IPv6 wired router?

[vailr]

Hello,
Leo Laporte had mentioned (during his brief Coast to Coast Radio Show appearance last week) that the IPv6 feature should probably be included when looking to purchase a new home router. My current Netgear model 614-v4 wired router doesn't include IPv6, but only IPv4. (Latest firmware installed).
My question: is it possible for an IPv4 router to be upgraded to IPv6, via simply a firmware update? Or, does IPv6 require new hardware?
Also: is there a list somewhere of IPv6 wired routers? I think I'd prefer staying with the Netgear brand, but they don't seem to offer any IPv6 wired routers, at the present time.
TIA

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Edit: received this reply from Netgear tech support:

"A firmware upgrade will not help your router-RP614v4 to support IPv6 configuration. The manufacture of wired home routers is considerably curtailed at present due to the evolution of wide range of wireless routers. I am afraid that even in future the availability of a wired home router to support IPv6 configuration is not feasible."

 

[spidey07]

LOL! v6 is not needed in anyway, shape or form for a SOHO router.

 

[kevnich2]

The only thing a SOHO router needs IP V6 for is the WAN IP side. There is absolutely no time that it'll ever be needed in a SOHO router. The entire internet right now still has IP V4 addresses and I don't forsee a SOHO router serving that many clients within the next couple hundred years atleast.

 

[vailr]

So I guess he (Leo Laporte) didn't know what he was talking about?

BTW: here's an IPv6 test site:
http://ipv4.whatismyv6.com/

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: vailr
So I guess he (Leo Laporte) didn't know what he was talking about?

BTW: here's an IPv6 test site:
http://ipv4.whatismyv6.com/

Not even clicking the site, obvious he has no idea what he is talking about.

 

[mcmilljb]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: vailr
So I guess he (Leo Laporte) didn't know what he was talking about?

BTW: here's an IPv6 test site:
http://ipv4.whatismyv6.com/

Not even clicking the site, obvious he has no idea what he is talking about.

It's not on his blog site. I've been trying to find his rant about ipv6 but can't. You definitely wouldn't like him spidey; his bio includes that he was a programmer lol.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: mcmilljb

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: vailr
So I guess he (Leo Laporte) didn't know what he was talking about?

BTW: here's an IPv6 test site:
http://ipv4.whatismyv6.com/

Not even clicking the site, obvious he has no idea what he is talking about.

It's not on his blog site. I've been trying to find his rant about ipv6 but can't. You definitely wouldn't like him spidey; his bio includes that he was a programmer lol.

LOL!

My instinct and spidey sense ring true.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Forget routers, good luck even finding a consumer ISP that will set you up with an IPv6 connection.

Sad how the US is so far behind the rest of the world. It's like USA versus the Metric System all over again. The rest of the world is moving to IPv6, and we aren't.

 

[kevnich2]

Sorry but the rest of the world isn't moving to IPv6. The one country that's farthest ahead in deployment is I believe Africa according to the latest news reports. No one is jumping through on IPv6 yet because nobody really believes it's that big of deal yet. When we run out of addresses, then people will switch. Until then, why spend money changing things when you can always wait a few more months/years. There isn't any other country including US that's going IPv6 yet.

 

[vailr]

There's some reports of people being hacked, when using Vista for example. I believe it involves IPv4-to-IPv6 "tunneling".
Vista and Mac OSX 10.5: both have IPv6 networking turned on by default. And some cell phones running Windows Mobile 5 & 6 might be accessed via IPv6, since they also have that feature enabled by default. So: it would seem prudent to have more control over IPv6 via a router firewall. But most home routers are not even aware of the IPv6 protocol, at all. (At least the wired routers, anyway).
Apple's Airport Extreme wired/wireless router includes IPv6, for example.
The U.S. Department of Defense has mandated since June 2008 that all of their networks should be IPv6 "aware".

 

[JackMDS]

Originally posted by: vailr
So I guess he (Leo Laporte) didn't know what he was talking about?

BTW: here's an IPv6 test site:
http://ipv4.whatismyv6.com/

Some SOHO Routers are IPv6 compatible on the switch side.

However my guess would be that some manufacturer are ready to start release Routers that would support IPv6, and Mr. Laporte is paid handsomely to start the next Fleecing of consumers that have money, overdose of Social Desirability, and are a short on real technical knowledge.

