'Iran will blow up the heart of Israel'

[Freshgeardude]

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cant make these things up.

Iran will "blow up the heart of Israel" if the United States or the Jewish state attacked it first, a top official with Iran's most powerful military force, the Revolutionary Guard, warned Friday.

Cleric Mojtaba Zolnour, who is the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's representative in the Guard, said that if a US or Israeli missile lands in Iran, Iranian missiles will hit Israel in retaliation.

"Should a single American or Zionist missile land in our country, before the dust settles, Iranian missiles will blow up the heart of Israel," Zolnour was quoted as saying by the state IRNA news agency.

In March, Iran's deputy army chief made similar remarks, warning that his country will eliminate Israel if it attacks the Islamic republic.

"Should Israel take any action against Iran, we will eliminate Israel from the scene of the universe," Gen. Muhammad Reza Ashtiani said at the time in Teheran.

Ashtiani claimed Israel was "very vulnerable" and dismissed allegations that Iran was worried about Israeli maneuvers.

"Due to its special conditions, Israel is very vulnerable in the region," he said. "The aggressors will face a crushing response."

Bold is my main concern here.

Apparently Iran is too ignorant to realize that the US is not an extension of Israel, or vise versa

I pretty much shows how much Iran hates Israel and wants to destroy IT no matter the circumstance.

The fact that they are already showing aggression towards Israel when the world wants to research their Nuclear capabilities and is already threatening with sanctions if they do not follow is something to take note of.

some of the people here try to make us think that the quote "death to israel" means "death to israel's government system" (not exact quote but that is the main point)


I want to keep in mind this is a news network from Israel, so it is partially biased in this case BUT quotes are quotes, you can not lie about those things.



I seriously hope that when/if the world (any country minus israel ( see older post as to why i dont want them to attack) attacks them, that they cripple any chance for them to retaliate on any country, especially israel if they have nothing to actually do with the attack.

it is possible, and I really hope not, that they might have a nuke in hiding waiting to be used once they are attacked so they can claim that it was "retaliation"

 

[JSt0rm]

well...if we attack them they will attack us. It sounds like normal human behavior.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
well...if we attack them they will attack us. It sounds like normal human behavior.

Ditto.

It's pretty simple; don't attack them, they won't attack us.

 

[ayabe]

"Apparently Iran is too ignorant to realize that the US is not an extension of Israel, or vise versa "

Up until recently we were an extension of Israel and have been for many years.

Aside from that I think you need to take a step back, one thing, we and/or the Israeli's either directly or indirectly threaten to bomb Iran just about everyday.

This guy was spouting off patriotic nonsense just like our Congress people do whenever someone brings up Iran.

Yeah, if Israel or the US bombs Iran preemptively, that will be a cause for war and Iran will retaliate, that is common sense.

No where in this statement is there any threat real or imagined, he's just saying don't bomb us, or shit is coming down on you.

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
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cant make these things up.

Iran will "blow up the heart of Israel" if the United States or the Jewish state attacked it first, a top official with Iran's most powerful military force, the Revolutionary Guard, warned Friday.

Cleric Mojtaba Zolnour, who is the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's representative in the Guard, said that if a US or Israeli missile lands in Iran, Iranian missiles will hit Israel in retaliation.

"Should a single American or Zionist missile land in our country, before the dust settles, Iranian missiles will blow up the heart of Israel," Zolnour was quoted as saying by the state IRNA news agency.

In March, Iran's deputy army chief made similar remarks, warning that his country will eliminate Israel if it attacks the Islamic republic.

"Should Israel take any action against Iran, we will eliminate Israel from the scene of the universe," Gen. Muhammad Reza Ashtiani said at the time in Teheran.

Ashtiani claimed Israel was "very vulnerable" and dismissed allegations that Iran was worried about Israeli maneuvers.

"Due to its special conditions, Israel is very vulnerable in the region," he said. "The aggressors will face a crushing response."

Bold is my main concern here.

Apparently Iran is too ignorant to realize that the US is not an extension of Israel, or vise versa

I pretty much shows how much Iran hates Israel and wants to destroy IT no matter the circumstance.

