Iranian Revolution in 2022/2026?

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Pipeline 1010

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Fuck him and his father. I hope Iran wins its freedom, not subjugation under the western boot that led to Khomeni coming to power.
Shouldn't it be Iranians' choice? It seems like every single Iranian I know, and their family back in Iran, would prefer him over what they have now. Most of them would tell you that things weren't perfect under the Shah, but things were incomparably better than now. The education system, the economy, women's rights, gay rights, almost every individual thing you could measure was better under the Shah.

At what point do we decide to stop letting lack of perfection become the enemy of improvement? At what point do we listen to the actual people living under this shit and take their own words for it instead of condescendingly lecturing them on what they should think and feel about their own country?
 

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Shouldn't it be Iranians' choice? It seems like every single Iranian I know, and their family back in Iran, would prefer him over what they have now. Most of them would tell you that things weren't perfect under the Shah, but things were incomparably better than now. The education system, the economy, women's rights, gay rights, almost every individual thing you could measure was better under the Shah.

At what point do we decide to stop letting lack of perfection become the enemy of improvement? At what point do we listen to the actual people living under this shit and take their own words for it instead of condescendingly lecturing them on what they should think and feel about their own country?
Was it the Iranians choice when the CIA installed that piece of shit so BP could keep raping the nation out of its oil wealth? I'm sure they wanna be a colony of the west again. Fuck the shah and his kid, last thing Iran needs is Trump swooping in and putting them under the boot of another looting dictator like we have in the US.
 
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People were chanting in the streets to bring back the Shah. For all his failings at being a tyrant/dictator the economy was ok and thats the pressing point right now.

It seems that the ordinary people just don't care for the ideological war of Khamenei and his supporters. Certainly not at the cost of their livelihood. Its the economy stupid!
That got my attention as well. I'm thinking that there are probably paid agitators who will make noises about the shah (or maybe they could be agent provocateurs to turn the movement on itself) while ordinary people would probably burn the shah's son alive with Khamenei if given the chance.
 
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Shouldn't it be Iranians' choice? It seems like every single Iranian I know, and their family back in Iran, would prefer him over what they have now. Most of them would tell you that things weren't perfect under the Shah, but things were incomparably better than now. The education system, the economy, women's rights, gay rights, almost every individual thing you could measure was better under the Shah.

At what point do we decide to stop letting lack of perfection become the enemy of improvement? At what point do we listen to the actual people living under this shit and take their own words for it instead of condescendingly lecturing them on what they should think and feel about their own country?

I think something like 60% of Iran's present population never lived under the Shah who was deposed in 1979. This is sort of like me saying confidently that things were best under the Eisenhower administration. It's highly theoretical and typically filled with wishful thinking.

Reza Pahlavi doesn't really have the internal support required to rule anyway so it's basically irrelevant.
 

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That got my attention as well. I'm thinking that there are probably paid agitators who will make noises about the shah (or maybe they could be agent provocateurs to turn the movement on itself) while ordinary people would probably burn the shah's son alive with Khamenei if given the chance.

I think anger at the regime's mismanagement is surfacing in many different ways and not all of them make a lot of sense. Such is popular discontent.
 

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That got my attention as well. I'm thinking that there are probably paid agitators who will make noises about the shah (or maybe they could be agent provocateurs to turn the movement on itself) while ordinary people would probably burn the shah's son alive with Khamenei if given the chance.
Is more realistic that the army takes the power than the Shah
 

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Ohhh... he is done... really done.... completely dismissed the concerns of the protestors. Completely and utterly out of touch.
Speaking to supporters earlier this morning, Khamenei dismissed demonstrators as a "bunch of vandals" seeking to "please" US President Donald Trump.

In a video address broadcast on national TV, Khamenei said: "A bunch of vandals came out in Tehran and other places and destroyed buildings belonging to their own country just to please the president of the US.

"That’s because he made the absurd claim that he supports you rioters and people who are harmful to the country. If he’s capable, he should run his own country."

The Iranian leader, who has been in power since 1989, added that Trump's hands "are stained with blood of more than a thousand Iranian martyred during the 12-day war [with Israel]".

"A group of inexperienced and careless people believe him and act according to his wishes. They set fire to rubbish bins to please him," he adds.
From https://www.bbc.com/news/live/clyzjn0w9l2t
 

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Have feeling this may end up with the military facing off with revolutionary guard in the end. And eventually with Khamenei joining Bashar Assad in exile in Russia. I hope he takes the "cut and cut clean" approach Reagan gave to Marcos in th Philippines revolution in 1986
 

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Have feeling this may end up with the military facing off with revolutionary guard in the end. And eventually with Khamenei joining Bashar Assad in exile in Russia. I hope he takes the "cut and cut clean" approach Reagan gave to Marcos in th Philippines revolution in 1986
I hope they cut his head clean off
 

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Have feeling this may end up with the military facing off with revolutionary guard in the end. And eventually with Khamenei joining Bashar Assad in exile in Russia. I hope he takes the "cut and cut clean" approach Reagan gave to Marcos in th Philippines revolution in 1986

If I'm an 86yo autocrat presiding over a failing rule that could see me strung up any day yeah I'd think it's time to go retire in Qatar.
 

