Iraq submits weapon report.........

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MinorityReport

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Originally posted by: Gaard
So in the end it all boils down to "What's your definition of cheering?"...is that it?

Accept my apology. All this time I thought we were on the same page. The very beginning of this, when MadRat said something about SH paying with his life for cheering (and charrison agreeing with him) I was picturing cheering as in throwing one's fist in the air yelling "Yeee-haww!" My mistake.

Bedtime.

My friends in Pakistan and 1,000,000 others in Peshawar, Rawalpindi, Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi and Quetta cheered when WTC fell.

What you gonna do about it ?

They distributed sweets, had a huge namaz, fired crackers and shouted " Death to America". They felt elated for those 2-3 hours.

What you gonna do about it?

The best part is US is giving the same nation $1 billion in aid a year to help nab ALqueda.

LMAO > fooling US has been never so easy.

Dumbness has a limit ... Bush has crossed it .. or maybe they expect to discover huge petroleum deposits in Pakistan desert ...wonder days are here !

Saddam's removal will have NO effect on terrorism not even 0.000001%.

At least admit this and say the truth .. we need more oleum. Good enuff reason for this dictator to go .. and opf course 2004 primary.

Welcome to the Bush dynasty .......... fire in the bush time !!

 

bsd

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yep, the ends justify the means, when you have no moral center.

moonhead is saddams quiet worker

bsd is Anandtechs banned member
 

etech

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MinorityReport
My friends in Pakistan and 1,000,000 others in Peshawar, Rawalpindi, Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi and Quetta cheered when WTC fell.

What you gonna do about it ?

They distributed sweets, had a huge namaz, fired crackers and shouted " Death to America". They felt elated for those 2-3 hours.

What you gonna do about it?

First I would say that you need to find a better grade of friends that those as*sholes.

Second I am asking you. Did you also cheer as those 3000 people were dying, leaping to their deaths being burned alive?


bsd, Please add something useful to the thread or don't bother hitting the reply button.


psianime
im heading up to Canada if they draft gets reinstated... anyone want to join me?

One, the draft will not be needed. Two, please don't wait, go now. You are not needed or wanted in the U.S.. If you don't even have the balls to stand up and fight for what you believe in by protesting the war and administration, then go run away like the little coward that you are. Just please do it now. Your very presence here is an insult to not only the veterans who fought for this country but the legitimate protestors who have the courage of their convictions to stay and fight for what the believe is right.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: HendrixFan
Somebody please tell me why we dont give our "facts" about Iraq to the weapons inspectors so we dont have to play the waiting game.

Maybe they are waiting for the UN and the socialist-Euro community to tell the world that Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction and furthermore hoist Saddam on their shoulders while recommending him for a Nobel Peace Prize....then America can show the world how stupid some sheep are....

 

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Sleestak
Originally posted by: HendrixFan
Somebody please tell me why we dont give our "facts" about Iraq to the weapons inspectors so we dont have to play the waiting game.

Actually before the inspections even began we offered to give them intelligence we had gathered as well as live feeds from outr Predator drones as they flew over Iraqi sites and followed Iraq truck convoys as they left suspected weapons sites. The U.N. refused saying that would make it appear as if they were working for the U.S.

Hans Blix was also was about the 25th pick on the US list of who should be in charge of inspections.

Could have been worse, could have selected Ritter. I think he has already been bought and paid for.
 

hagbard

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Originally posted by: psianime
im heading up to Canada if they draft gets reinstated... anyone want to join me?

What makes you think we wouldn't get involved? If so, you'll just get thrown into the CND Armed Forces.



 

etech

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Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: bsd
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yep, the ends justify the means, when you have no moral center.

moonhead is saddams quiet worker

bsd is Anandtechs banned member



nice. :D


No, that is not nice. He may not have been contributing what anyone would have considered anything useful to this thread but he expressed his opinion. Is that all he got banned for? I could characterize being banned for expressing an opnion as a lot of things but "nice" is not the word I would use.
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: bsd
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yep, the ends justify the means, when you have no moral center.

moonhead is saddams quiet worker

bsd is Anandtechs banned member



nice. :D


No, that is not nice. He may not have been contributing what anyone would have considered anything useful to this thread but he expressed his opinion. Is that all he got banned for? I could characterize being banned for expressing an opnion as a lot of things but "nice" is not the word I would use.

I agree.

When did they start banning people just for useless, offtopic posts? If thats a new policy I can provide a LONG list of people who post useless posts.
El numero uno would be ME. Yes, thats right. I am the man. No one has as little knowledge as I do nor makes as completely useless posts as I do.

I am offended! If you are cleaning the stains off the carpet you have missed the biggest, stinkiest one in the room! ME!

How dare you sirs?

I demand to be banned at once.

edit: I have evidence of my guilt!
See this thread by moonbeam where I respond to his long, well thought out and written post
with a meaningless, qausi-insulting post of my own that contained little to no substance.
 

GroundZero

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Wow, imagine that. A government that apologizes for its mistakes. It'd be nice of others could follow suit.

if you believe this then you are seriously lacking in brain power.
that would be like believing that bush is for the environment...
or that the church is really sorry for rapist priests...
or they don't serve dog at the terriaki joint...
or that rap is real music...
or the moon is made of cheese...

 

charrison

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: bsd
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yep, the ends justify the means, when you have no moral center.

moonhead is saddams quiet worker

bsd is Anandtechs banned member



nice. :D


No, that is not nice. He may not have been contributing what anyone would have considered anything useful to this thread but he expressed his opinion. Is that all he got banned for? I could characterize being banned for expressing an opnion as a lot of things but "nice" is not the word I would use.