The fact that they are already showing aggression towards Israel when the world wants to research their Nuclear capabilities and is already threatening with sanctions if they do not follow is something to take note of.

some of the people here try to make us think that the quote "death to israel" means "death to israel's government system" (not exact quote but that is the main point)


I want to keep in mind this is a news network from Israel, so it is partially biased in this case BUT quotes are quotes, you can not lie about those things.



I seriously hope that when/if the world (any country minus israel ( see older post as to why i dont want them to attack) attacks them, that they cripple any chance for them to retaliate on any country, especially israel if they have nothing to actually do with the attack.

it is possible, and I really hope not, that they might have a nuke in hiding waiting to be used once they are attacked so they can claim that it was "retaliation"

How is this any different than from what any other country in the world would respond? You attack us we attack you. The world perception, like it or not, is that Israel is a vassal state of the US, especially when it comes to military matters.

 

[Freshgeardude]

But the point I am making is that the US is NOT israel. if the US were to attack Iran, wtf would Iran attack Israel.

the only logical answer to this is that they want to always attack Israel but dont want to look like the bad guys to the world

 

[Deeko]

What the hell is wrong with that? You bomb us, we'll bomb you back. Errr...I hope we'd do the same. Kinda like when the USA was attacked in 2001 and we did our best to eliminate them completely. That's, uh, exactly what this guy is saying.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
But the point I am making is that the US is NOT israel. if the US were to attack Iran, wtf would Iran attack Israel.

the only logical answer to this is that they want to always attack Israel but dont want to look like the bad guys to the world

Why? Because they can't hit us.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: ayabe
Up until recently we were an extension of Israel and have been for many years.

What has changed?

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.a...89§ionid=351020202


The ignorance of the Obamanation is astounding. It is almost as if they took the shit-sandwich called "change", and just assume it is happening.

Get your head out of the sand re: world events.


Isreal will strike Iran before they can make a nuke, and we will strike Iran ourselves if we are attacked.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
But the point I am making is that the US is NOT israel. if the US were to attack Iran, wtf would Iran attack Israel.

the only logical answer to this is that they want to always attack Israel but dont want to look like the bad guys to the world

Why? Because they can't hit us.

so if you shoot my arm, and you escape and I cant shoot you back ? i should shoot your wife? or child?

does that make sense? I dont think you even believe your bullshit

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
But the point I am making is that the US is NOT israel. if the US were to attack Iran, wtf would Iran attack Israel.

the only logical answer to this is that they want to always attack Israel but dont want to look like the bad guys to the world

I don't think Iran could easily shake their global reputation. The biggest problem for us is Iran trading partners with Russia and China.

 

[PokerGuy]

So in summary, they're saying if someone attacks us, we will attack them. Yeah, shocking, I know! :roll:

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ayabe
Up until recently we were an extension of Israel and have been for many years.

What has changed?

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.a...89§ionid=351020202


The ignorance of the Obamanation is astounding. It is almost as if they took the shit-sandwich called "change", and just assume it is happening.

Get your head out of the sand re: world events.


Isreal will strike Iran before they can make a nuke, and we will strike Iran ourselves if we are attacked.

Yawn, I thought Obama hated Israel because he's telling them to stop their illegal settlements.

You fucking guys can't keep your stories straight.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
But the point I am making is that the US is NOT israel. if the US were to attack Iran, wtf would Iran attack Israel.

the only logical answer to this is that they want to always attack Israel but dont want to look like the bad guys to the world

Why? Because they can't hit us.

so if you shoot my arm, and you escape and I cant shoot you back ? i should shoot your wife? or child?

does that make sense? I dont think you even believe your bullshit

Whether it makes sense is irrelevant, you're asking why and then calling my answer bullshit.

Don't come in here spouting nonsense, then deflect, then backtrack, then call into question MY LOGIC.

Answer your own question nutter.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
But the point I am making is that the US is NOT israel. if the US were to attack Iran, wtf would Iran attack Israel.

the only logical answer to this is that they want to always attack Israel but dont want to look like the bad guys to the world

For most countries, this would be true, but the US and Israel are a special case.

