GTaudiophile
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No Lifer
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Nobody can really say. I believe that the Iranian leadership are not as suicidal as they let on. They do it for political reasons. Just as NK is not as crazy as it lets on. Both nations know that if they attack somebody fully they will be flattened. But they want to have people believe that maybe, just maybe, they are actually crazy enough to do it. If Iran got a nuke and it was detonated in Israel and possible to track back to Iran there would be a fireworks show and Iran knows this. And, despite the leadership saying whatever, in the end they enjoy being in power and don't want to wake up to a mushroom cloud anymore than the rest of us do.
There ARE crazy people who would like to see a nuclear war but I think by definition they are too crazy to really become ubiquitous in any nation's leadership.
Iran does? Your crazy container just keeps getting bigger. When we think it's overflowing you pour all that crazy into a bigger tank so that you can hold even more.
I'd make you a bet, give you 4:1 odds that they won't
Iran attacking Israel would be a huge mistake on their part. Right now, Iran has the sympathies and under-the-table dealings with Russia and China because the "big, bad evil Western Imperialists are pushing them around!". If Iran starts the attack, as opposed to being the "innocent victim of Western Imperialism", then all bets are off...it would be nearly impossible for Russia and China to support them if Iran was the one who initiated the conflict.
And LOL! at the comments that Iran is on par with Israel and has nukes that can reach the US. Yes, Iran is so advanced, they have satellites that fail days after going into orbit, and a rocket (loaded with frogs and bugs!) that comes crashing down to earth a few hours after launch.
The only logical angle I can see from this is Iran playing on the appeasement mentality of weak and naive political leaders, of which there are too many nowadays, unfortuantely.
And LOL! at the comments that Iran is on par with Israel and has nukes that can reach the US. Yes, Iran is so advanced, they have satellites that fail days after going into orbit, and a rocket (loaded with frogs and bugs!) that comes crashing down to earth a few hours after launch.
The only logical angle I can see from this is Iran playing on the appeasement mentality of weak and naive political leaders, of which there are too many nowadays, unfortuantely.
yllus
Elite Member & Lifer
- Aug 20, 2000
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New submarine(s)?
Haha, he's like a little kid trying to get an adult's attention by making up tall tales. Nobody indulge him and ask him to back it up, it'll drive him nuts to be ignored.
Haha, he's like a little kid trying to get an adult's attention by making up tall tales. Nobody indulge him and ask him to back it up, it'll drive him nuts to be ignored.
SamurAchzar
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Iran has been attacking Israel for years and years now, first through Hizballah (which is an Iranian extension in every way) and then through Hamas and Islam Jihad.
I was obviously talking about a direct confrontation, which this latest saber-rattling is clearly inferring. A punch in the face isn't very sneaky.
cubeless
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I was obviously talking about a direct confrontation, which this latest saber-rattling is clearly inferring. A punch in the face isn't very sneaky.
it is when you have some schlub deliver it for you...
These rogue nations despite all their hot air have a long history of steering themselves towards self preservation. I don't think this is any different.
StageLeft
No Lifer
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http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LDE6181A8.htm
Interesting timing. I do believe that Iran is going for a nuke. I just don't think they'll use one. It's a luxury being so far away and saying it, though. I can imagine that Israel is less content with such a consideration.
Interesting timing. I do believe that Iran is going for a nuke. I just don't think they'll use one. It's a luxury being so far away and saying it, though. I can imagine that Israel is less content with such a consideration.
Modelworks
Lifer
- Feb 22, 2007
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They put a satellite in orbit just recently, what if they use a missile to destroy that satellite now ?
shooting it down fits and would be a warning to the west that they could destroy our satellites used for observing them.
shooting it down fits and would be a warning to the west that they could destroy our satellites used for observing them.
Skitzer
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Skitzer
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That is a very interesting theory and perhaps the most likely scenario yet. Then again, what if the satellite itself has an as yet unknown capability? Hmmm...
I fucking hate waiting. LOL!
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OutHouse
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Not sure what he meant by that. The US cannot even shoot down its own satellites without vast amounts of preparation and considering Iran's space tech is about 45 years behind the US (I just read about them sending worms up on their rocket), I think they won't be shooting down any satellites any time soon.
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StageLeft
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/09/white-house-disappointed-irans-response-overtures/
Obama now also calling for more aggressive sanctions.
Obama now also calling for more aggressive sanctions.
Modelworks
Lifer
- Feb 22, 2007
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They are not 45 years behind the USA. They are about 10 years at most behind us. They didn't have to start from scratch, they got help from North Korea and Russia.
Maybe they are going to test launch a ICBM. In 2008 a lot of scientist said that they had the equipment to begin manufacturing and the only part of the design they had not accomplished at that time was implementing multi-stage, which they just did last year.
StageLeft
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If they are, the test will not go as hoped. You can bet on it. And they are much more than 10 years behind. 10 years ago the US had launched many shuttles, had satellites in orbit, etc. what has Iran done? Their space program is not even as far along as Canada's.
Modelworks
Lifer
- Feb 22, 2007
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Iran isn't concerned with putting a man on the moon. They have dedicated their resources to military purposes like rocket technology. In the last 5 years they have done more than we did in our first 30 years of working with the technology. That is the benefit they have, they can learn from others mistakes.
Iran scientist are not some ignorant people running around in the dark trying to put a missile together with duct tape. A lot of them are very good engineers who when supplied plans of existing designs will have no problem building them. The only thing holding them back is lack of resources.
Modelworks
Lifer
- Feb 22, 2007
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No it wouldn't . The missiles they are working on now are not some 50 year old design. They are based off 1999 designs from North Korea and Russia.
Ozoned
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