Iranian conjoined twins die shortly after surgery

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: NFS4
After living together for 30 years, you'd think they'd be used to it by now. I would have just stayed joined and said "fvck dying"

Besides, after being seperated, they'd likely have a MASSIVE case of the "Phantom Limb Syndrome"

If you'd spent almost 30 years of your life wishing you could live a normal life, I think I'd take the risk too.

Besides, after spending literally every single moment together they were probably sick of each other.

Very sad though, I really wanted to see it work.



Viper GTS

Normal is a relative term. I'm not saying that their life was all peachy, but it was better than death. To me, there was just TOO much risk involved with this sort of operation.

If someone gave me 50/50 odds on an operation to correct something that was NOT life threatening, I'd pass

some people think a life without freedom is not worth living.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: NFS4
After living together for 30 years, you'd think they'd be used to it by now. I would have just stayed joined and said "fvck dying"

Besides, after being seperated, they'd likely have a MASSIVE case of the "Phantom Limb Syndrome"

If you'd spent almost 30 years of your life wishing you could live a normal life, I think I'd take the risk too.

Besides, after spending literally every single moment together they were probably sick of each other.

Very sad though, I really wanted to see it work.



Viper GTS

Normal is a relative term. I'm not saying that their life was all peachy, but it was better than death. To me, there was just TOO much risk involved with this sort of operation.

If someone gave me 50/50 odds on an operation to correct something that was NOT life threatening, I'd pass

I dunno man, I'd rather be dead than be in joined at the head. But it's still sad about these two girls.

On a happy note, there have been other operations of Siamese twins that have been successful!

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

some people think a life without freedom is not worth living.

That would be quite a few people.

BTW, 0roo0roo...the girl from the drunk driving accident in your sig is now living here in my town.

Local news interviewed her the other day. Very strong-willed person who maybe redefines what we normally think of as freedom (on a physical level). She can no longer do her favorite thing, dancing, as what's left of her skin doesn't allow her to sweat so she can't do anything strenuous.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
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They will forever be known for their courage but sad nonetheless.

 

[Ime]

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: NFS4
After living together for 30 years, you'd think they'd be used to it by now. I would have just stayed joined and said "fvck dying" Besides, after being seperated, they'd likely have a MASSIVE case of the "Phantom Limb Syndrome"

No kidding.

Besides - conjoinedtwinnakedwebcam.com is available. Turn a negative into a positive.

 

[Aquaman]

RIP

Condolenses,
Aquaman

 

[Thump553]

I heard a brief interview by the two girls on TV before the operation. They were very well spoken (in English) and made it quite clear they were fully aware of the very high degree of risk involved to one or both. They very much wanted to do the operation, for much the same reasons NFS4 said.

God bless them, I say. Its too bad the operation failed-it was high risk, having never been successfully done before. I probably would have made the same decision had I been in their place and will not criticize their decision or quibble as to what a normal life is.

Hopefully at least medical science was advanced by what they learned in this operation.

 

[nemesismk2]

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[Smolek]

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: NFS4
After living together for 30 years, you'd think they'd be used to it by now. I would have just stayed joined and said "fvck dying"

Besides, after being seperated, they'd likely have a MASSIVE case of the "Phantom Limb Syndrome"

If you'd spent almost 30 years of your life wishing you could live a normal life, I think I'd take the risk too.

Besides, after spending literally every single moment together they were probably sick of each other.

Very sad though, I really wanted to see it work.



Viper GTS

Normal is a relative term. I'm not saying that their life was all peachy, but it was better than death. To me, there was just TOO much risk involved with this sort of operation.

If someone gave me 50/50 odds on an operation to correct something that was NOT life threatening, I'd pass

If you want something bad enough you'll put it all on the line in order to get it. They knew death was a very likely outcome of the surgery but they risked it in order to become "free". How do you know their life was better than death? If they went through with the surgery knowing the outcome, obviously something had to have sucked in order to risk death.

 

[sandorski]

 

[FracturedSoul]

Being the first time this has occurred with twins this old there was some serious thinking on the fly going on. The doctors all did their best but were caught out and adapted as they continued the operation. Now the good news to come from this is should another conjoined twin decide this route some of the hurdles will be expected and possibly better dealt with.

 

[V00DOO]

I saw them on CNN all happy about the seperation and now they are dead. Sad indeed.