Iran does not want to be attacked by anybody. But if the US attacks Iran, Iran has threatened to attack the US's ally.

It's no different than the NATO/Warsaw Pact situation back during the Cold War.

You can't expect Iran to say, "If the US attacks, Iranian missiles will rain down on NYC."

It may not be morally right, but it is still a deterrent.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Yawn, I thought Obama hated Israel because he's telling them to stop their illegal settlements.

You fucking guys can't keep your stories straight.

Deflection instead of addressing the point? Nice.

I've never said anything about settlements. I just showed you that we are still preparing to deal with Iran if neccesary, which contradicts your statement that something has changed recently.

 

[brandonb]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
But the point I am making is that the US is NOT israel. if the US were to attack Iran, wtf would Iran attack Israel.

the only logical answer to this is that they want to always attack Israel but dont want to look like the bad guys to the world

Why? Because they can't hit us.

so if you shoot my arm, and you escape and I cant shoot you back ? i should shoot your wife? or child?

does that make sense? I dont think you even believe your bullshit

Are you that dense?

It's like 2 bullies jumping you, one whacks you on the head while the other is there to back up his buddy and taunting you. You survive, the next day you see one of the two bullies on the street alone, would you whack the guy even if he was the "back up man"?

Israel is not the USA's child or wife. The child and wife are innocent, but Israel is at the side of the USA on these diplomatic matters and is pressuring Iran and threatening just like we are. Israel and the USA are two of the same in these matters.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: tk149

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
But the point I am making is that the US is NOT israel. if the US were to attack Iran, wtf would Iran attack Israel.

the only logical answer to this is that they want to always attack Israel but dont want to look like the bad guys to the world

For most countries, this would be true, but the US and Israel are a special case.

Iran does not want to be attacked by anybody. But if the US attacks Iran, Iran has threatened to attack the US's ally.

It's no different than the NATO/Warsaw Pact situation back during the Cold War.

You can't expect Iran to say, "If the US attacks, Iranian missiles will rain down on NYC."

It may not be morally right, but it is still a deterrent.

good answer I guess.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: brandonb

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
But the point I am making is that the US is NOT israel. if the US were to attack Iran, wtf would Iran attack Israel.

the only logical answer to this is that they want to always attack Israel but dont want to look like the bad guys to the world

Why? Because they can't hit us.

so if you shoot my arm, and you escape and I cant shoot you back ? i should shoot your wife? or child?

does that make sense? I dont think you even believe your bullshit

Are you that dense?

It's like 2 bullies jumping you, one whacks you on the head while the other is there to back up his buddy and taunting you. You survive, the next day you see one of the two bullies on the street alone, would you whack the guy even if he was the "back up man"?

Israel is not the USA's child or wife. The child and wife are innocent, but Israel is at the side of the USA on these diplomatic matters and is pressuring Iran and threatening just like we are. Israel and the USA are two of the same in these matters.

your saying it like Israel has already attacked Iran or something.

ok let me rephrase that then. the wife and child stand next to the man and let him do it.

right now Israel is just like that. they, has the same interests as the world when it comes to Iran. Yes they are probably the reason for Iran to create nuclear weapons but that doesnt mean Israel is wrong in condemning them. China, France, UK, and Russia have all joined to discuss the issue of Iran. it is obviously a concern to the world and not just Israel and the US

its like Iran saying stuff against israel and condemning them, it means nothing but talk; and vise versa.

I understand your point with the bullies tho.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
But the point I am making is that the US is NOT israel. if the US were to attack Iran, wtf would Iran attack Israel.

the only logical answer to this is that they want to always attack Israel but dont want to look like the bad guys to the world

I don't think Iran could easily shake their global reputation. The biggest problem for us is Iran trading partners with Russia and China.

yes, but China and Russia neither want Iran to get nuclear weapons. It is a main concern for them as well. wouldnt you agree that if the US and europe isolate Irans economy and other condemnations that Russia and China wont follow?

