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Iran on the Record

conjur

No Lifer
Remember Henry Waxman's AWESOME Iraq on the Record report?
http://hgrm.ctsg.com/index.asp


Well, let's start compiling one for the war-drum rhetoric on Iran.


I'll start:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/jan-june06/iran_3-15.html
RICHARD CHENEY, Vice President of the United States: The Iranian regime needs to know that, if it stays on its present course, the international community is prepared to impose meaningful consequences. For our part, the United States is keeping all options on the table in addressing the irresponsible conduct of the regime.

...

CONDOLEEZZA RICE, U.S. Secretary of State: We may face no greater challenge from a single country than from Iran, whose policies are directed at developing a Middle East that would be 180 degrees different than the Middle East we would like to see develop.

...

DONALD RUMSFELD, U.S. Secretary of Defense: Senator Byrd, I know of no plans to attack Iran, if that's the thrust of the question. With respect to attacks on Iran, I would reverse it. At the present time, Iran is inserting people into Iraq and doing things that are damaging and dangerous to our forces there.

...

MARGARET WARNER: Last Friday, President Bush raised yet another point in the administration's bill of particulars against Iran.

GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States: The Iranian president has stated his desire to destroy our ally, Israel. So when you start listening to what he has said to their desire to develop a nuclear weapon, then you begin to see an issue of grave national security concern.

MARGARET WARNER: But at a rally yesterday, Iranian President Ahmadinejad was defiant.

MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD, President of Iran (through translator): Rest assured that the technology to produce nuclear fuel today is in the hands of the youth of this land, and no power can take it back from us.


Bolton compares Iran threat to Sept. 11 attacks
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11849446
UNITED NATIONS - The U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton, Wednesday compared the threat from Iran?s nuclear programs to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the United States.

?Just like Sept. 11, only with nuclear weapons this time, that?s the threat. I think that is the threat,? Bolton told ABC News? Nightline. ?I think it?s just facing reality. It?s not a happy reality, but it?s reality and if you don?t deal with it, it will become even more unpleasant.?

Bolton ratcheted up the rhetoric as the five veto-holding members of the U.N. Security Council failed again to reach agreement on how to curb Iran?s nuclear ambitions after a fifth round of negotiations.

I'm sure we're going to have no shortage of quotes from the neocons and their puppets in the White House. I bet even the M$M pundits will join the fray and we can look back in a couple of years at their complicity, just like they did during the run-up to the Iraq war:
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2842
 
Bush Adviser Says Iran Bluffing on Iraq
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060317/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_iran
WASHINGTON - President Bush's top foreign policy adviser said Friday that Iran's new willingness to talk about Iraq with the United States is probably a ploy designed to "divert pressure and divert attention" from international concern that Tehran wants a nuclear bomb

...

"The concern, therefore, is that it is simply a device by the Iranians to try and divert pressure that they're feeling in New York, to try and drive a wedge between the United States and the other countries with which we are working on the nuclear issue and, if you will, divert pressure and divert attention."

Hadley added: "Obviously, this is something that we and those who are working with us on these issues will not let happen."

:roll:
 
Forgot about this thread...time for some updates

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060417fa_fact
There is a growing conviction among members of the United States military, and in the international community, that President Bush?s ultimate goal in the nuclear confrontation with Iran is regime change. Iran?s President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has challenged the reality of the Holocaust and said that Israel must be ?wiped off the map.? Bush and others in the White House view him as a potential Adolf Hitler, a former senior intelligence official said. ?That?s the name they?re using. They say, ?Will Iran get a strategic weapon and threaten another world war?? ?

A government consultant with close ties to the civilian leadership in the Pentagon said that Bush was ?absolutely convinced that Iran is going to get the bomb? if it is not stopped. He said that the President believes that he must do ?what no Democrat or Republican, if elected in the future, would have the courage to do,? and ?that saving Iran is going to be his legacy.?

One former defense official, who still deals with sensitive issues for the Bush Administration, told me that the military planning was premised on a belief that ?a sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government.? He added, ?I was shocked when I heard it, and asked myself, ?What are they smoking?? ?

The rationale for regime change was articulated in early March by Patrick Clawson, an Iran expert who is the deputy director for research at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and who has been a supporter of President Bush. ?So long as Iran has an Islamic republic, it will have a nuclear-weapons program, at least clandestinely,? Clawson told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on March 2nd. ?The key issue, therefore, is: How long will the present Iranian regime last??

When I spoke to Clawson, he emphasized that ?this Administration is putting a lot of effort into diplomacy.? However, he added, Iran had no choice other than to accede to America?s demands or face a military attack. Clawson said that he fears that Ahmadinejad ?sees the West as wimps and thinks we will eventually cave in. We have to be ready to deal with Iran if the crisis escalates.? Clawson said that he would prefer to rely on sabotage and other clandestine activities, such as ?industrial accidents.? But, he said, it would be prudent to prepare for a wider war, ?given the way the Iranians are acting. This is not like planning to invade Quebec.?

