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Iran to West: Remove Israel, or we will
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"By the late 1990s the U.S. Intelligence Community estimated that Israel possessed between 75-130 weapons, based on production estimates. The stockpile would certainly include warheads for mobile Jericho-1 and Jericho-2 missiles, as well as bombs for Israeli aircraft, and may include other tactical nuclear weapons of various types. Some published estimates even claimed that Israel might have as many as 400 nuclear weapons by the late 1990s. We believe these numbers are exaggerated. "
So 150-200 max
So 150-200 max
I don't know about that... usually I'd say that you'd be right, since the US would like to avert nuclear weapons from being used. But if the US takes the side of Israel in an all-out middle eastern war, that instantly alienates us from all muslim countries and makes us their enemy now, too. And since the Islamic countries would still exist, we'd be their enemy for years and the subject to non-stop terrorist attacks.
With that in mind, option #1 (letting Israel nuke them) seems like the best bet.
Nebor
Lifer
It wouldn't really do much. Even a total out of control, caught with your pants down, oh my god we're screwed melt down doesn't cause that much collateral damage. Sure, it causes birth defects and radiation poisoning, and ruins the area for a couple thousand years... But that's really not much of a weapon.
middlehead
Diamond Member
They can borrow ours. I'll vote for it.
The problem is that Iran seems to support the genocide of Israel. With that in mind, are you really opposed to Israel making a pre-emptive strike?
Here's a thought- let's say that I told you that I'm coming over your house to beat you up. I get there, and you kick my ass. Am I an innocent victim, or did I just fail at being a bully?
myusername
Diamond Member
As long as you aren't swayed by the whole public execution/sharia thing that's been going on in other threads . Cause if you are, then you recognize that some of the people of Iran are also the victims, in which case nuking them isn't doing them any favors.
1prophet
Diamond Member
This guy is no joke!!!!
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
During the crackdown on universities in 1980, which Khomeini called the ?Islamic Cultural Revolution?, Ahmadinejad and the OSU played a critical role in purging dissident lecturers and students many of whom were arrested and later executed. Universities remained closed for three years and Ahmadinejad joined the Revolutionary Guards.
In the early 1980s, Ahmadinejad worked in the ?Internal Security? department of the IRGC and earned notoriety as a ruthless interrogator and torturer. According to the state-run website Baztab, allies of outgoing President Mohammad Khatami have revealed that Ahmadinejad worked for some time as an executioner in the notorious Evin Prison, where thousands of political prisoners were executed in the bloody purges of the 1980s.
And he believes a man with supernatural powers called the Mahdi is the key to the victory of Islam over the west and Israel.
Mahdi
The ultra-conservative president told the radical Shiite Islamists, many of whom have come to Qom from different Muslim countries, that Islam did not restrict itself to geographical borders.
?We must believe in the fact that Islam is not confined to geographical borders, ethnic groups and nations. It?s a universal ideology that leads the world to justice?, Ahmadinejad said.
?We don?t shy away from declaring that Islam is ready to rule the world?, he added.
Ahmadinejad dwelled on his recurrent theme that the return of the Shiite Messiah, the Mahdi, is not far away and Muslims must prepare for it.
?We must prepare ourselves to rule the world and the only way to do that is to put forth views on the basis of the Expectation of the Return?, Ahmadinejad said, referring to the Shiite Muslim belief that the Mahdi, on his return, will establish justice in a world consumed by chaos and corruption.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
During the crackdown on universities in 1980, which Khomeini called the ?Islamic Cultural Revolution?, Ahmadinejad and the OSU played a critical role in purging dissident lecturers and students many of whom were arrested and later executed. Universities remained closed for three years and Ahmadinejad joined the Revolutionary Guards.
In the early 1980s, Ahmadinejad worked in the ?Internal Security? department of the IRGC and earned notoriety as a ruthless interrogator and torturer. According to the state-run website Baztab, allies of outgoing President Mohammad Khatami have revealed that Ahmadinejad worked for some time as an executioner in the notorious Evin Prison, where thousands of political prisoners were executed in the bloody purges of the 1980s.
And he believes a man with supernatural powers called the Mahdi is the key to the victory of Islam over the west and Israel.
Mahdi
The ultra-conservative president told the radical Shiite Islamists, many of whom have come to Qom from different Muslim countries, that Islam did not restrict itself to geographical borders.
?We must believe in the fact that Islam is not confined to geographical borders, ethnic groups and nations. It?s a universal ideology that leads the world to justice?, Ahmadinejad said.
?We don?t shy away from declaring that Islam is ready to rule the world?, he added.
Ahmadinejad dwelled on his recurrent theme that the return of the Shiite Messiah, the Mahdi, is not far away and Muslims must prepare for it.
?We must prepare ourselves to rule the world and the only way to do that is to put forth views on the basis of the Expectation of the Return?, Ahmadinejad said, referring to the Shiite Muslim belief that the Mahdi, on his return, will establish justice in a world consumed by chaos and corruption.
Nebor
Lifer
And a meltdown would have absolutely no effect on them. Maybe delay their production of weapons grade nuclear material? From ONE of their facilities? Meanwhile you knock out power to a lot of people, you ruin a lot of land, crops and animals, as well as introduce birth defects to the population for generations to come. To me, that's unconscionable. It would be more humane to hit them with a nuclear weapon that just obliterates them.
bigdog1218
Golden Member
Do the citizens of Iran support genocide or is it their extreme leaders? There are over a billion muslims, but its the thousands of extremists that make the news. Red Dawn has the right idea, get rid of the people trying to start a war.
And a better analogy would be to tell someone, I'm coming over your house tomorrow to beat you up, then they go to your house and kill you and your family as a pre-emptive strike.
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