Iraq war counter-rally = pwned!

[DealMonkey]

Boy, with all the fervor around here and over at freeper central about "answering" the anti-war movement, only a few hundred could get off their asses and off their computers long enough to go rally. Sad and pathetic really -- the poor SOBs most know they're in the extreme minority now.

Defenders of Iraq war counter-rally
Smaller-than-expected gathering follows anti-war protest

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Support for U.S. troops fighting abroad mixed with anger toward anti-war demonstrators at home as hundreds of people, far fewer than organizers had expected, rallied Sunday on the National Mall just a day after tens of thousands protested against the war in Iraq.

"No matter what your ideals are, our sons and daughters are fighting for our freedom," said Marilyn Faatz, who drove from New Jersey to attend the rally. "We are making a mockery out of this. And we need to stand united, but we are not."

About 400 people gathered near a stage on an eastern segment of the mall, a large patchwork American flag serving as a backdrop. Amid banners and signs proclaiming support for U.S. troops, several speakers hailed the effort to bring democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan and denounced those who protest it.

Many demonstrators focused their ire at Cindy Sheehan, the California woman whose protest near President Bush's Texas home last summer galvanized the anti-war movement.

Sheehan was among the speakers at Saturday's rally near the Washington Monument on the western part of the mall, an event that attracted an estimated 100,000 people. (Full story)

"The group who spoke here the other day did not represent the American ideals of freedom, liberty and spreading that around the world," Sen. Jeff Sessions, an Alabama Republican, told the crowd. "I frankly don't know what they represent, other than to blame America first."

One sign on the mall read "Cindy Sheehan doesn't speak for me" and another "Arrest the traitors"; it listed Sheehan's name first among several people who have spoken against the war.

Melody Vigna, 44, of Linden, California, said she wants nothing to do with Sheehan and others at nearby Camp Casey, an anti-war site set up to honor her son, Casey, who was killed in Iraq.

"Our troops are over there fighting for our rights, and if she was in one of those countries she would not be able to do that," Vigna said.

The husband of Sherri Francescon, 24, of Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, serves in the Marine Corps in Iraq. One of the many military wives who spoke during the rally, Francescon said that the anti-war demonstration had left her frustrated.

"I know how much my husband does and how hard he works, and I feel like they don't even recognize that and give him the respect he deserves," Francescon said. "I want him to know and I want his unit to know that America is behind them; Cindy doesn't speak for us, and that we believe in what they are doing."

Organizers of Sunday's demonstration acknowledged that their rally would be much smaller than the anti-war protest but had hoped that as many as 20,000 people would turn out.

On Saturday, demonstrators opposed to the war in Iraq surged past the White House in the largest anti-war protest in the nation's capital since the U.S. invasion in March 2003. The rally stretched through the night, a marathon of music, speechmaking and dissent on the mall.

National polls have found steadily declining support for the war in Iraq, with a majority of Americans now believing the war was a mistake.

In an AP-Ipsos poll this month, only 37 percent approved or leaned toward approval of how Bush has handled the situation in Iraq; strong disapproval outweighed strong approval by 2-1, 46 percent to 22 percent.

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[RabidMongoose]

No matter what your ideals are, our sons and daughters are fighting for our freedom

How exactly is someone 'fighting for my freedom' while fighting in Iraq? Such a comment is mere sewage spewed out by others...

 

[conjur]

The pictures were quite pathetic.

And their signs? :roll:

 

[DealMonkey]

Not only are they fighting for your freedom, they're waging war for peace!

 

[RabidMongoose]

Our troops are over there fighting for our rights

Oh. my. god. Where are they getting this from?! How is anyone protecting my rights in some foreign country thousands upon thousands of miles away? If you want to fight for my rights, then please fight against the Patriot Act or something like that, not some adventure that doesn't even matter to me.

I truly despise comments like this..

 

[GTaudiophile]

One sign on the mall read "Cindy Sheehan doesn't speak for me" and another "Arrest the traitors"; it listed Sheehan's name first among several people who have spoken against the war.

Amen! We need to try Sheehan for treason and make an example out of her for aiding the enemy.

 

[Dissipate]

One sign on the mall read "Cindy Sheehan doesn't speak for me" and another "Arrest the traitors"; it listed Sheehan's name first among several people who have spoken against the war.

Someone who doesn't support an insane war is a 'traitor' and should be arrested? Wow. Just goes to show how crazy the war supporters really are.

"Our troops are over there fighting for our rights, and if she was in one of those countries she would not be able to do that," Vigna said

Fighting for our rights? LMAO. That statement is so stupid it doesn't even need to be shown why. BTW what is the price tag of this 'fight for our rights' again?

In an AP-Ipsos poll this month, only 37 percent approved or leaned toward approval of how Bush has handled the situation in Iraq; strong disapproval outweighed strong approval by 2-1, 46 percent to 22 percent.

Bush and IRS to war protestors: "Shutup and continue to pay your war taxes."

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Our troops are over there fighting for our rights

Oh. my. god. Where are they getting this from?! How is anyone protecting my rights in some foreign country thousands upon thousands of miles away? If you want to fight for my rights, then please fight against the Patriot Act or something like that, not some adventure that doesn't even matter to me.

I truly despise comments like this..

"Freedom Isn't Free"

That's the bumper sticker I hate the most . Complete and utter jingoistic crap.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
One sign on the mall read "Cindy Sheehan doesn't speak for me" and another "Arrest the traitors"; it listed Sheehan's name first among several people who have spoken against the war.