I have to agree here.
 

Gaard

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Does anyone know of a site that would have the transcript from todays press conference? I was watching it and just when that guy from NBC (I think his name is XXX Gregory) was asking Ari Fleischer about the evidence that we supposedly have I had to leave the room. Something about why do we have to take the time to go over the 12,000 page document submitted by Iraq when we already have evidence that they possess WMDs? It can't be to catch them in a lie (as has been suggested) because Iraq has already stated that they have no WMD and if all we wanted was to catch them in a lie we'd just reveal what we know and that's that (as they say).

Anyways, I was called away from the television and missed the answer. I was trying to listen to my wife with one ear and listen to the TV with the other, but it didn't work. ;) I'm very curious to know what thw White House's stance is on this matter, so if someone could point me to a site it'd be much appreciated. etech, you seem to be somewhat of a sleuth when it comes to looking stuff up on the internet, :) , any ideas?


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Nevermind. Found it

snipit...
<<Q The President has been so unequivocal in his laying out of his policy. The Iraqi government is coming up and saying, we have no weapons of mass destruction.

MR. FLEISCHER: You're asking why we don't have a conclusion based on the declaration yet?

Q I mean, does the government have the proof that, in fact, they do?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, as I indicated earlier, the President has said on numerous times, and so have other leaders -- and so have other previous administrations, interestingly -- they've made flat-out declarations that Iraq does possess biological --

Q Then why -- why do we have to go through the careful, methodical analysis?

MR. FLEISCHER: Because it's important to do what the United Nations is called on to do. And this is important. And the President believes in it and the international community believes.

Q But in an administration of moral clarity, why do we need all these niceties? If we have the goods, let's lay them on the table. Why do we need to go through a report that appears -- based on the bluntness of this President -- to be patently false?

MR. FLEISCHER: One, we have not made any conclusions about the declaration Iraq has given to us. We've only just received it.

Q Why? Why is the declaration different to the issue of whether they have weapons?

**No Answer**


So there you have it. The reasons finally revealed. "Because it is important to do what the UN is called to do."
 

Moonbeam

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Well I have to disagree on the bsd thingi. I hate to see somebody get banned for attacking people, me in particularly. Like my beloved Frances I am already so aware of my worthlessness that there's really nothing that can be insulted, but if all of our opinions run something like 'you're an AH' what value would a forum like this have as a place to exchange ideas. If I were paying to maintain a site like this, I would like there to be some value added. I think all bsd wanted to do was offend people. He can do that anywhere at his own expense.

Frances, we are both worthless, you just need to learn to be more modest about it. You get too big of an ego about it and you might forget. :D
 

Moonbeam

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Hehe, Gaard, How interesting that they should have asked that question. I posted this in another thread last night:

"KGO is reporting that last week the Bush admin has secret proof of WMD in Iraq and now that the report has been issued they are going to have to take some time to read it all to see if there are violations. Does that tell you that they have no secret evidence? It's a tuff one I know."
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If you got the goods why the charade?

Follow the UN. OK Now we find out they have all sorts of secret stuff too.
 

etech

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Moonie, it's a stupid question that anyone with any knowledge and without an agenda should be able to arrive at an answer.

As you are well aware the US only today received a copy of Iraq'a declaration of the weapons that they say they do not have. It is a document in two languages and comprised of around 12,000 pages. It will take time to see what they have declared and what they haven't. I don't think anyone could sit down and within a few hours decipher what is in the report.

As to why the U.S. does not immediately release the information they have, do you suppose that if they did that any traces of the infraction would be left at those sites by the time the inspectors could get to them to verify the information. You know it wouldn't. Saddam has a history of hiding his weapons programs. He has had since 1998 when the inspectors were last in Iraq to devise methods and places to hide his programs.

Now just so you can feel better you want the U.S. to just release all of the data they have been able to gather on Saddam's weapons programs so he can make it all disappear.







 

Moonbeam

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It would be sonderful if he could make it disappear. I think that's what he was supposed to do wasn't it?
 

etech

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No he was supposed to destroy them, not hide them in the desert until he feels the need to kill someone with them again.

 

Moonbeam

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Things hidden do not disappear. And actually the question was a sophisticated one if you do not have an agenda that blinds you to implications. Mot much isn't rationalizable.
 

Gaard

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If we disclosed today what we supposedly know, Iraq would hide it's weapons...right? Why would Iraq have less time to hide them if we disclosed the info next week (I'm talking figuratively as far as today and next week...you know what I mean)?
 

hagbard

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Originally posted by: Gaard
If we disclosed today what we supposedly know, Iraq would hide it's weapons...right? Why would Iraq have less time to hide them if we disclosed the info next week (I'm talking figuratively as far as today and next week...you know what I mean)?

You can't hide anything from Big Brother ;) f


fnord

 

MadRat

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Originally posted by: etech
No he was supposed to destroy them, not hide them in the desert until he feels the need to kill someone with them again.

His regime is not supposed to destroy them. They are to turn them over to the UN authorities. The UN would handle their destruction.

 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: MadRat
Originally posted by: etech
No he was supposed to destroy them, not hide them in the desert until he feels the need to kill someone with them again.

His regime is not supposed to destroy them. They are to turn them over to the UN authorities. The UN would handle their destruction.

Couldn't we go to the UN and tell them what evidence we have so that they could destroy them?