...

A senior Pentagon adviser on the war on terror expressed a similar view. ?This White House believes that the only way to solve the problem is to change the power structure in Iran, and that means war,? he said.
...

In recent weeks, the President has quietly initiated a series of talks on plans for Iran with a few key senators and members of Congress, including at least one Democrat. A senior member of the House Appropriations Committee, who did not take part in the meetings but has discussed their content with his colleagues, told me that there had been ?no formal briefings,? because ?they?re reluctant to brief the minority. They?re doing the Senate, somewhat selectively.?

The House member said that no one in the meetings ?is really objecting? to the talk of war. ?The people they?re briefing are the same ones who led the charge on Iraq. At most, questions are raised: How are you going to hit all the sites at once? How are you going to get deep enough?? (Iran is building facilities underground.) ?There?s no pressure from Congress? not to take military action, the House member added. ?The only political pressure is from the guys who want to do it.? Speaking of President Bush, the House member said, ?The most worrisome thing is that this guy has a messianic vision.?
 
I think we might possibly fly some air strikes against Iran but I don't think there's only a very, very slim chance of anything else happening. IMO the politicians are in the process of breaking the military as it has existed up to this point. Not intentially breaking it but breaking it nontheless. Iran would be just sort of Iraq REDUX. If we get into Iran we would risk "adventurism" (a term from the cold war) on the part of everyone from India to China to Russia to North Korea. Everyone who wanted to do a little ax grinding would have the opportunity if we went into Iran.But I think a thread to keep track of political statements on Iran. I didn't confine it to "administration" statements because I wouldn't count all the Dems who were in favor of the Iraq thing as "being in the administration."
 
I suppose my initial prediction of us bombing them by now has become false. I still think it's going to happen sooner or later though.
 
Originally posted by: Witling
I think we might possibly fly some air strikes against Iran but I don't think there's only a very, very slim chance of anything else happening. IMO the politicians are in the process of breaking the military as it has existed up to this point. Not intentially breaking it but breaking it nontheless. Iran would be just sort of Iraq REDUX. If we get into Iran we would risk "adventurism" (a term from the cold war) on the part of everyone from India to China to Russia to North Korea. Everyone who wanted to do a little ax grinding would have the opportunity if we went into Iran.But I think a thread to keep track of political statements on Iran. I didn't confine it to "administration" statements because I wouldn't count all the Dems who were in favor of the Iraq thing as "being in the administration."

Just make sure to leave out all the international sentiments that echo the administrations position.
 
Those assholes have so liitle credibility with the American public that there is no way in hell that they will be able to get Americans to back any military strikes without finding themselves and their party out on their asses.
 
Satterfield: Hizbullah Involved in Violence in Iraq
http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsD...74B95FEF3C225719400335450?OpenDocument
U.S. State Department official David Satterfield has warned Syria that its own stability could be affected by extremism in Iraq where he said Hizbullah was involved in attacks against U.S. and other soldiers.
Satterfield, in an interview with the London-based al-Hayat newspaper published Wednesday, accused Iran and its ally Hizbullah of involvement in acts of violence in Iraq.

Satterfield, who is U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's senior advisor on Iraq, said that while Tehran officially claims that it wants a "stable, peaceful and prosperous" Iraq, it is carrying out attacks in the neighboring country.

"Iran is involved in a certain behavior in Iraq, that to a certain extent involves Hizbullah which is actively taking part in acts of violence that are causing the death of Iraqi, American, British (soldiers) as well as other members of the coalition forces," Satterfield said.

The official, who previously was the deputy chief of mission at the U.S. embassy in Baghdad, said Iran was involved in planting road-side bombs but refused to give further details.

"Iran's participation in violence has taken different faces and perhaps the most damaging is the spread of advanced explosive devices and this must stop. I will not go into further detail," Satterfield said.

Turning to Syria, Satterfield urged Damascus to stop harboring members of Iraq's former Baathist regime and take more active steps to prevent the infiltrations of militants into Iraq through the common border.

He said that the Syrian government should realize that "an unstable Iraq, where Sunni (Muslim) extremism and other negative influences are rampant, in the end constitutes a threat to Syria."

He said Syria is still the "main passage for suicide bombers to Iraq" in spite of apparent "tactical" measures taken by Damascus.

Been a while since I've updated this thread. Will have to go back and fill in the gaps.
 
