Iran, six world powers clinch breakthrough nuclear deal

[soccerballtux]

A big lie to start with, 19000 centrifuges would be barely enough to refine enough U235 for their single electricity power plant, let alone for the 10 they want to build in 20 years.

The US and Europe should stop messing in what is an iranian domestical issue.

they need 12k for 3 years in a stacked arrangement to make an atom bomb.

random inspections are really nothing to fuss about

not to mention any of 20 nations will sell them 20% grade uranium on the open market for dirt cheap.

 

[5150Joker]

obama hates the united states.

Mark my words, when a new president enters office in 2016 that person will face a nightmare situation.

It will take decades, if not a generation to undo what obama has done.

Coming from someone that can't even grasp Algebra, your ignorant comment isn't surprising. Go back to your trailer.

 

[Texashiker]

So there is no rational, believable reason. You're simply flinging crap at the walls again. No surprise there.

Over the past few years I have posted numerous examples to affirm my stance.

Take a look at this Iran nuclear deal. Even though the deal fell through sanctions are eased.

Coming from someone that can't even grasp Algebra, your ignorant comment isn't surprising. Go back to your trailer.

Do you have anything to contribute to the discussion besides insults?

This whole obama is going to get a deal with Iran is a ruse. There is no deal, there was never going to be a deal.

obama is putting up smoke in mirrors to make it "look" like there is going to be a deal with Iran. Iran already made a nuclear deal with Russia.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/12/w...-plants-in-iran-and-possibly-6-more.html?_r=0

MOSCOW — Russia agreed on Tuesday to build two new nuclear power reactors in Iran, with a possibility of six more after that, in a deal that greatly expands nuclear cooperation between the two countries.

There is not going to be a deal without involving Russia. And we all know obama does not play well with others.

The "only" reason obama is talking about a nuclear deal with Iran is to get trade sanctions reduced.

 

[norseamd]

There is not going to be a deal without involving Russia. And we all know obama does not play well with others. The "only" reason obama is talking about a nuclear deal with Iran is to get trade sanctions reduced. Texashiker is online now Report Post

No this is probably Muscovy experiencing a emotional meltdown that Iran might actually be willing to work with the Western countries including selling them hydrocarbons and other natural resources. Thus they want to interject themselves into the situation to keep Iran as close as possible to Muscovy.

 

[michal1980]

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-americans-have-very-clearly-surrendered/

Iran: ‘Americans Have Very Clearly Surrendered’

Thanks Obama.

 

[Texashiker]

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-americans-have-very-clearly-surrendered/

From your link,

Iran’s goal in the talks going forward is to retain its most contested nuclear technology and see all economic sanctions against it lifted, according to Rouhani.

obama has ensured both of those things happened:

1 - Iran continues to enrich uranium.

2 - obama reduced sanctions and opposes any increased sanctions.

In other words, obama is giving Iran exactly what it wants.


What is it going to take for yall to realize obama wishes to destroy the United States? One way to do that is to ensure a radical far right Muslim nation develops a nuclear weapon.

How many super tankers go right by Iran on a daily basis? Where are those tankers heading? To major US ports.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'd just like to know who doesn't get nuclear weapons? In a world where nuclear proliferation is tolerated.

 

[fskimospy]

I'd just like to know who doesn't get nuclear weapons? In a world where nuclear proliferation is tolerated.

I'd just like to know how you plan on stopping people from getting nuclear weapons eventually if they want them. Do you think this is possible? (North Korea seems to indicate no)

If it's not possible, then the only question remains how you can best mitigate the situation.

 

[shira]

Over the past few years I have posted numerous examples to affirm my stance.

You do understand how ignorant this statement of yours is, don't you? To "affirm one's stance" is simply to state one's belief strongly. "Affirming" a stance has absolutely nothing to do with substantiating it. In your case, "affirming" simply means confidently stating the same stupid things over and over and over again.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/affirm

Affirm: to state or assert positively; maintain as true

But at least you're consistent. You apply the same smug ignorance to your use of words as you do to your so-called reasoning.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'd just like to know how you plan on stopping people from getting nuclear weapons eventually if they want them. Do you think this is possible? (North Korea seems to indicate no)

If it's not possible, then the only question remains how you can best mitigate the situation.

The same way we mitigate gun violence, I'm sure.

How? I'd go to war to stop nuclear proliferation. Do you have any idea what nukes will eventually cost us?

 

[fskimospy]

The same way we mitigate gun violence, I'm sure.

How? I'd go to war to stop nuclear proliferation. Do you have any idea what nukes will eventually cost us?

This means that so far you would have gone to war with North Korea, Israel, Pakistan, India, and Iran?

 

[Jhhnn]

they need 12k for 3 years in a stacked arrangement to make an atom bomb.

random inspections are really nothing to fuss about

not to mention any of 20 nations will sell them 20% grade uranium on the open market for dirt cheap.

Link that up, OK?

