Iran to West: Remove Israel, or we will

[LordMorpheus]

Originally posted by: 1prophet
This guy is no joke!!!!

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

During the crackdown on universities in 1980, which Khomeini called the ?Islamic Cultural Revolution?, Ahmadinejad and the OSU played a critical role in purging dissident lecturers and students many of whom were arrested and later executed. Universities remained closed for three years and Ahmadinejad joined the Revolutionary Guards.

In the early 1980s, Ahmadinejad worked in the ?Internal Security? department of the IRGC and earned notoriety as a ruthless interrogator and torturer. According to the state-run website Baztab, allies of outgoing President Mohammad Khatami have revealed that Ahmadinejad worked for some time as an executioner in the notorious Evin Prison, where thousands of political prisoners were executed in the bloody purges of the 1980s.

And he believes a man with supernatural powers called the Mahdi is the key to the victory of Islam over the west and Israel.

Mahdi

The ultra-conservative president told the radical Shiite Islamists, many of whom have come to Qom from different Muslim countries, that Islam did not restrict itself to geographical borders.

?We must believe in the fact that Islam is not confined to geographical borders, ethnic groups and nations. It?s a universal ideology that leads the world to justice?, Ahmadinejad said.

?We don?t shy away from declaring that Islam is ready to rule the world?, he added.

Ahmadinejad dwelled on his recurrent theme that the return of the Shiite Messiah, the Mahdi, is not far away and Muslims must prepare for it.

?We must prepare ourselves to rule the world and the only way to do that is to put forth views on the basis of the Expectation of the Return?, Ahmadinejad said, referring to the Shiite Muslim belief that the Mahdi, on his return, will establish justice in a world consumed by chaos and corruption.

As long as we keep ducal heirs named Paul away, all should be well.

 

[tealk]

"Religion is one thing, government is another. They really shouldn't be mixed, that just results in opressive nations. As someone said, "act as if god does not exist, know that he does," or something like that. "

God is already there, he always is. He's apart of it all. And in the end times, which is now. This is all written, and coming to be. Just as he said. So many signs, and so many warnings of what is to come that has happened already, and yet still people don't beleive. But there day will come to, as it will for everyone.

 

[tealk]

France, Germany, and Russia continue to distance themselves! We can see the showdown coming! The present crisis will eventually escalate until all the nations of the world will gather in the Mideast to attack Israel. Saddam Hussein, the madman of Iraq, is creating a crisis that will pressure nations of the world to declare their allegiances and reveal their hatred of Israel.

This is and will happen. Not there just yet. It will.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: tealk
France, Germany, and Russia continue to distance themselves! We can see the showdown coming! The present crisis will eventually escalate until all the nations of the world will gather in the Mideast to attack Israel. Saddam Hussein, the madman of Iraq, is creating a crisis that will pressure nations of the world to declare their allegiances and reveal their hatred of Israel.

This is and will happen. Not there just yet. It will.

John Titor, is that you?

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: Howard
I hope Israel defends itself with excessive force.

:thumbsup:

:thumbsdown:

 

[tealk]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: tealk
France, Germany, and Russia continue to distance themselves! We can see the showdown coming! The present crisis will eventually escalate until all the nations of the world will gather in the Mideast to attack Israel. Saddam Hussein, the madman of Iraq, is creating a crisis that will pressure nations of the world to declare their allegiances and reveal their hatred of Israel.

This is and will happen. Not there just yet. It will.

John Titor, is that you?

http://www.celebrationchurch.net/HWIE.html
No it's Lowell Lundstrom

 

[scottish144]

Lol. This is why all true Islamic states will fail. A nutcase will eventaully come to power and do something stupid, effectivly fvcking up the entire Muslum religion in the eyes of the world. My prediction: It may take a century or so, but the Muslums will wipe themselves out by trying to take over the world. Hell, even France is pissed off by them.

 

[tealk]

Originally posted by: scottish144
Lol. This is why all true Islamic states will fail. A nutcase will eventaully come to power and do something stupid, effectivly fvcking up the entire Muslum religion in the eyes of the world. My prediction: It may take a century or so, but the Muslums will wipe themselves out by trying to take over the world. Hell, even France is pissed off by them.

That person you speak of that will come to power...he will be called the antichrist. LOL....good prediction.

 

[ForumMaster]

well, the Muslims have been saying this for years and every real war they've started thus far has ended in the total defeat of the Muslims and victory of Israel. Even in 1973 when we were crushed at the start, at the end, the only reason we were stopped from taking over Egypt was because the Russians threatened us. We were about 50km from Cario. This asshole of a guy needs to be put down. He wants the whole world too bow down to him, and if he continues acting like this, pretty soon there will be World War 3 except it'll be the whole world against the Islamic nations. it'll end pretty quickly and maybe then the world will finally have some quite.