Congress quietly holds classified briefings on Iran as Democrats seek access to intelligence
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Senate_Dems_push_for_Iran_oversight_0622.html
In an effort to stave off what appears to be a Congressional blackout by the Bush administration with regard to Iran intelligence and policy, Senate Democratic leaders introduced the Iran Intelligence Oversight Act on Monday.

The amendment indicates that few in Congress have received access to US intelligence on Iran. Democrats' comments also signal that key lawmakers have yet to be briefed with regard to Administration policy.

It's difficult to determine who has been briefed on any portion of the administration?s Iran policy because of the secretive nature of the Bush administration.

As such, both Republicans and Democrats have taken to holding their own briefings, inviting experts to give their opinion as outsiders looking in. Congressional staffers, intelligence and military officials confirmed to RAW STORY that these ad hoc briefings are part of an effort by Congress to learn what the Executive Branch is doing with its foreign policy. The briefings, however, are treated as classified and no information is available on who has attended or what has been discussed.

According to Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), Congress has not been briefed on an offer to help Iran develop some nuclear technologies if they abandoned plans to enrich uranium.

"To the best of my knowledge, Congress has not yet been briefed on any of the key details of the deal offered to Iran a few weeks ago," Reid said on the Senate floor this week. "The Iranians have been briefed, the Europeans have been briefed, the Russians have been briefed, the Chinese have been briefed -- but not the U.S. Senate."

Senator Reid's Director of Communications, Jim Manley, wrote in an email to RAW STORY Wednesday that he could not comment on what Senator Reid had been "briefed on or not briefed on." As Minority Leader, Reid is one of the Gang of 8, the eight members of Congress with top-level intelligence clearances.

Reid's bill S.3536, introduced on the Senate floor Monday, assails the Republican-led Congress for what he sees as a lack of oversight and the body?s demotion to a "rubber stamp" for Administration policies. In his floor speech, Reid painted the Legislative branch as impotent and weakened by an over-reaching Executive branch.

"All of us are painfully aware of this Congress's unwillingness to hold this administration accountable for its mistakes and misjudgments," Reid stated. "There has been virtually no oversight on anything."

Specifically, Reid pointed to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence?s failure to complete the Phase II investigation into pre-war Iraq intelligence and the role of the Defense Department?s secretive Office of Special Plans.

"Nearly three years into its investigation of the White House's politicization of Iraq intelligence, we still don't have a report," the Nevada Democrat remarked.
 
Originally posted by: Czar
nice, keep this thread updated conjur, will be nice to look back and see how things started 🙂

Conjur and this thread will disapere in the middle of the night one day. 🙁
 
Still here. 😛


Rice says Iran needs to respond 'within weeks'
http://www.kpho.com/Global/story.asp?S=4979357&nav=23Ku
VIENNA, Austria Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says Iran will not have much time to respond to an international offer of rewards aimed at halting its uranium enrichment. snip

In separate comments on National Public Radio, Rice suggested she's ready to meet her Iranian counterpart, if Tehran agrees to suspend the nuclear activity and negotiate the details of the deal. snip

Iran says it welcomes direct talks but rejects the condition that it first suspend uranium enrichment. Iran says its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes.


Bush says Iran has "weeks not months" to respond
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArtic...784_RTRUKOC_0_US-NUCLEAR-IRAN-BUSH.xml
CAMP DAVID, Maryland (Reuters) - President George W. Bush said on Friday that Iran has "weeks not months" to respond to a U.S.-backed offer aimed at containing Iran's nuclear ambitions and said Tehran needs to suspend uranium enrichment.

Bush said if Iran does not suspend enrichment, "there must be a consequence" and that it would be action taken in the U.N. Security Council.

"We have given the Iranians a limited period of time, weeks not months," to respond to an offer for an incentives package for Iran to ensure it does not pursue nuclear weapons, said Bush.


And, upon news of Iran's statement that they'll wait until mid-August to respond:

Bush: 2 months is too long for Iran's answer
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...D=/20060622/NEWS07/606220310/1001/NEWS
VIENNA, Austria -- President George W. Bush and European Union leaders said Wednesday a two-month delay by Iran is too long to respond to a package of incentives aimed at halting the Islamic republic's nuclear activities.

"It seems like an awful long time," to respond to a "reasonable proposal," Bush said in Vienna, where he and European leaders were concluding summit meetings. "I said weeks, not months. And I believe that's the view of our partners."

Austrian Chancellor Wolfgang Schuessel, speaking on behalf of the 25-nation EU, said it was the "right moment for Iran to take this offer to grab it and to negotiate. ... This is the carrot. Take it."

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said in a speech that his government is still studying the incentives. Iran will "review the proposals on the basis of our legitimate right and, God willing, we will give our opinion regarding the proposals toward the end of Mordad," the Iranian month ending Aug. 22, he said. And Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki, in Rome for talks, said that Bush "should not be in a hurry" for a response.