Amen! We need to try Sheehan for treason and make an example out of her for aiding the enemy.

Slink on out of here over to Freeperville with the other brain-dead morans

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
One sign on the mall read "Cindy Sheehan doesn't speak for me" and another "Arrest the traitors"; it listed Sheehan's name first among several people who have spoken against the war.

Amen! We need to try Sheehan for treason and make an example out of her for aiding the enemy.

Are you really that deluded? Wowzers. I'm not a huge fan of Sheehan, but your statement is just insane.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Our troops are over there fighting for our rights

Oh. my. god. Where are they getting this from?! How is anyone protecting my rights in some foreign country thousands upon thousands of miles away? If you want to fight for my rights, then please fight against the Patriot Act or something like that, not some adventure that doesn't even matter to me.

I truly despise comments like this..

"Freedom Isn't Free"

That's the bumper sticker I hate the most . Complete and utter jingoistic crap.

Is that bumper sticker trying to connect Freedom for Americans to the Iraq disaster?

 

[raildogg]

there is no point of a country-rally!

so noone got pwned except the protestors who are protesting the Iraq which already happened!

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: raildogg
there is no point of a country-rally!

so noone got pwned except the protestors who are protesting the Iraq which already happened!

Ah, so because something that has already occured is spoken out against that those people are owned? I guess that there should never be an argument against anything that has "already happened" because they'll be owned....hmmmm...ok.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg
there is no point of a country-rally!

so noone got pwned except the protestors who are protesting the Iraq which already happened!

Ah, so because something that has already occured is spoken out against that those people are owned? I guess that there should never be an argument against anything that has "already happened" because they'll be owned....hmmmm...ok.

no, not always. but in this case, what ideas do these protestors have? what is their goal?

do they even have a point?

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg
there is no point of a country-rally!

so noone got pwned except the protestors who are protesting the Iraq which already happened!

Ah, so because something that has already occured is spoken out against that those people are owned? I guess that there should never be an argument against anything that has "already happened" because they'll be owned....hmmmm...ok.

no, not always. but in this case, what ideas do these protestors have? what is their goal?

do they even have a point?

Maybe their point is to keep the stupid PNAC types from trying it again? Maybe they want the troops home now (not a bad idea)? Maybe they want to expose that the war was a scam? Who knows but they certainly have a Constitutional right and they were certainly not owned.

The OP meaning "owned" was about the number of one vs another, nothing to do with their right to rally or protest.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Our troops are over there fighting for our rights

Oh. my. god. Where are they getting this from?! How is anyone protecting my rights in some foreign country thousands upon thousands of miles away? If you want to fight for my rights, then please fight against the Patriot Act or something like that, not some adventure that doesn't even matter to me.

I truly despise comments like this..

"Freedom Isn't Free"

That's the bumper sticker I hate the most . Complete and utter jingoistic crap.

Is that bumper sticker trying to connect Freedom for Americans to the Iraq disaster?

I believe so...I think it started out from the Afghanistan aspect but picked up the pace after Iraq.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
One sign on the mall read "Cindy Sheehan doesn't speak for me" and another "Arrest the traitors"; it listed Sheehan's name first among several people who have spoken against the war.

Amen! We need to try Sheehan for treason and make an example out of her for aiding the enemy.

It seems we need to send the National Guard over to your house ASAP to collect all of your weaponry and ammo. Please comply so the RNGs won't be forced to shoot you.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Amen! We need to try Sheehan for treason and make an example out of her for aiding the enemy.

I can't agree with trying her for treason, she has every right to speak her mind just like the rest of us.

But calling insurgents in Iraq "freedom fighters" certainly could be considered a treasonous statement.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Amen! We need to try Sheehan for treason and make an example out of her for aiding the enemy.

I can't agree with trying her for treason, she has every right to speak her mind just like the rest of us.

But calling insurgents in Iraq "freedom fighters" certainly could be considered a treasonous statement.

:roll:


Going to war over lies isn't?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Amen! We need to try Sheehan for treason and make an example out of her for aiding the enemy.

I can't agree with trying her for treason, she has every right to speak her mind just like the rest of us.

But calling insurgents in Iraq "freedom fighters" certainly could be considered a treasonous statement.

That's a pretty loose implementation of treason you have there. While I wouldn't call them freedom fighters, I don't see why one should be executed for making such a statement.

 

[Pabster]

I said her comments could be construed as treasonous, not that she ought to be tried for treason.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Amen! We need to try Sheehan for treason and make an example out of her for aiding the enemy.

Bush is an even better example.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
One sign on the mall read "Cindy Sheehan doesn't speak for me" and another "Arrest the traitors"; it listed Sheehan's name first among several people who have spoken against the war.

Amen! We need to try Sheehan for treason and make an example out of her for aiding the enemy.

Yeah, dissent is illegal. You wish.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
One sign on the mall read "Cindy Sheehan doesn't speak for me" and another "Arrest the traitors"; it listed Sheehan's name first among several people who have spoken against the war.

Amen! We need to try Sheehan for treason and make an example out of her for aiding the enemy.

Isn't it time you retired from childhood and moved on to prepubescent teenager? We need to slap a "Return to Iraq" sticker on your ass and ship you over to the Middle East.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Pabster
I said her comments could be construed as treasonous, not that she ought to be tried for treason.

Keep digging that hole.