 

[MrsBugi]

Originally posted by: michaels
Ahmadinejad says time has come for world to bow to Allah
http://www.jnewswire.com/library/article.php?articleid=988

f the West fails to peacefully remove the ?Zionist entity? from the Middle East, the ?Palestinians? and their Islamic allies will do so through violent fury, warned Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at a mass demonstration in Tehran Saturday.

Addressing the hundreds of thousands who turned out to mark the 27th anniversary of Iran's ?Islamic Revolution,? the virulent leader, as reported by WorldNetDaily, said regarding Israel:

?We ask the West to remove what they created sixty years ago and if they do not listen to our recommendations, then the Palestinian nation and other nations will eventually do this for them. Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations.? Islam dictates that formerly-Muslim dominated lands cannot revert to permanent non-Muslim control. It is this cornerstone of their faith that drives the murderous anti-Israel policies of Hamas and most of the Jewish state's Middle East neighbors.

But the threat is not only to Israel and other non-Muslim nations that have regained their sovereignty. Reconquering them is only the first step.

According to the Muslim faith, jihad must be waged until the entire world is under the thumb of Islam. Ahmadinejad declared that now is the time for the West to bow to this reality and submit to Allah:

?On the anniversary of the victory of the Islamic Revolution, the Iranian nation, numbering in the millions, calls upon those governments to worship Allah.? Similar sentiment was expressed by Iran's Hamas allies in the Palestinian Authority last week.

Speaking at a Damascus mosque on February 3, overall Hamas political leader Khaled Mashal declared:

?We say to this West... By Allah, you will be defeated... Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact.?

I wouldn't go so far as to attribute all of these actions to "The Muslim Faith" (as you have highlighted above). The violence is instigated by religious zealots who know the only way they will be able to cause a stir is by using religion, which is a shame. I don't believe it's representative of the feelings of all 1.2 billion Muslims in the world in the least.

Islam is actually a very peaceful faith. It's all in the interpretation, and as always it is a shame that only the zealots get press.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: MrsBugi

Originally posted by: michaels
Ahmadinejad says time has come for world to bow to Allah
http://www.jnewswire.com/library/article.php?articleid=988

f the West fails to peacefully remove the ?Zionist entity? from the Middle East, the ?Palestinians? and their Islamic allies will do so through violent fury, warned Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at a mass demonstration in Tehran Saturday.

Addressing the hundreds of thousands who turned out to mark the 27th anniversary of Iran's ?Islamic Revolution,? the virulent leader, as reported by WorldNetDaily, said regarding Israel:

?We ask the West to remove what they created sixty years ago and if they do not listen to our recommendations, then the Palestinian nation and other nations will eventually do this for them. Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations.? Islam dictates that formerly-Muslim dominated lands cannot revert to permanent non-Muslim control. It is this cornerstone of their faith that drives the murderous anti-Israel policies of Hamas and most of the Jewish state's Middle East neighbors.

But the threat is not only to Israel and other non-Muslim nations that have regained their sovereignty. Reconquering them is only the first step.

According to the Muslim faith, jihad must be waged until the entire world is under the thumb of Islam. Ahmadinejad declared that now is the time for the West to bow to this reality and submit to Allah:

?On the anniversary of the victory of the Islamic Revolution, the Iranian nation, numbering in the millions, calls upon those governments to worship Allah.? Similar sentiment was expressed by Iran's Hamas allies in the Palestinian Authority last week.

Speaking at a Damascus mosque on February 3, overall Hamas political leader Khaled Mashal declared:

?We say to this West... By Allah, you will be defeated... Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact.?

I wouldn't go so far as to attribute all of these actions to "The Muslim Faith" (as you have highlighted above). The violence is instigated by religious zealots who know the only way they will be able to cause a stir is by using religion, which is a shame. I don't believe it's representative of the feelings of all 1.2 billion Muslims in the world in the least.

Islam is actually a very peaceful faith. It's all in the interpretation, and as always it is a shame that only the zealots get press.

While I agree that you are probably right until that majority starts speaking out loud and clear everytime a terrorist action or nutball threat is issued in Islam's name by nutbags like Ahmadinejad they are going to be tarred with this assumption.

 

[MrsBugi]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: MrsBugi

Originally posted by: michaels
Ahmadinejad says time has come for world to bow to Allah
http://www.jnewswire.com/library/article.php?articleid=988

f the West fails to peacefully remove the ?Zionist entity? from the Middle East, the ?Palestinians? and their Islamic allies will do so through violent fury, warned Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at a mass demonstration in Tehran Saturday.

