Iran NPT talks succesful

[Oric]

Details coming. Last night Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan flew to Tehran to assist Brazil's president Da Silva in mediation talks. It seems the enriched fuel swaps will be conducted in Turkey. Iran will stop enriching Uranium and will comply with the NPT.

 

[Freshgeardude]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/17/world/middleeast/17iran.html?src=mv

might want to add a link to you OP.

Good thing sanctions worked on iran, good thing this deal happened. hopefully iran wont be a threat for the forsaken future

 

[CycloWizard]

I hope this is true, but I'm not holding my breath. My money is that this is simply another bait-and-switch by Iran to buy more time. Why would they suddenly change course 180°? Because of some token sanctions?

 

[Rebel44]

I hope this is true, but I'm not holding my breath. My money is that this is simply another bait-and-switch by Iran to buy more time. Why would they suddenly change course 180°? Because of some token sanctions?

I agree.

 

[Mani]

Good news if true.

 

[Acanthus]

Has to be false, diplomacy never works and invading with a bloody 10 year occupation is the only answer.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

We'll see. "Success" is measured by results, not intent.

 

[Red Dawn]

All this treaty does is let Iran trade low grade enriched uranium (3.5&#37 for higher grade enriched uranium (20%). In addition Iran will continue to enrich uranium to 20%.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/05/17/iran.nuclear/?hpt=C1

 

[nonlnear]

We'll see. "Success" is measured by results, not intent.

In government success is measured by public opinion, not results.

 

[highland145]

All this treaty does is let Iran trade low grade enriched uranium (3.5%) for higher grade enriched uranium (20%). In addition Iran will continue to enrich uranium to 20%.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/05/17/iran.nuclear/?hpt=C1

Epic fail that will be touted as a win. And when the mushroom cloud is overhead, our politicians can say, "but, but, but, they said......."

 

[nick1985]

All this treaty does is let Iran trade low grade enriched uranium (3.5%) for higher grade enriched uranium (20%). In addition Iran will continue to enrich uranium to 20%.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/05/17/iran.nuclear/?hpt=C1

Yep. Thought the OP was too good to be true.


/sigh

 

[ElFenix]

meh, iran may have just been waiting around to give a rising power the chance to succeed where it wouldn't let the US do so. in that way embarrassing the US to some extent.

 

[spacejamz]

Tehran said it needs to enrich uranium from its current 3.5 percent to 20 percent because a research reactor that produces isotopes for cancer patients is running out of fuel.

<cough>Bullshit</cough>

 

[McWatt]

meh, iran may have just been waiting around to give a rising power the chance to succeed where it wouldn't let the US do so. in that way embarrassing the US to some extent.

I see you don't understand the relationship between Washington and Istanbul...

 

[Noobtastic]

Has to be false, diplomacy never works and invading with a bloody 10 year occupation is the only answer.

Diplomacy has failed for the last 30 years.

American foreign policy towards Islamist Iran has been distorted by the trade lobby.

it can be summed up as naive, surprise, and utter failure.

USA was "surprised" by the revolution in Iran, rapid consolidation of power, and taking American hostages at the embassy.

Then, there's naivity. For 30 years USA politicians on both sides have given every new leader in Iran the benefit of the doubt. We have clinged to the notion that a moderate or reformer will some day spring up in Iran, and change everything.

Today many academics, intellectuals, even our own DOD head Robert Gates has confessed the foreign policy of the last 30 years has been a major mistake.

We have been lied to over and over again, subject to one of the most intense propaganda campaigns bankrolled by trade lobbies and pro-engagement libs.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/231991

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/world/middleeast/18iran.html

Meticulous and persuasive analysis of why our current foreign policy is failure and what has to happen to disarm Iran:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/05/the_proengagement_lobby_and_us.html

Summed up, at this point there is no way to disarm Iran without a physical confrontation. Perhaps a decade ago major sanctions could have crippled the leadership and delayed or perhaps totally end Iran's nuclear program - as suggested by Israel in 2000, but instead Bush chose Iraq.

We even worked with Iran and coordinated our invasion with their leadership.

What a joke.

Turkey's been taken over by Islamists. Leadership has hunted the pro-secular military officers and imprisoned them for "treason."

Turkey's status as a free, secular muslim-majority state has always been predicated on the military.

But now that the Islamists have taken over, Turkey is now moving to Syria/Iran axis.

 

[werepossum]

I see you don't understand the relationship between Washington and Istanbul...