Mottaki said "no deadline was agreed upon" when the Europeans presented the proposal to Iran on June 6.

Uh, Dumbya? Aug. 22 is 8 weeks from today.

WTF is your hurry, Mr. Chickenhawk?
 
US accuses Iran over Iraqi Shias
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5108496.stm
The US military commander in Iraq has accused Iran of providing covert support
to Shia extremists in Iraq.

Iran equips and trains Shia militia groups, Gen George Casey said, adding
that its influence had risen recently.

Although the US has no evidence that Iranians were operating directly in Iraq,
Gen Casey said "surrogates" regularly attacked US troops.


:roll:


What about the Saudi surrogates? Hmmm? Why don't we invade Saudi Arabia?


Pathetic.
 
06/29/06 CNN Breaking

The United States and its Western allies have told Iran that an answer is needed by July 5 on whether Tehran will take part in nuclear talks, The Associated Press reports.



Or what? "serious consequences"? 😕


Seems the only timetables this administration likes are the ones that LEAD to war, not ENDING them.
 
The question, I guess, is what the consequences of Iran developing a nuclear weapon will be. If we knew what would happen, naturally, we would know what to do. So it seems all we can do is to guess using the intelligence we ( the Bush administration ) can bring to the table. One guess must obviously be that any bomb developed in Iran will be used in the West either by Iran or by terrorists. What are the probabilities of this and what is the correct response?

We do know, I hope, that how we see this is a reflection of who we are. The paranoid full of tremendous yet buried childhood trauma will see in the Iranians the monsters that haunt them and fools who repress all anxiety as too much to handle will naively assume no threat. Is there any hope we can judge this objectively based on objective evidence?

 
West Sets New Deadline for Iran: July 12
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4020873.html
VIENNA, Austria ? Western powers have set July 12 as a deadline for Iran to suspend uranium enrichment and agree to talks on its nuclear program or face the threat of U.N. Security Council sanctions, diplomats said Monday.

The diplomats also said that Russia and China were closer than ever before to supporting the West in seeking to pressure Iran by the threat of U.N. Security Council action, including sanctions, if Tehran refused a six-power package of incentives meant to wean it off enrichment.

Someone erased that line in the sand?
 
U.S. blames Iran, Syria for Hizbollah kidnappings :roll:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LA622138.htm
ROSTOCK, Germany, July 12 (Reuters) - The White House on Wednesday condemned the capture by Hizbollah guerrillas of two Israeli soldiers and blamed Syria and Iran for the attacks.

"We call for immediate and unconditional release of the two soldiers," said Frederick Jones, spokesman with the White House National Security Council. "We also hold Syria and Iran, which directly support Hizbollah, responsible for this attack and for the ensuing violence."

Where's the : puke; smiley?
 
US Navy preparing for blockade of Iran around Oct. 1?

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1535817,00.html
The first message was routine enough: a "Prepare to Deploy" order sent through naval communications channels to a submarine, an Aegis-class cruiser, two minesweepers and two mine hunters. The orders didn't actually command the ships out of port; they just said to be ready to move by Oct. 1. But inside the Navy those messages generated more buzz than usual last week when a second request, from the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO), asked for fresh eyes on long-standing U.S. plans to blockade two Iranian oil ports on the Persian Gulf.
 
So, OP, is it your assertion that:

a) Iran is NOT trying to develop nuclear weapons OR
b) We (the US) should allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons?

Take your pick, any other answer is just a symptom of rabidantibushitis.
 
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2473521&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad insisted Thursday that Tehran's nuclear program is peaceful and said he is "at a loss" about what more he can do to provide guarantees. "The bottom line is we do not need a bomb," he said at a news conference on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly.

Ahmadinejad said his country has not hidden anything and was working within the framework of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...5123&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
Iran's supreme leader has prohibited any use of nuclear weapons by his country, Iranian First Vice President Parziv Davoudi said Friday.

...

Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and other Iranian officials have said that under the Islamic thought, nuclear weapons are illegitimate.



In the meantime:


http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061009/lindorff
According to Lieut. Mike Kafka, a spokesman at the headquarters of the Second Fleet, based in Norfolk, Virginia, the Eisenhower Strike Group, bristling with Tomahawk cruise missiles, has received orders to depart the United States in a little over a week. Other official sources in the public affairs office of the Navy Department at the Pentagon confirm that this powerful armada is scheduled to arrive off the coast of Iran on or around October 21.


These bastards in the WH and the Pentagon WANT war!


How many Bush supporters (or Republicans in general) are ready to give up their lives and join the fight with Iran? My guess is about as many willing to vote for Hillary.
 
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