Ipod saves lives

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
an ipod would definitely slow down the bullet if the back was metal, which it looks to have be. if the bullet is slowed down by even 2%, and the force of which the body armor can absorb is most definitely non-linear, the top 2% it absorbed would probably be enough to take the edge off of a high speed round. i think it would have to hit just right to make any type of noticeable difference, but its certainly possible, especially if it hit the part of the ipod with the most density.

Isn't the metal used in iPods as well as most MP3 players very thin?

What do you think the Hard Drive is made of

Thats a decent amount of metal right there.

 

[JohnCU]

house used an ipod in season 2 episode 2 to hear a tumor on a girl's heart.

 

[Hyperlite]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
house used an ipod in season 2 episode 2 to hear a tumor on a girl's heart.

ORLY? what sound did that tumor make?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Its not even that, when the bullt hits something with anywhere near the thickness/hardness of an Ipod, it will

1. Start deforming which makes it a lot easier for the armor to stop it, if the bullet does go though

2. The ipod will spread the impact over its entire surface area, drastically taking away kinetic energy quickly

Ah, makes sense.

I can't find the website that I'm looking for, so hopefully someone else can post a link... there is a guy who does shooting "experiments" where he fires a gun through sheets of drywall and other materials. If an iPod could deform and slow down a bullet enough to make a difference, then you'd think that 3 or 4 sheets of drywall would stop that same bullet, but that's not the case.

I think it goes without saying that if he JUST had the iPod and not the body armor, the bullet would have easily penetrated him. I think it's pretty likely that with JUST the body armor and not the iPod, the outcome would have been the same as what happened with iPod + body armor. I'm not sure what the point would be of equiping our troops with body armor that won't even stop a NATO-standard round.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: JohnCU
house used an ipod in season 2 episode 2 to hear a tumor on a girl's heart.

ORLY? what sound did that tumor make?

It sounded like Linkin Park.

CRAAAAAAAAAAWLLLINNNNNG IN MY SKIN!

 

[Hyperlite]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Its not even that, when the bullt hits something with anywhere near the thickness/hardness of an Ipod, it will

1. Start deforming which makes it a lot easier for the armor to stop it, if the bullet does go though

2. The ipod will spread the impact over its entire surface area, drastically taking away kinetic energy quickly

Ah, makes sense.

I can't find the website that I'm looking for, so hopefully someone else can post a link... there is a guy who does shooting "experiments" where he fires a gun through sheets of drywall and other materials. If an iPod could deform and slow down a bullet enough to make a difference, then you'd think that 3 or 4 sheets of drywall would stop that same bullet, but that's not the case.

I think it goes without saying that if he JUST had the iPod and not the body armor, the bullet would have easily penetrated him. I think it's pretty likely that with JUST the body armor and not the iPod, the outcome would have been the same as what happened with iPod + body armor. I'm not sure what the point would be of equiping our troops with body armor that won't even stop a NATO-standard round.

and that brings up another good point in that the AK-47, being the most popular weapon among, well, all third world countries...there shouldn't be an ounce of body armor being equipped on our soldiers that can't stop an AK round.

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Its not even that, when the bullt hits something with anywhere near the thickness/hardness of an Ipod, it will

1. Start deforming which makes it a lot easier for the armor to stop it, if the bullet does go though

2. The ipod will spread the impact over its entire surface area, drastically taking away kinetic energy quickly

Ah, makes sense.

I can't find the website that I'm looking for, so hopefully someone else can post a link... there is a guy who does shooting "experiments" where he fires a gun through sheets of drywall and other materials. If an iPod could deform and slow down a bullet enough to make a difference, then you'd think that 3 or 4 sheets of drywall would stop that same bullet, but that's not the case.

I think it goes without saying that if he JUST had the iPod and not the body armor, the bullet would have easily penetrated him. I think it's pretty likely that with JUST the body armor and not the iPod, the outcome would have been the same as what happened with iPod + body armor. I'm not sure what the point would be of equiping our troops with body armor that won't even stop a NATO-standard round.

and that brings up another good point in that the AK-47, being the most popular weapon among, well, all third world countries...there shouldn't be an ounce of body armor being equipped on our soldiers that can't stop an AK round.

But this was supposedly nearly point-blank range (a few feet?).

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Its not even that, when the bullt hits something with anywhere near the thickness/hardness of an Ipod, it will

1. Start deforming which makes it a lot easier for the armor to stop it, if the bullet does go though

2. The ipod will spread the impact over its entire surface area, drastically taking away kinetic energy quickly

Ah, makes sense.

I can't find the website that I'm looking for, so hopefully someone else can post a link... there is a guy who does shooting "experiments" where he fires a gun through sheets of drywall and other materials. If an iPod could deform and slow down a bullet enough to make a difference, then you'd think that 3 or 4 sheets of drywall would stop that same bullet, but that's not the case.

