Iranian Guantanamo Drama

[imported_dna]

video

Wow.... this was a long one...

Seems like the top guys in Iran won't miss a chance to demonize, while brainwashing the population.

Naturally, a Jew is behind all of it.

Well, as if the chanting ("Death to America") and demonizing wasn't enough, now an Iranian general calls the US troops cowards:

We don't see any motivation among the American forces in Iraq. They are very cowardly. There are even scenes from Iraq in which they are seen crying. When their commanders encounter a problem, they burst into tears. We did not see such spectacles in the eight years of the Iran-Iraq war. I can therefore say that our advantage over the foreign forces is moral and human.

Remarkable -- those guys have a moral advantage after sending children to clear mine fields during the war with Iraq.

Funny how these things aren't in the media. Oh, well, back to political corectness everybody.

 

[postmortemIA]

What else do you expect from them? The religion of peace is worse disease than AIDS.

 

[Rainsford]

I guess I don't see a big difference between their propaganda and ours. For example, look at the second post in this thread...essentially the American counterpart to chanting "Death to America" and burning an American flag with a few hundred of your fellow psychos. The ranting lunatics on their side are of course a problem, and that problem is being compounded by the fact that the ranting lunatics on OUR side are gaining an increasingly loud voice.

 

[postmortemIA]

Sorry, you can't compare USA to a islamic dictatorship. Lunatics here don't stone people, they don't blow themselves, they don't claim that holocaust never happened. Etc. I could write a chapter about difference.

 

[fornax]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Sorry, you can't compare USA to a islamic dictatorship. Lunatics here don't stone people, they don't blow themselves, they don't claim that holocaust never happened. Etc. I could write a chapter about difference.

To give you a hand, here is some text for your chapter:

- the lunatics here think that executing retarded 16-17 years olds is natural and god's law

- the lunatics here don't think they need to count how many Iraqis they have liberated by killing them.

- the lunatics here deny that they torture prisoners with the same fervor that Iran denies the holocaust

I could write a whole chapter about it...

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Sorry, you can't compare USA to a islamic dictatorship. Lunatics here don't stone people, they don't blow themselves, they don't claim that holocaust never happened. Etc. I could write a chapter about difference.

I am not comparing America to Islamic dictatorship, I'm comparing YOU to Islamic radicals...and I think it's a very apt comparison, even if your actions are different. The OP was complaining about "Death to America" chanting and yet the very first reply was a blanket statement that a religion practiced by over a billion people around the word is "a disease worse than AIDS". Sorry, I don't see a real fundamental difference between you and the "Death to America" crowd except the target of your irrational rage.

 

[compnovice]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Sorry, you can't compare USA to a islamic dictatorship. Lunatics here don't stone people, they don't blow themselves, they don't claim that holocaust never happened. Etc. I could write a chapter about difference.

I am not comparing America to Islamic dictatorship, I'm comparing YOU to Islamic radicals...and I think it's a very apt comparison, even if your actions are different. The OP was complaining about "Death to America" chanting and yet the very first reply was a blanket statement that a religion practiced by over a billion people around the word is "a disease worse than AIDS". Sorry, I don't see a real fundamental difference between you and the "Death to America" crowd except the target of your irrational rage.

I couldn't agree more...

 

[postmortemIA]

Billion, million or thousand blind followers make no difference! The size of religion is just a statistics. It is not like religion is rational thing that you can rationalize with numbers. Beside, there were many posts on here discussing the religion of peace, no need to re-iterate.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Sorry, you can't compare USA to a islamic dictatorship. Lunatics here don't stone people, they don't blow themselves, they don't claim that holocaust never happened. Etc. I could write a chapter about difference.

Islamic dictatorship ? Iran is a republic ( a theocratic republic but a republic known the less ) which elects it's leaders. Not to mention the fact that to have a dictatorship you need one person and only one person running the country. You can't have a dictatorship if people keep electing different presidents over and over again. If you'd of called Iran a Islamic theocracy that uses principals of a republic then you'd be correct. If you'd of called Iran a example of what happens if you let social conservatives with a religous agenda into government then you'd also be correct. If you'd of said that Iran is a prime example of failed US policies and meddling in the region that created a large opening for social religous conservatives ( aka radicals ) to gain a foot hold then you'd be correct.

Part of the problem IMHO is that we Americans are so clueless in regards to the issues we face ( along with the foreign polices that help create, encourage or neglected those issues ) which causes even more problems in the end because of that ignorance. To bad Iran isn't more liberal like many European nations then we wouldn't be having this discussions. Or if the clerics were more US friendly then we'd turn a blind eye to their human rights violation like we did in Iraq pre-GW1, China, Vietnam, Pakistan, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and like we did with Central and South America right wing dictators. As long as we could secure our economical and military interests in the region and not worry about Iran trying to secure their own economical and military interests in direct competition or own goals.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: dna
video

Wow.... this was a long one...