LOL, so now the "Technology Six Pack Joe" would spend on Draft-N IPv6 when he just finish the last payment on the useless None IPv6 Draft-N.

 

[vailr]

Originally posted by: kevnich2
The one country that's farthest ahead in deployment is I believe Africa according to the latest news reports.

Africa is not a country, last time I checked. It's more accurately: a continent.

 

[vailr]

Originally posted by: JackMDS

Originally posted by: vailr
So I guess he (Leo Laporte) didn't know what he was talking about?

BTW: here's an IPv6 test site:
http://ipv4.whatismyv6.com/

Some SOHO Routers are IPv6 compatible on the switch side.

However my guess would be that some manufacturer are ready to start release Routers that would support IPv6, and Mr. Laporte is paid handsomely to start the next Fleecing of consumers that have money, overdose of Social Desirability, and are a short on real technical knowledge.

That's why I posed the question, as to whether a firmware upgrade is theoretically possible. For enabling IPv6 on any current IPv4 wired routers, such as my Netgear model 614-v4.
Any ideas about that?
I really don't think it's "fleecing the consumer", if only for avoiding possible security problems when using Vista, OSX 10.5.x, or Windows Mobile 5 & 6. If the Department of Defense is worried about it, shouldn't "Joe Sixpack" average American also be: at least vaguely interested?

It may be that the only security threat via IPv6 would be through a Wi-Fi or Bluetooth wireless connection. Thus, no need for IPv6 on "wired-only" routers. But I haven't read anything to confirm such.

 

[JackMDS]

Given that WPA2 is available for WIFI, there is No reason to worry about IPv4 security.

 

[cmetz]

vailr, don't take your network engineering advice from a radio show. Just not good.

Do you have a problem for which IPv6 is the solution? What is it?

If you really want IPv6 support, you can get third-party firmware for WRT54G routers such as OpenWRT, and that will have IPv6 support brought to you by Linux. I don't believe that I've ever seen a vendor officially support IPv6 in SOHO gear.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Does DD-WRT support IPv6?

Edit: Thanks for that link. It looks somewhat complex. I'll look forward to the day when we don't need IPv4 to IPv6 interoperability, and are all on a clean IPv6 network.

 

[JackMDS]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Does DD-WRT support IPv6?

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6

 

[vailr]

^ bump ^

Still looking for a "wired only" 4-port home router that supports IPv6.
Also: whether a firmware update would enable support, or whether updated hardware would be required.
Thanks.

Note: please keep your "you don't need it" comments for some other occasion.

 

[darkewaffle]

Somewhat up to date on the subject
http://www.theage.com.au/technology...esses-run-dry-20100726-10r83.html?autostart=1

As for whether you'd need a firmware or hardware upgrade, there's no way to know. Off hand, I would guess that the older the device is the more likely it will just need replaced, with most modern smart devices capable of it with a firmware upgrade.

Still don't need it though.

 

[Murloc]

a guy on the radio told you to buy an ipv6 router, and you're gonna do it.
I can't believe you're serious.
If someone is doing a radio show is because he's good at talking, not because he actually understands things.

Just get a ipv4 wired router, it doesn't cost much, and buy an ipv6 router when the time comes (if you buy a router now it will be old and out-dated in a few years anyway).

 

[seepy83]

If you're concerned with vulnerabilities in IPv6-over-IPv4 (AKA Teredo), then just block UDP Port 3544 at the edge of your network (router or firewall).

 

[VirtualLarry]

My recently-purchased Dlink DIR-615 E1 revision sports an "IPv6" logo on the box. I suppose that means that it is IPv6 ready?

 

[Gooberlx2]

What, for a home user, actually utilizes ipv6? I think homegroups in Windows 7 uses it with available/capable hardware, but I can't think of anything other than that...

 

[alfa147x]

So if I disable IPv6 on my computer it won't change anything? So this raises the question, who uses IPv6?

 

[Arcanedeath]

Windows 7 Homegroups requires IPv6 to work correctly. Thats about the only use i could see for v6 at this point, and you can run both v4 and v6 at the same time even if your router doesn't support it as long as the switch does your still ok for local traffic.