 

[Abwx]

they need 12k for 3 years in a stacked arrangement to make an atom bomb.

random inspections are really nothing to fuss about

not to mention any of 20 nations will sell them 20% grade uranium on the open market for dirt cheap.

Why would they buy what they can manufacture..?..

Should a responsible political power put his nation under the dependence of unfriendly nations when it comes to her energy supply.?.

I think you just dont realize hiow much you re just espressing the western arrogance, that is, to grant yourself legitimate rights that you re denying to others, Iran wants energetical and industrial sovereignty, like the US or France.

Litteraly we could say that Iran is fighting for an economical devellopement that is denied to them by the usual bullies, progress against capitalist s obscurantism.

Link that up, OK?

The link trace its origin in an asylum, same as the "dirt cheap uranium", he dont even know the price of this commodity, he must have confused the unities in kg with tons..

http://www.uxc.com/review/UxCPrices.aspx

 

[Jhhnn]

The link trace its origin in an asylum, same as the "dirt cheap uranium", he dont even know the price of this commodity, he must have confused the unities in kg with tons..

He won't link anything as he's just parroting whatever justification comes to mind to keep on believin', same as the rest of the ravers.

 

[JumBie]

I wouldn't trust it. The Iranians are probably laughing their asses off, chanting "death to America", while enjoying the additional time they have just been granted. I have a prediction..........

We may not need to STOA....we may be blown to smithereens before then.

Typical American patriotic bullshit.

 

[Lash444]

obama hates the united states.

It will take decades, if not a generation to undo what obama has done.

If George Bush is any indicator, I am pretty sure that all it will take is one Republican president and they can effectively dismantle the previous administrations work.

 

[cabri]

Iranian commander: The 'Americans are begging us for a deal'

A top Iranian military leader claims that U.S. officials have been “begging us” to sign a nuclear deal during closed door negotiations with Tehran over its contested nuclear program, according to recent comments made to the Iranian state-controlled media.

While I do not believe the US is "begging", I feel that for political points, concessions are being made to cement a deal that is not what is needed to keep Iran nuclear weapons in check.

Obama wants something to hang out the window; the majority of his foreign policy issues (in that area of the world) have blown up with false expectations/results

 

[K1052]

Iranian commander: The 'Americans are begging us for a deal'



While I do not believe the US is "begging", I feel that for political points, concessions are being made to cement a deal that is not what is needed to keep Iran nuclear weapons in check.

Obama wants something to hang out the window; the majority of his foreign policy issues (in that area of the world) have blown up with false expectations/results

Mohammad Reza Naghdi, the commander of the Basij, a paramilitary group operating under the wing of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corp (IRGC)

Slop for domestic consumption by the hardliners.

Until the actual deal points emerge it is pointless to speculate.

 

[cabri]

Slop for domestic consumption by the hardliners.

Until the actual deal points emerge it is pointless to speculate.

I do not think that there will be a deal by the next deadline.

For political saving face; the deadline will again be extended; repeat continually.

 

[fskimospy]

I do not think that there will be a deal by the next deadline.

For political saving face; the deadline will again be extended; repeat continually.

Who knows? The talks seem to be making progress, abeit slow progress.

Regardless, the Israeli position is a nonstarter. There's not going to be any bombing, at least not by us, and if Israel decides to go it alone the US should hang them out to dry.

 

[cabri]

Who knows? The talks seem to be making progress, abeit slow progress.

Regardless, the Israeli position is a nonstarter. There's not going to be any bombing, at least not by us, and if Israel decides to go it alone the US should hang them out to dry.

What progress; no one has inked anything except to extend deadlines.

Nothing has been put forward for public consumption other than photo opportunities.

 

[K1052]

What progress; no one has inked anything except to extend deadlines.

Nothing has been put forward for public consumption other than photo opportunities.

Are you expecting them to email minutes of each meeting to the press or something? International diplomacy is basically never conducted under the scrutiny of the media or below the highest executive level inside the respective countries, nor should it be.

 

[cabri]

What progress; no one has inked anything except to extend deadlines.

Nothing has been put forward for public consumption other than photo opportunities.

Are you expecting them to email minutes of each meeting to the press or something? International diplomacy is basically never conducted under the scrutiny of the media or below the highest executive level inside the respective countries, nor should it be.

If they are going to stand for photo ops and make announcements that we are close but need more time; how about backing up what has been accomplished when you make the public announcement.

 

[Brainonska511]

If they are going to stand for photo ops and make announcements that we are close but need more time; how about backing up what has been accomplished when you make the public announcement.

Because the people that want to derail the deal will harp on those issues before the deal is even completed. Even without the details, people are trying to derail negotiations both here in the US and in Iran.

 

[fskimospy]

If they are going to stand for photo ops and make announcements that we are close but need more time; how about backing up what has been accomplished when you make the public announcement.

No sane diplomat would ever do that. No agreement is done until it's 100% done and talking about parts that you think are agreed on (but might be subject to change due to other yet to be agreed on things) not only disrupts negotiations but can embarrass you or your negotiating partner later.