The relationship between Washington and Istanbul today is not much different that relationship between Washington and Tehran. Turkey has been largely taken over by the Islamicists, who have been careful this time to build a power base in the military. Previous attempts to Islamicize Turkey have been defeated by military coup, but I'm betting this one sticks.

And no, this has nothing to do with Walks-On-Water, he just happened to be President during its coming out.

 

[Lemon law]

Gee, since the deal is being brokered by Brazil also, surely makes it into a total Islamic conspiracy.

And since turning over 1200 pounds of lowly enriched enriched Uranium over for Turkish safe guarding would leave Iran without enough lowly enriched Uranium to build a U235 based bomb, it undercuts the propaganda FUD legs basis from Israel and the US, and that is clearly the worse thing that could happen to Israel or Hillary Clinton.

Because anything that is good for Iran is bad for Israel. Danger Danger Danger, Iran could save a bundle by developing its own peace time nuclear energy generation of electricity program, how dare they.

As IHV pointed out, the past 30 years of a failed US foreign policy of keeping Iran dependent has not worked, so by all means never change that failed policy.

 

[Oric]

Gee, since the deal is being brokered by Brazil also, surely makes it into a total Islamic conspiracy.

Lemon Law you have no idea how organized these Islamists are, they have secretly converted the whole Brazilian administration into an Islamevangalical cult.

 

[CycloWizard]

Lemon Law you have no idea how organized these Islamists are, they have secretly converted the whole Brazilian administration into an Islamevangalical cult.

Do you chuckleheads have any insight as to why any rational person would believe these claims, or are you too busy jerking each other off to give any useful commentary?

 

[SamurAchzar]

Do you chuckleheads have any insight as to why any rational person would believe these claims, or are you too busy jerking each other off to give any useful commentary?

It's very easy to support Muslim fundamentalism when you are thousands of miles away, protected by the US armed forces.

Support US nuclear disarmament on one hand, encourage the Iranian to get a bomb with the other. That's the face of 21st century liberals.

 

[CycloWizard]

It's very easy to support Muslim fundamentalism when you are thousands of miles away, protected by the US armed forces.

Support US nuclear disarmament on one hand, encourage the Iranian to get a bomb with the other. That's the face of 21st century liberals.

I'm not sure if I am just too cynical or if those who believe this are just that naive (or, dare I say, stupid/malicious). Either way, I'm standing by my earlier statement - no way will Iran stop now. They have no reason to do so.

 

[woodie1]

Just another bait and switch tactic by Iran.

 

[EagleKeeper]

By using Turkey and Brazil; Iran can save face by not giving into the Great Satan and Western Europe.

How this actually plays out is may be different story. Only time will tell.

 

[Oric]

It's very easy to support Muslim fundamentalism when you are thousands of miles away, protected by the US armed forces.

Support US nuclear disarmament on one hand, encourage the Iranian to get a bomb with the other. That's the face of 21st century liberals.

I am living in a country bordered both by Iran and (almost) Israel. If I have a reason to worry about Iran having a nuke, that reason is twentyfold true for Israel. International Agencies have no control over Israel nuclear facilities nor her (allegedly) big arsenal. I want my neighbours to either all of them have nukes (balance of power) or better none of them have it. As long as there is no pressure on Israel on her arsenal it is a hypocrisy to supress Iran or any other in the region about nuclear power.

It is very easy to claim about what is right or wrong about Middle East, thousands of kilometers away. Isn't it.

By the way I am a pork eating, beer drinking Muslim and things are pretty cool up here .. So much for fundamentalism you see on your media.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

I am living in a country bordered both by Iran and (almost) Israel. If I have a reason to worry about Iran having a nuke, that reason is twentyfold true for Israel. International Agencies have no control over Israel nuclear facilities nor her (allegedly) big arsenal. I want my neighbours to either all of them have nukes (balance of power) or better none of them have it. As long as there is no pressure on Israel on her arsenal it is a hypocrisy to supress Iran or any other in the region about nuclear power.

It is very easy to claim about what is right or wrong about Middle East, thousands of kilometers away. Isn't it.

By the way I am a pork eating, beer drinking Muslim and things are pretty cool up here .. So much for fundamentalism you see on your media.

When is the last time an Israeli political leader has openly supported a terrorist organizations which claimed to want to see Iran driven into the sea by any means necessary "God Willing"? Israel isn't the problem here so the deflection game you are playing is not going to work. Allowing a repressive and murderous religious regime (who has demonstrated no compunction to slaughter their own people when they ask for fair elections) to attain the capability to develop nukes is not what sane logical people would consider to be a good idea.