Addressing the hundreds of thousands who turned out to mark the 27th anniversary of Iran's ?Islamic Revolution,? the virulent leader, as reported by WorldNetDaily, said regarding Israel:

?We ask the West to remove what they created sixty years ago and if they do not listen to our recommendations, then the Palestinian nation and other nations will eventually do this for them. Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations.? Islam dictates that formerly-Muslim dominated lands cannot revert to permanent non-Muslim control. It is this cornerstone of their faith that drives the murderous anti-Israel policies of Hamas and most of the Jewish state's Middle East neighbors.

But the threat is not only to Israel and other non-Muslim nations that have regained their sovereignty. Reconquering them is only the first step.

According to the Muslim faith, jihad must be waged until the entire world is under the thumb of Islam. Ahmadinejad declared that now is the time for the West to bow to this reality and submit to Allah:

?On the anniversary of the victory of the Islamic Revolution, the Iranian nation, numbering in the millions, calls upon those governments to worship Allah.? Similar sentiment was expressed by Iran's Hamas allies in the Palestinian Authority last week.

Speaking at a Damascus mosque on February 3, overall Hamas political leader Khaled Mashal declared:

?We say to this West... By Allah, you will be defeated... Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact.?

I wouldn't go so far as to attribute all of these actions to "The Muslim Faith" (as you have highlighted above). The violence is instigated by religious zealots who know the only way they will be able to cause a stir is by using religion, which is a shame. I don't believe it's representative of the feelings of all 1.2 billion Muslims in the world in the least.

Islam is actually a very peaceful faith. It's all in the interpretation, and as always it is a shame that only the zealots get press.

While I agree that you are probably right until that majority starts speaking out loud and clear everytime a terrorist action or nutball threat is issued in Islam's name by nutbags like Ahmadinejad they are going to be tarred with this assumption.

That majority actually does speak out loudly, and receives coverage in their respective countries. However, this their voices do not receive press in the United States. Our media outlets are slightly biased, to say the least.

I would respectfully amend your statement to say that until the American press starts airing stories of the peaceful Muslim majority speaking out loud and clear, most Americans are unfortunately going to assume whatever they are fed via American media outlets.

 

[kermalou]

Its funny, Iran says it will get rid of Israel and the only way to do that is with a Nuke, but a Nuke will wipe out Jordan, Syria, and the Palestinians as well. I wonder how they will react?

 

[BurnItDwn]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Linux23
yikes. you guys talking about using nukes?

what about the peaceful and rational women and children of Iran? you're talking genocide here.:Q

The problem is that Iran seems to support the genocide of Israel. With that in mind, are you really opposed to Israel making a pre-emptive strike?


Here's a thought- let's say that I told you that I'm coming over your house to beat you up. I get there, and you kick my ass. Am I an innocent victim, or did I just fail at being a bully?

Do the citizens of Iran support genocide or is it their extreme leaders? There are over a billion muslims, but its the thousands of extremists that make the news. Red Dawn has the right idea, get rid of the people trying to start a war.

And a better analogy would be to tell someone, I'm coming over your house tomorrow to beat you up, then they go to your house and kill you and your family as a pre-emptive strike.

Not really a fair analogy.
While I don't support preemptive strikes, or nuking iran just yet, your analogy is a bit off.

It would be more like....
The bullies all pick on this one guy. He's a tough bastard, so he fights back. His entire life they have been messing with him. They've been trying to kill him. Every now and again they may land a punch and hurt him, but he fights back and hits them back harder and with more precision. One of the bullies is trying to aquire a gun, the guy knows the bully will have the gun soon, so he's not going to take a chance. He kills the bully that was trying to get the gun using his gun. He also kills that bullies family.

In the end, it comes down to killing people who don't need killing.

 

[tealk]

Originally posted by: kermalou
Its funny, Iran says it will get rid of Israel and the only way to do that is with a Nuke, but a Nuke will wipe out Jordan, Syria, and the Palestinians as well. I wonder how they will react?

It's funny I just heard that Iran is very close to it's deveolpment of there "own" nuke....I'm talking within 1-3 months. It will be interesting what Isreal will do. From what I hear they will deal with them themselves. They also said patience in key.
I think the next few months Iran will be in the spotlight....No lie!

 

[Trente]

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
He kills the bully that was trying to get the gun using his gun. He also kills that bullies family.

All he has to do is destroy that bully's gun; no need to kill him or his family the way I see it...

 

[wvtalbot]

jnewswire.com?

Yeah thats a reliable source.

 

[thehstrybean]

Hey, if Iran ever did attack Israel, Israel has these little suckers called King Davids that are "tatical" nuclear weapons (if a nuke can be tatical)...Iran would get their asses handed to them.