Gulf War.

Of course, that doesn't seem to bother the Libs.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Saddam flouted 17 UN Resolutions, if you are counting. He also violated the terms of the cease fire agreement from the Gulf War.

Of course, that doesn't seem to bother the Libs.

that is the only possible chance of it not being a violation of international law, but I'm no expert so I cant say for sure
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Saddam flouted 17 UN Resolutions, if you are counting. He also violated the terms of the cease fire agreement from the Gulf War.

Of course, that doesn't seem to bother the Libs.
What bothers those who are not hell bent on death and destruction is that the reasons given by the Dub to garner our support for his ill advised excellent adventure into Iraq have not be borne out. On top of that the occupation seems not to have been very well planed and looks to become a quagmire which will cost Americans billions of dollars and untold loss of life, many of them American servicemen!

 

shiner

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Originally posted by: GrGr
You fail to see the point. The point is if Bush broke the UN Charter he broke US law. The UN charter is part of the supreme law of the land. If President Bush broke the supreme law of the land he is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanours.
The UN Charter is not....I repeat NOT part of the "supreme law of the land" for the United States. Oh the UN and some of the far left libbies would like it to be, but that is not the case.

 

Genx87

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The United Nations secretary general, Kofi Annan, declared explicitly for the first time last night that the US-led war on Iraq was illegal

Who said this?

Hahahahahahahaha

btw can we have the free tuition this pos got from us back? Go sell some more hotdogs. It is about the only thing this dimwit is capable of.

 

Genx87

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the only reason the UN lacks any credibility is that the bully US, won't agree with it for any reason. Yet we will invade countries that we say aren't in compliance with UN resolutions. USA, land of hypocracy.

What a simple world some of us live in.

A. 2 genocides in Sudan
B. Nothing about Iraqi non-compliance of its agreements
C. Sierre Leone
D. Somalia
E. Oil for Food Scandal
F. Yugoslavia

Face it the organization lacks credibility because it brings it upon itself. I am all for pulling out of the UN. The other countries can figure out where to house them and make up the 28% of the UN budget we payout every year.

 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Czar
DashRiprock,
I have said this probably about hundred times on the forum. UN wording for authorizing military action is "any means necisery" not "serious consiquences"


UN resolution 1441 recalls resoultion 687 which is the ceasefire agreement between Iraq and Kuwait. Iraq is in violation of 687 which means the ceasefire agreement is broken and thus war will resume.

War on.