I think it goes without saying that if he JUST had the iPod and not the body armor, the bullet would have easily penetrated him. I think it's pretty likely that with JUST the body armor and not the iPod, the outcome would have been the same as what happened with iPod + body armor. I'm not sure what the point would be of equiping our troops with body armor that won't even stop a NATO-standard round.

I believe the vast majority of the US troops over there should have Interceptor-type or greater body armor, but there were huge issues with proper protection at the beginning of the war. Troops were wearing older style protective vests that couldn't stop the round.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Everyone should just wear modified Flak Vests. heavy as hell, but stops most everything with a fairly high success rate.

Just stick a inch of titanium into them, and boom, instant protection

 

[Hyperlite]

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Its not even that, when the bullt hits something with anywhere near the thickness/hardness of an Ipod, it will

1. Start deforming which makes it a lot easier for the armor to stop it, if the bullet does go though

2. The ipod will spread the impact over its entire surface area, drastically taking away kinetic energy quickly

Ah, makes sense.

I can't find the website that I'm looking for, so hopefully someone else can post a link... there is a guy who does shooting "experiments" where he fires a gun through sheets of drywall and other materials. If an iPod could deform and slow down a bullet enough to make a difference, then you'd think that 3 or 4 sheets of drywall would stop that same bullet, but that's not the case.

I think it goes without saying that if he JUST had the iPod and not the body armor, the bullet would have easily penetrated him. I think it's pretty likely that with JUST the body armor and not the iPod, the outcome would have been the same as what happened with iPod + body armor. I'm not sure what the point would be of equiping our troops with body armor that won't even stop a NATO-standard round.

and that brings up another good point in that the AK-47, being the most popular weapon among, well, all third world countries...there shouldn't be an ounce of body armor being equipped on our soldiers that can't stop an AK round.

But this was supposedly nearly point-blank range (a few feet?).

do they not test body armor at point-blank range? i would think it would be common sense when equipping or designing for urban combat.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Its not even that, when the bullt hits something with anywhere near the thickness/hardness of an Ipod, it will

1. Start deforming which makes it a lot easier for the armor to stop it, if the bullet does go though

2. The ipod will spread the impact over its entire surface area, drastically taking away kinetic energy quickly

Ah, makes sense.

I can't find the website that I'm looking for, so hopefully someone else can post a link... there is a guy who does shooting "experiments" where he fires a gun through sheets of drywall and other materials. If an iPod could deform and slow down a bullet enough to make a difference, then you'd think that 3 or 4 sheets of drywall would stop that same bullet, but that's not the case.

I think it goes without saying that if he JUST had the iPod and not the body armor, the bullet would have easily penetrated him. I think it's pretty likely that with JUST the body armor and not the iPod, the outcome would have been the same as what happened with iPod + body armor. I'm not sure what the point would be of equiping our troops with body armor that won't even stop a NATO-standard round.

and that brings up another good point in that the AK-47, being the most popular weapon among, well, all third world countries...there shouldn't be an ounce of body armor being equipped on our soldiers that can't stop an AK round.

But this was supposedly nearly point-blank range (a few feet?).

do they not test body armor at point-blank range? i would think it would be common sense when equipping or designing for urban combat.

They do, but point blank range rarely happens even urban combat.

They usually test it from a decent distance

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: JohnCU
house used an ipod in season 2 episode 2 to hear a tumor on a girl's heart.

ORLY? what sound did that tumor make?

haha it was just an extra flap that you heard with the heart beating.

 

[lyssword]

The multi-layered circuit board is pretty tough too, if you ever tried to break a motherboard

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: Ricemarine

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Alone
I seriously doubt the iPod slowed the bullet enough to make the armor effective enough to stop it.

Seriously. I don't think it'd even slow a .22 bullet down very much.

Didn't it say he had body armor on?

I think we're arguing that the iPod didn't slow the bullet enough to be the reason the bullet didn't penetrate. I'm no arms expert, but I don't think an iPod would be even a slight factor in this.

IMO, people overestimate the kinetic energy of a bullet. An iPod's casing is made of metal, with a thick layer of plastic, and a metal harddrive in the middle. Of course it's going to slow down a bullet.

Edit: Also, the iPod would have been pushed back a little. It's not like it just breaks and absorbs energy that way.

 

[Smartazz]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
house used an ipod in season 2 episode 2 to hear a tumor on a girl's heart.

lol, I just saw that episode a couple days ago too.

 

[Goosemaster]

looks like they added flac[k] support

 

[tasmanian]

That ipod looks like it was hit in the top right corner. Which the harddrive doesnt touch. I think an inch thick titanium plate would be awsome body armor.