Seems like the top guys in Iran won't miss a chance to demonize, while brainwashing the population.

Naturally, a Jew is behind all of it.

Well, as if the chanting ("Death to America") and demonizing wasn't enough, now an Iranian general calls the US troops cowards:

We don't see any motivation among the American forces in Iraq. They are very cowardly. There are even scenes from Iraq in which they are seen crying. When their commanders encounter a problem, they burst into tears. We did not see such spectacles in the eight years of the Iran-Iraq war. I can therefore say that our advantage over the foreign forces is moral and human.

Remarkable -- those guys have a moral advantage after sending children to clear mine fields during the war with Iraq.

Funny how these things aren't in the media. Oh, well, back to political corectness everybody.

Iran's statement has a footing on something and I'll explain. We, as a whole- as a country, have not shown the willingness to do what is necessary to win a war since WW2. Our failures in rebuilding Iraq are something they are very proud of, and are eager to exploit this weakness in the upcoming war.

Their morale advantage is obvious, they intend to kill us and be the last man standing. They will do everything that they need along the way, while we could destroy Iran in a heart beat; we are simply NOT willing to do it. They view that as a weakness, as a sign to strike while we are weak.

Their statement is their way of explaining that, along with the typical morale boosting rhetoric.

 

[International Machine Consortium]

Originally posted by: dna
video

Wow.... this was a long one...

Seems like the top guys in Iran won't miss a chance to demonize, while brainwashing the population.

Naturally, a Jew is behind all of it.

Well, as if the chanting ("Death to America") and demonizing wasn't enough, now an Iranian general calls the US troops cowards:

We don't see any motivation among the American forces in Iraq. They are very cowardly. There are even scenes from Iraq in which they are seen crying. When their commanders encounter a problem, they burst into tears. We did not see such spectacles in the eight years of the Iran-Iraq war. I can therefore say that our advantage over the foreign forces is moral and human.

Remarkable -- those guys have a moral advantage after sending children to clear mine fields during the war with Iraq.

Funny how these things aren't in the media. Oh, well, back to political corectness everybody.

Blame it on Bush. He's wasting our capital everywhere. That's what happens when we start phony, unnecessary wars. You make people want to demonize you. They ARE part of the axis of evil. Self fulfilling prophecy.

 

[International Machine Consortium]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: dna
video

Wow.... this was a long one...

Seems like the top guys in Iran won't miss a chance to demonize, while brainwashing the population.

Naturally, a Jew is behind all of it.

Well, as if the chanting ("Death to America") and demonizing wasn't enough, now an Iranian general calls the US troops cowards:

We don't see any motivation among the American forces in Iraq. They are very cowardly. There are even scenes from Iraq in which they are seen crying. When their commanders encounter a problem, they burst into tears. We did not see such spectacles in the eight years of the Iran-Iraq war. I can therefore say that our advantage over the foreign forces is moral and human.

Remarkable -- those guys have a moral advantage after sending children to clear mine fields during the war with Iraq.

Funny how these things aren't in the media. Oh, well, back to political corectness everybody.

Iran's statement has a footing on something and I'll explain. We, as a whole- as a country, have not shown the willingness to do what is necessary to win a war since WW2. Our failures in rebuilding Iraq are something they are very proud of, and are eager to exploit this weakness in the upcoming war.

Their morale advantage is obvious, they intend to kill us and be the last man standing. They will do everything that they need along the way, while we could destroy Iran in a heart beat; we are simply NOT willing to do it. They view that as a weakness, as a sign to strike while we are weak.

Their statement is their way of explaining that, along with the typical morale boosting rhetoric.

Desert Storm went quite well. It stayed within the mandate and achieved what was necessary.
Not to mention Boznia. Libya. Ya just gotta be smart about applying the power. With the Repubs we have strong and dumb. What we need is strong and smart.

Next!

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium
Blame it on Bush. He's wasting our capital everywhere. That's what happens when we start phony, unnecessary wars. You make people want to demonize you. They ARE part of the axis of evil. Self fulfilling prophecy.

Are you asserting that there was no anti-USA propaganda in Iran prior to 2003, or even 2001?

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I guess I don't see a big difference between their propaganda and ours. For example, look at the second post in this thread...essentially the American counterpart to chanting "Death to America" and burning an American flag with a few hundred of your fellow psychos. The ranting lunatics on their side are of course a problem, and that problem is being compounded by the fact that the ranting lunatics on OUR side are gaining an increasingly loud voice.

I do see a difference, we can vote the lunatics out in this country. Those people you see chanting death to America and burning the flag are government approved and sanctioned, they don't just go do it on their own like the protests here.

As for the ranting lunatics on our side, no matter how offensive, as long as they don't promote violence or cause violence let them be, to take away their freedom to do so is to take away your freedom too.