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Not Qatar, lol (home of USAF Central Command, Udeid Air Base). He has much closer ties to Putin and Russians than any gulf sheikdom.

Iranian dictator Khamenei is strongly considering fleeing to Russia in the coming days

Qataris are very close to the regime. If they took him in exile the US would not do anything about it.

Remember how ballistic Trump went on Netanyahu that he struck Qatar? So much that he literally made Bibi call them from the Oval Office to apologize right in front of him? Nah if he peaced out to Doha to live out his days we'd be fine with it.
 

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If I'm an 86yo autocrat presiding over a failing rule that could see me strung up any day yeah I'd think it's time to go retire in Qatar.
I don't believe Khamenei would ever leave Iran voluntarily. I hope the people now rebelling succeed but . . . onlookers should remember that the Iranian Rev. Guards are, by far, the strongest armed force in Iran and they are ideologically driven true believers, not to mention the fact that it is in their own personal self-interest to slaughter enough civilians to quell any revolt. Bloody times ahead, my friends.
 

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I don't believe Khamenei would ever leave Iran voluntarily. I hope the people now rebelling succeed but . . . onlookers should remember that the Iranian Rev. Guards are, by far, the strongest armed force in Iran and they are ideologically driven true believers, not to mention the fact that it is in their own personal self-interest to slaughter enough civilians to quell any revolt. Bloody times ahead, my friends.

If I was him I'd be more worried about other figures in the regime looking to advance and give the public my head on a plate to placate their anger.
 

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Not Qatar, lol (home of USAF Central Command, Udeid Air Base). He has much closer ties to Putin and Russians than any gulf sheikdom.

Iranian dictator Khamenei is strongly considering fleeing to Russia in the coming days
From your link:

"Despite the magnitude of the mobilizations, Khamenei has publicly downplayed the protests and has promised to suppress them harshly, stating that he will put the demonstrators "in their place." International observers and human rights organizations have warned that this rhetoric foreshadows a possible escalation of repression."
 

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From your link:

"Despite the magnitude of the mobilizations, Khamenei has publicly downplayed the protests and has promised to suppress them harshly, stating that he will put the demonstrators "in their place." International observers and human rights organizations have warned that this rhetoric foreshadows a possible escalation of repression."
Sounds typical of dictators who want to be perceived as still powerful enough to overcome the challenge. Of course he would say that, lol. But he's got to have a backup plan if things go further south, ie, exile.
 

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Agreed. but also escape contingency plans are always planned for. It does not mean Khamenei is presently condsidering an escape.
 

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Agreed. but also escape contingency plans are always planned for. It does not mean Khamenei is presently condsidering an escape.
Yes, I thought that was understood. He could be battling his people for another year for all we know. But he still had to make preparatory arrangements and not wait to the last minute to consider exile.
 

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... onlookers should remember that the Iranian Rev. Guards are, by far, the strongest armed force in Iran and they are ideologically driven true believers, not to mention the fact that it is in their own personal self-interest to slaughter enough civilians to quell any revolt.
I think any supporter of the regime have had their belief shaken in the last few years due to massive corruption scandals. Here is just one - a nice juicy banking scandal;
Up to 1.3 quadrillion rials ($1.21bn) was given to a small number of individuals and firms directly linked with Ayandeh and its internal projects, according to the central bank. Authorities have refused to reveal the identities of the people and entities who took the money.

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Bijan Khajehpour, an economist and a managing partner at Eurasian Nexus Partners consulting firm, pointed out that all Iranian banks have a large volume of non-performing loans (NPL) in their books.

“These NPLs are a consequence of loans having been extended to customers without the due process of assessing their collateral based on corrupt transactions between networks of power,” he told Al Jazeera.

“It says a lot about the extent of corruption and how political patronage undermines business activities.”
From https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...potlight-as-iran-dissolves-major-private-bank

There are also scandals involving family members of the courts in regards to export trading during the latest era of sanctions started by Trump.
 

DZero

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A civil war is extremely likely to happen. SImilar what happened to Syria and maybe Irak might get affected too
 

GodisanAtheist

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Good riddance. If the Iranian people can overthrow the Ayatollahs it will be a great day.

Maybe the old tangerine can nab Khameni in the middle of the night too if someone close to him is sick of his shit.