 

[slycat]

OK, here's the in-scoop..
my sister and her husband are both nurses in singapore...he works for SGH(singapore general hospital).
The hoopla is they turned down the offer to do it at SGH and went priv instead. Its actually not a
good move coz in singapore, the MOST resourceful medical facility is the government facility, not the priv one.
Anyways, my bro-in-law was on duty in the ER and it seems those bozos at RafflesHosp actually called several times
and even last minute asking for supplies which they DID NOT get. I dunno the full details and i doubt it would have
helped very much but they were not well stocked it seems. Since the Iranian govt was paying, why they didn't do it
in the US is beyond me...

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Er, from what I've read the $300,000 from the Iranian gov. was just post-op care. The docs were doing it pro bono.

I doubt that the facility was any worse off than any of the best hospitals in the US. Doubt the location had anything to do with it. The best surgeons in the world were on the team. Don't think there are really any fingers to point.

Unfortunate indeed. Heard it on the news at dinner and was really disappointed.

 

[nan0bug]

SFW

 

[clicknext]

sad, but I sure wasn't surprised...

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: NFS4
After living together for 30 years, you'd think they'd be used to it by now. I would have just stayed joined and said "fvck dying"

Besides, after being seperated, they'd likely have a MASSIVE case of the "Phantom Limb Syndrome"

If you'd spent almost 30 years of your life wishing you could live a normal life, I think I'd take the risk too.

Besides, after spending literally every single moment together they were probably sick of each other.

Very sad though, I really wanted to see it work.



Viper GTS

Normal is a relative term. I'm not saying that their life was all peachy, but it was better than death. To me, there was just TOO much risk involved with this sort of operation.

If someone gave me 50/50 odds on an operation to correct something that was NOT life threatening, I'd pass

What if the person attached to your head was Wduaqnug?

 

[hdeck]

sad to hear

 

[50]

 

[oniq]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: NFS4
After living together for 30 years, you'd think they'd be used to it by now. I would have just stayed joined and said "fvck dying"

Besides, after being seperated, they'd likely have a MASSIVE case of the "Phantom Limb Syndrome"

If you'd spent almost 30 years of your life wishing you could live a normal life, I think I'd take the risk too.

Besides, after spending literally every single moment together they were probably sick of each other.

Very sad though, I really wanted to see it work.



Viper GTS

Normal is a relative term. I'm not saying that their life was all peachy, but it was better than death. To me, there was just TOO much risk involved with this sort of operation.

If someone gave me 50/50 odds on an operation to correct something that was NOT life threatening, I'd pass

What if the person attached to your head was Wduaqnug?

There'd be no more posting by Wduaqnug if so

 

[LakerGod]

 

I sympathise with the twins. However, I somewhat agree with NFS4. As someone (Conjur?) else said, not too many people choose the concept of "freedom" [as we grasp it] over existence. And rightfully, the meaning of "normal" was questioned. I'm not sure we'll all agree about the definition or attribute. Nevertheless, I think we can be certain about something: Life experiences of most people whom we think are in die suffering is not as measurable as we think. We use our personal experiences, which in our case tends to be a much better life experience, consisting of luxury, to measure up that of someone else in another part of the world and with a different background. The truth is, if you grow up in suffering and are surrounded by people just like you, you will eventually adjust--particularly for as long as you can get bread to eat at the end of the day. The people who are usually willing to give up life for freedom are the revolutionists and non-conformists. They aren't very many.

It's possible that in spite of the warning they got of a 50/50 chance they took things for granted with the publicity and the famous, top doctors who would operate on them. Perhaps they measured their chances as having increased therefore. On the other hand, what may have made life much difficult for the twins and made them willing to make the sacrifices was the type of society they were in and knew. I couldn't imagine them not experiencing teases, harassment, exclusions, etc. If they lived in a different type of society, such as the USA, just maybe they would have come to accept what they had and decided it wasn't worth the risk. It reminds me of the twins Katie and I forget the other's name in the USA . . . they were conjoined on the head too. As far as I know they are still active and enjoying life. Yes they go through inconveniences, but it isn't like it disturbs them everyday. And they both had different career plans. Then there were those two brothers that Jerry Springer had as regular guests (of course this was before Jerry lost it completely with his staged fights. LOL). I forget where the conjoining occurred.

P.S.: How's the government paying such huge sum? :Q Is it coming from personal pockets of the officials or what? Or does the Iranian government offer free healthcare (i.e., a socialist system)?

 

[KeyserSoze]

This is sad indeed.

It would have been so awesome to see them seperated just walking around enjoying their lives as TRUE individuals.





KeyserSoze