Iranian conjoined twins die shortly after surgery

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Lifer
Oct 10, 2000
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Sad story. I heard it on the news this morning. I was hoping they would both make it though this.. :(
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Was going to post this earlier this morning but the site was down.

Sad news.

:(
 

NFS4

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Oct 9, 1999
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After living together for 30 years, you'd think they'd be used to it by now. I would have just stayed joined and said "fvck dying"

Besides, after being seperated, they'd likely have a MASSIVE case of the "Phantom Limb Syndrome"
 

Viper GTS

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Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: NFS4
After living together for 30 years, you'd think they'd be used to it by now. I would have just stayed joined and said "fvck dying"

Besides, after being seperated, they'd likely have a MASSIVE case of the "Phantom Limb Syndrome"

If you'd spent almost 30 years of your life wishing you could live a normal life, I think I'd take the risk too.

Besides, after spending literally every single moment together they were probably sick of each other.

Very sad though, I really wanted to see it work.

:(

Viper GTS
 

Lucky

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Nov 26, 2000
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Sad. :(

On a side note, anyone read how much the operation cost or who was paying for it?
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: NFS4
After living together for 30 years, you'd think they'd be used to it by now. I would have just stayed joined and said "fvck dying"

Besides, after being seperated, they'd likely have a MASSIVE case of the "Phantom Limb Syndrome"

If you'd spent almost 30 years of your life wishing you could live a normal life, I think I'd take the risk too.

Besides, after spending literally every single moment together they were probably sick of each other.

Very sad though, I really wanted to see it work.

:(

Viper GTS

Normal is a relative term. I'm not saying that their life was all peachy, but it was better than death. To me, there was just TOO much risk involved with this sort of operation.

If someone gave me 50/50 odds on an operation to correct something that was NOT life threatening, I'd pass
 

WhiteKnight

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I saw some stuff before the surgery and apparently they were willing to undergo the procedure even though they understood the 50/50 risk. I also heard that adult conjoined twins have never been successfully separated. That must be a pretty hard blow to Ben Carson (the Dr). I've spoken with him before and he is an incredibly talented man. I guess some comfort can be found that at least the surgery was performed by some of the best doctors in the world, so at least it eliminates a few of the "what ifs".
 

DarkManXY2G

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It was very sad to read about this story. I just saw them on the news last night and I hoped it would be successful. Also I was wondering why the surgery was not done in the US, is Singapore better at this than we are? I just remember that those 2 kids were seperated not too long ago and they made it. any ideas?
 

shiner

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Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: NFS4
After living together for 30 years, you'd think they'd be used to it by now. I would have just stayed joined and said "fvck dying"

Besides, after being seperated, they'd likely have a MASSIVE case of the "Phantom Limb Syndrome"

If you'd spent almost 30 years of your life wishing you could live a normal life, I think I'd take the risk too.

Besides, after spending literally every single moment together they were probably sick of each other.

Very sad though, I really wanted to see it work.

:(

Viper GTS

Normal is a relative term. I'm not saying that their life was all peachy, but it was better than death. To me, there was just TOO much risk involved with this sort of operation.

If someone gave me 50/50 odds on an operation to correct something that was NOT life threatening, I'd pass
How do you know their lives were better than death? Who knows what kind of pain they were in daily. I'm not saying that their death is a good thing, just that until one of us has been in their shoes we cannot know what their lives were like or condemn their actions.

 

guyver01

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Sep 25, 2000
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According to some reports i've read, they were beginning to show signs of medical problems. One of the twins had constant massive migraines (due to the smaller size of her skull) and other medical problems were beginning to form.

They even stated that due to the fact they've had to compromise everything their entire life (when to wake up.. when to sleep.. when to go to the bathroom... what classes to take in school... what career to become) they were very willing to take the risk to become separate people... to know life as an individiual.

very sad.

 

Acanthus

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"The procedure was further complicated because the blood circulation between the twins was unstable. "

Sounds like the splitting of the single brain vein was what caused the surgery to fail.

They also commented on an enormous loss of blood to both patients.