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
But the point I am making is that the US is NOT israel. if the US were to attack Iran, wtf would Iran attack Israel.

the only logical answer to this is that they want to always attack Israel but dont want to look like the bad guys to the world

Why? Because they can't hit us.

so if you shoot my arm, and you escape and I cant shoot you back ? i should shoot your wife? or child?

does that make sense? I dont think you even believe your bullshit

Whether it makes sense is irrelevant, you're asking why and then calling my answer bullshit.

Don't come in here spouting nonsense, then deflect, then backtrack, then call into question MY LOGIC.

Answer your own question nutter.

your response was " because they cant hit us"

I read that as "if the US attacks Iran and Iran cant hit the US back, that they should still use their missiles on someone and just hit Israel because they hate them"

 

[piasabird]

We should just ignore Iran for a while. When they find we are ignoring them it will really get their goat.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
I read that as "if the US attacks Iran and Iran cant hit the US back, that they should still use their missiles on someone and just hit Israel because they hate them"

you have cognitive dissonance regarding this matter and it will be impossible to debate with you.

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude

Originally posted by: brandonb

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
But the point I am making is that the US is NOT israel. if the US were to attack Iran, wtf would Iran attack Israel.

the only logical answer to this is that they want to always attack Israel but dont want to look like the bad guys to the world

Why? Because they can't hit us.

so if you shoot my arm, and you escape and I cant shoot you back ? i should shoot your wife? or child?

does that make sense? I dont think you even believe your bullshit

Are you that dense?

It's like 2 bullies jumping you, one whacks you on the head while the other is there to back up his buddy and taunting you. You survive, the next day you see one of the two bullies on the street alone, would you whack the guy even if he was the "back up man"?

Israel is not the USA's child or wife. The child and wife are innocent, but Israel is at the side of the USA on these diplomatic matters and is pressuring Iran and threatening just like we are. Israel and the USA are two of the same in these matters.

your saying it like Israel has already attacked Iran or something.

ok let me rephrase that then. the wife and child stand next to the man and let him do it.

right now Israel is just like that. they, has the same interests as the world when it comes to Iran. Yes they are probably the reason for Iran to create nuclear weapons but that doesnt mean Israel is wrong in condemning them. China, France, UK, and Russia have all joined to discuss the issue of Iran. it is obviously a concern to the world and not just Israel and the US

its like Iran saying stuff against israel and condemning them, it means nothing but talk; and vise versa.

I understand your point with the bullies tho.

The world is against Iran getting the bomb, but only Israel has made out-spoken threats against Iran. I mean, if a country was constantly making threats at you and has shown a propensity to attack other countries with little to no agitation, then you would be quite justified in being bellicose towards that said country. When we apply names to these countries, then it becomes a contentious issue.

Iran has to be engaged diplomatically. They've shown a willingness to talk and discuss. Israel continues to launch accusations and threats against Iran and on top of that, has attacked two other sovereign countries with no provocation. Iran is quite justified in threatening Israel in this respect.

 

[Lemon law]

To start out with, if Israel bombs Iran, EVERYONE including Iran will assume US complicity. Especially if Israeli planes overfly Iraq, whose air space the USA is duty bound to protect.

Nor should we underestimate the Iranian ability to really make Israel hurt. Iran, unlike Israel is a vast country, but Israel is small and has no buffer zone at all. Iran is also suspected of having vast reserves of poison gas and similar weapons, Israel already has nukes, so it could rapidly become a mutually assured destruction thing very quickly.

And even with the vast military strength and firepower in the US arsenal, even the USA is not strong enough to mount a grown based offensive on Iran. Failing that, Iran has the missiles and manpower to completely shut down the Persian gulf for decades.
Which would result in instant depression for every oil based economy in the world.

The only entity I can think of bat shit crazy enough to surprise attack Iran is Israel. And even if Iran fails to kill a good part of the remaining Israeli population in a retaliatory strike(s), they can also simple sit back, open up their weapons stockpiles, and donate some of their really good stuff to every anti-Israeli terrorist on the planet. We got a sneak peek at what some of the Iranian not so good stuff could do to the best Israeli tanks, and Israel should think long and hard about having the whole zone get flooded on all sides.

Unlike Iraq and Syria, Iran is no paper tiger.