Iran sanctions working? Hezbollah aid cut by 40

[yllus]

More fuel on the fire for the "Do sanctions actually work?" argument.

Iran said to have cut Hizbullah aid by 40%

Iran has cut the annual budget it provides Hizbullah by over 40 percent, stirring an unprecedented crisis within the Lebanese Shi’ite guerrilla organization.

This comes, according to recent Israeli intelligence assessments, just weeks before a United Nations tribunal is expected to accuse Hizbullah of assassinating former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri in 2005.

Iran has in recent years provided Hizbullah with close to $1 billion in direct military aid, but due to the impact of the recent round of international sanctions, the Islamic Republic has been forced to cut back on the funding. The money is used by Hizbullah to buy advanced weaponry, train and pay its operatives and establish military positions and sustain them throughout Lebanon.

The cuts in the budget has stirred tension between Hizbullah and its Iranian patrons, further fueled by disagreements between the top Hizbullah leadership and the Revolutionary Guard Corps officer who was appointed earlier this year to oversee Hizbullah operations on behalf of the Islamic Republic.

That officer is Hossein Mahadavi, and his official title is “commander of Iran’s overseas division,” which in this case is Hizbullah.

Mahadavi is believed to maintain an office in Beirut and is a senior member of the Guard’s Al-Quds Force, which is responsible for Iran’s overseas operations.

 

[JS80]

Shouldn't you list all the people that suffer due to sanctions and then compare it to the benefits to weigh the morality in its entirety?

 

[yllus]

Shouldn't you list all the people that suffer due to sanctions and then compare it to the benefits to weigh the morality in its entirety?

I could, but I have surgery to get rocket legs in an hour.

 

[EagleKeeper]

While the reduction of funds is good news; is this the result that the sanctions were intended for?

Given that Iran supports Syria and Hamas also, are those groups also getting cut or is Hezbollah the odd one out?

 

[DesiPower]

Its a business, if you don't deliver result (blowing up stuff) you don't get funds. Funds will be diverted to other areas like creating extremist brotherhood in all major metros in the world so that moderate islamism can be suppressed and sharia popularized.

 

[Freshgeardude]

good to hear. but it isnt all that surprising.

hezbollah only exists because iran funds it. they are the puppet for iran.

if iran is cutting everything, this is included.

if hezbollah dissolves to dissappearance, I wonder if this kind of tactic will be used in future times to dissolve state funded terrorist groups.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Its a business, if you don't deliver result (blowing up stuff) you don't get funds. Funds will be diverted to other areas like creating extremist brotherhood in all major metros in the world so that moderate islamism can be suppressed and sharia popularized.

This probably more true than it sounds!!! In fact I could agree with this!!

 

[Lemon law]

First of all, its time to note that Hezzbollah, Hamas, and Fatah spend most of the funding on social services than on funding any offensive operations.

The other things is that one can't really look at the published budget of any government to actually determine what is being allocated for foreign aid. Take the US budget for example, there may be some stated figure on what Israel is getting for foreign aid, but Israel actually gets all kinds of secret funding which is hidden in all kinds of other budgeting programs.

I suspect its the same way for Iran, so they cut funds to Hezbollah, but may hide the actual figure by allocating more funds to other entities who then secretly pass funding to Hezbollah.

 

[Freshgeardude]

First of all, its time to note that Hezzbollah, Hamas, and Fatah spend most of the funding on social services than on funding any offensive operations.

Lets see some proof of this?

Fatah id believe
Hamas, POSSIBLY,
Hezzbollah, Hell no.

The other things is that one can't really look at the published budget of any government to actually determine what is being allocated for foreign aid. Take the US budget for example, there may be some stated figure on what Israel is getting for foreign aid, but Israel actually gets all kinds of secret funding which is hidden in all kinds of other budgeting programs.

I suspect its the same way for Iran, so they cut funds to Hezbollah, but may hide the actual figure by allocating more funds to other entities who then secretly pass funding to Hezbollah.

this I could agree with. im sure the stated numbers for foreign aid for any country the US gives out to is not correct.

stop getting israel involved in this conversation.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Lets see some proof of this?

Fatah id believe
Hamas, POSSIBLY,
Hezzbollah, Hell no.




this I could agree with. im sure the stated numbers for foreign aid for any country the US gives out to is not correct.

stop getting israel involved in this conversation.

Why do you keep posting about shit you know nothing about?

Out of the three, Hisb'Allah is the only one that has actually been able to show how the money goes to rebuilding, schooling and feeding refugees in Syria, Jordan and Lebanon.

For Fatah... lol, yeah, the leadership will get richer as they always have, for Hamas it goes almost directly to Al-Aqsa.

You don't know the head from your arse teenager, just shut the fuck up.

 

[hydroponik]

First of all, its time to note that Hezzbollah, Hamas, and Fatah spend most of the funding on social services than on funding any offensive operations.

The other things is that one can't really look at the published budget of any government to actually determine what is being allocated for foreign aid. Take the US budget for example, there may be some stated figure on what Israel is getting for foreign aid, but Israel actually gets all kinds of secret funding which is hidden in all kinds of other budgeting programs.

I suspect its the same way for Iran, so they cut funds to Hezbollah, but may hide the actual figure by allocating more funds to other entities who then secretly pass funding to Hezbollah.

Damn, let me get some of the fucking kool aid you've been drinking.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Damn, let me get some of the fucking kool aid you've been drinking.

Don't, it's filled with a brain rotting substance that makes you think that killing civilians en masse is the same as stopping your enemies from killing civilians in your nation.

Lemon has had about fivehundred gallons of the stuff and one litre is more than enough to make you stupid.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

While the reduction of funds is good news; is this the result that the sanctions were intended for?

Given that Iran supports Syria and Hamas also, are those groups also getting cut or is Hezbollah the odd one out?

From what i know, not Hamas but Syria is an equal paying partner so i suppose not much will happen there.

I probably should not write this.

 

[Lemon law]

Well we can certainly discuss the relative potency of various posters kool aid, or we can discuss the the relative stupidity of the fine delusions we have gotten into in the world because of a long standing over dose of reality numbing world wide KOOL AID addiction.

Nor will I accept any JOS crawfishing out, by saying, "I probably should not write this."
Because lately, a refreshing few things JOS is saying are indeed making some sense as he challenges a subset of bullshit myths as a honest man. Even if it does not always make him totally a slave to the alternate brand of KOOL AID.