Iran demonstrates it's playing game regarding nukes- again.

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brandonb

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When Iran does this stuff they are trying to manipulate the rest of the world to playing their game. The big question, is do they dare use a nuclear weapon?

Someone asked do you see Iran invading other countries? The answer is yes. They support a terrorist group called Hezbolah. They use this terrorist group to take over other countries or destabilize their neighbors. Iran has also been engaged in a war with Iraq in the past. So where do all these rockets come from that are fired into Israel? Someone has to pay for them.

You watch too much TV...

We've created a mini cold war with Iran since we labeled them the axis of evil. We are the reason they seek nuclear weapons. We are the reason they support Hezbolah. We are the reason they send rockets to fire into Israel (which I don't believe is true anyhow. I don't think Iran has anything to do with arming Palestinians directly.)

So in other words. They are just playing the same game we've been playing with them for decades. Turnabout is fair play.
 

klinc

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I'm curious what difference you think the Ayatollah makes. Granted, he gets less press so I'm less certain with his words on various subjects. I do note that he claims weapons are against Islam. Wouldn't be the first time in history a person lied to get what they want.

The president of Iran is just there for diplomatic affairs. He basically do press conferences and talk shows. Normally the guy with the best smile and who can bullshit the public the best. He have no control over the military or any powers.

The Supreme leader have all the power over the military and he can do what he wants. He is not democratically elected. He can do what he wants without running it through anything or structure. If he decides today this country pissed him off he jusst tell his general to nuke them and they will do it,

That is what everyone is afraid of. Putting the power of such a powerful device into the hands of a single man

Supreme Leader has final control over all things in Iran: politics, judicial appointments, religion, media, military, foreign policy, and the presidency.

Islam can't be against it because nuclear weapons were not invented the time the Islam was created. Muhammad slaughtered everyone who opposed him so they are not against killing people IMO
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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You watch too much TV...

We've created a mini cold war with Iran since we labeled them the axis of evil. We are the reason they seek nuclear weapons. We are the reason they support Hezbolah. We are the reason they send rockets to fire into Israel (which I don't believe is true anyhow. I don't think Iran has anything to do with arming Palestinians directly.)

So in other words. They are just playing the same game we've been playing with them for decades. Turnabout is fair play.

So is my shooting your kids now for your grandfather shooting mine a couple decades ago. Want to play?

I've gone off on the past administration for that Axis speech, but understand that the consequences of our actions brought those to power who would have loved to kill us anyway. We didn't create them. Gave them an opportunity? Certainly. Well that sucks, but I'm not really interested in giving Immadinnerjack nukes as penance.

There's this idea that if he gets nukes he's going to launch at us. That's not happening, but what it does do is give an oppressive regime leverage locally. Anyone thinking Israel is the only hard ball player in the area hasn't been following the exploits of our "friends" which lead Iran these days.
 

Jhhnn

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Well call up the IAEA and tell them they are doing it wrong! I'm sure your professional credentials would impress them mightily.

Which is mere deflection from what I offered, mixed with false attributions wrt myself and the IAEA.
 

Jhhnn

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No they don't have them thanks to Israel. Stuxnet and the killing of those scientist have set them back a lot. You do not need enrichment plants to produce power. Only nuclear weapon states have them

False attribution on many levels. Any country that wants nuclear power free of the bullshit of international politics needs to be able to produce their own nuclear fuel. Several non- nuclear weapons states do so, in addition to Iran-

The following countries are known to operate enrichment facilities: Argentina, Brazil, China, France, Germany, India, Iran, Japan, the Netherlands, North Korea, Pakistan, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States.[17] Belgium, Iran, Italy, and Spain hold an investment interest in the French Eurodif enrichment plant, with Iran's holding entitling it to 10% of the enriched uranium output. Countries that had enrichment programs in the past include Libya and South Africa, although Libya's facility was never operational.[18] Australia has developed a laser enrichment[disambiguation needed] process known as SILEX, which it intends to pursue through financial investment in a U.S. commercial venture by General Electric.[19] It has also been claimed that Israel has a uranium enrichment program housed at the Negev Nuclear Research Center site near Dimona.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_uranium

Perhaps you could use facts to formulate your opinions.
 

Zebo

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If there ie one thing iraq lybia etc make clear is get nukes quick so that cant happen to you. US is to blame no one else for irans deceptions
 

klinc

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False attribution on many levels. Any country that wants nuclear power free of the bullshit of international politics needs to be able to produce their own nuclear fuel. Several non- nuclear weapons states do so, in addition to Iran-



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_uranium

Perhaps you could use facts to formulate your opinions.

The Almelo Treaty in 1970, signed by the UK, the Federal Republic of Germany and the Netherlands, created two tripartite consortia, each country holding a one-third partnership: URENCO, to sell enrichment services, and CENTEC, to manufacture the hundreds of thousands of centrifuges required.
That is the same enrichment plant Iran uses as a front cover and that is why they need uranium hexafluoride gas to pump it into a spinning centrifuge

Water reactors and AGRs require for their fuel a level of enrichment of
only 2 to 4 per cent. No need to go 20 percent because you can't pump 20 percent into a reactor that runs on 5 percent. BUt that is not the concern really as thats just a front.

Perhaps you could use facts to formulate your opinions.
Cute
But perhaps you should go look what enrichments plants are because you have no clue.

Why would one go and build plants for Heavy Water Production which costs anything from £100 per kilogram? Heavy water plants have no economical value for anything but to make highly enriched weapon grade uranium. The heavy water plant is the concern and Iran do not want to let anyone near them. That is where you create your 90 percent u-235. Currently Iran is constructing one at Arak.