ipod, i will no longer defend thee

[theNEOone]

well, i had battery problems w/ my mini. with the release of the zen micro i think i've finally found a replacement......removable 12hr batter x 2 - w00t.


=|

 

[Anubis]

yea it looks really sweet


and im supprise it didnt get more talk here

 

[CraigRT]

Agree, most hdd based MP3 players are better than iPod... the girlfriend has a 3rd gen or whatever 20GB model and it definitely is not perfect!

 

[Gurck]

I like this thread

 

[DaWhim]

my pda>*

 

[MX2]

interesting....I have a teen family member interested in an Ipod for Christmas. Now I may consider something else

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: MX2times
interesting....I have a teen family member interested in an Ipod for Christmas. Now I may consider something else

Probably best to stick with it, all teens care about is what their friends think and iPods are trendy to the MTV crowd.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: CraigRT
Agree, most hdd based MP3 players are better than iPod... the girlfriend has a 3rd gen or whatever 20GB model and it definitely is not perfect!

For me iTunes is what sells the iPod. Now, I may have a slightly different music selection compared with your average MP3 listener - I follow DMB fan recordings at concerts and therefore have 30+ variations on the more popular songs. iTunes's soup-style music library view allows me to create 'Best of' compilations easily by sorting by name and going through the list.

You can use iTunes with an MP3 player besides the iPod, it's just not as convinent.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: CraigRT
Agree, most hdd based MP3 players are better than iPod... the girlfriend has a 3rd gen or whatever 20GB model and it definitely is not perfect!

For me iTunes is what sells the iPod. Now, I may have a slightly different music selection compared with your average MP3 listener - I follow DMB fan recordings at concerts and therefore have 30+ variations on the more popular songs. iTunes's soup-style music library view allows me to create 'Best of' compilations easily by sorting by name and going through the list.

You can use iTunes with an MP3 player besides the iPod, it's just not as convinent.

I have a lot of DMB, Phish, and Dead bootlegs and have no trouble organizing them and listening to my favorites without iBloat... and what does your PC's player have to do with your portable player?

Edit: iBugs makes you put your music all in the same directory, yes? I can see how that would confuse people who want different songs with the same filenames, if they don't understand directory structure and that there are alternatives... but ATers should really know at least the basics...

 

[Stark]

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: CraigRT
Agree, most hdd based MP3 players are better than iPod... the girlfriend has a 3rd gen or whatever 20GB model and it definitely is not perfect!

For me iTunes is what sells the iPod. Now, I may have a slightly different music selection compared with your average MP3 listener - I follow DMB fan recordings at concerts and therefore have 30+ variations on the more popular songs. iTunes's soup-style music library view allows me to create 'Best of' compilations easily by sorting by name and going through the list.

You can use iTunes with an MP3 player besides the iPod, it's just not as convinent.

x2

 

[Rudee]

I switched to the RIO Carbon and I couldn't be happier. 5gigs of storage, 20 hours of battery life, smaller than the ipod mini. Terrific!!

 

[randomlinh]

problem w/ the rio carbon is it seems that the only way to use it well is in your right hand... and the zen micro is fugly and I don't like the vertical scroll

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: lnguyen
problem w/ the rio carbon is it seems that the only way to use it well is in your right hand... and the zen micro is fugly and I don't like the vertical scroll

ummm all the carbons buttons are on the front, just like the ipod, how is that right hand only?

 

My Zenxtra for $179 (30gig) is the best mp3 player i have used yet.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: CraigRT
Agree, most hdd based MP3 players are better than iPod... the girlfriend has a 3rd gen or whatever 20GB model and it definitely is not perfect!

For me iTunes is what sells the iPod. Now, I may have a slightly different music selection compared with your average MP3 listener - I follow DMB fan recordings at concerts and therefore have 30+ variations on the more popular songs. iTunes's soup-style music library view allows me to create 'Best of' compilations easily by sorting by name and going through the list.

You can use iTunes with an MP3 player besides the iPod, it's just not as convinent.

I have a lot of DMB, Phish, and Dead bootlegs and have no trouble organizing them and listening to my favorites without iBloat... and what does your PC's player have to do with your portable player?

Edit: iBugs makes you put your music all in the same directory, yes? I can see how that would confuse people who want different songs with the same filenames, if they don't understand directory structure and that there are alternatives... but ATers should really know at least the basics...

No, actually iTunes will place your music in the normal Artist-Album folder arrangement that most people use. You have to toggle on the "Organise my music library" option.

I'm confused about your question though... Why would I want a seperate music library on my portable vs. on my computer? Ideally, I want one library, with both the comptuer and the portable having identical copies. iPod + iTunes makes this brain-dead simple.

I also don't understand the iBloat comment. I have a library of 2000+ songs, with both ID3v1.1 and ID3v2 tags because SageTV doesn't understand ID3v2. Playing, iTunes consumes 13,600kb of memory. I just checked. Firefox with two windows open consumes 35,236kb. Explorer.exe, with no windows open consumes 14,060kb. Svchost.exe, which manages SMB shares, etc. consumes 10,536kb with no active connections aside from my TCP/IP to the internet.

I've got 1GB of memory. 16MB isn't exactly breaking the bank.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: lnguyen
problem w/ the rio carbon is it seems that the only way to use it well is in your right hand... and the zen micro is fugly and I don't like the vertical scroll

ummm all the carbons buttons are on the front, just like the ipod, how is that right hand only?

Psst, don't argue logic when dealing with ipod fanboiz, they won't understand the concept till another five years or so (at 16).

Originally posted by: TerryMathews
No, actually iTunes will place your music in the normal Artist-Album folder arrangement that most people use. You have to toggle on the "Organise my music library" option.

I'm confused about your question though... Why would I want a seperate music library on my portable vs. on my computer? Ideally, I want one library, with both the comptuer and the portable having identical copies. iPod + iTunes makes this brain-dead simple.

I also don't understand the iBloat comment. I have a library of 2000+ songs, with both ID3v1.1 and ID3v2 tags because SageTV doesn't understand ID3v2. Playing, iTunes consumes 13,600kb of memory. I just checked. Firefox with two windows open consumes 35,236kb. Explorer.exe, with no windows open consumes 14,060kb. Svchost.exe, which manages SMB shares, etc. consumes 10,536kb with no active connections aside from my TCP/IP to the internet.

I've got 1GB of memory. 16MB isn't exactly breaking the bank.

Ahh, so that's why it runs as fast as an asthmatic snail, thanks for clearing that up!! :laugh:

 

[Rudee]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: lnguyen
problem w/ the rio carbon is it seems that the only way to use it well is in your right hand... and the zen micro is fugly and I don't like the vertical scroll

ummm all the carbons buttons are on the front, just like the ipod, how is that right hand only?

Psst, don't argue logic when dealing with ipod fanboiz, they won't understand the concept till another five years or so (at 16).

I'm assuming he's referring to the thumb scroll wheel that's located on the upper right edge of the Carbon., thus yes, it's much easier for right-hander's. And yes, the Carbon kicks the iPod Mini's butt.

 

[LtPage1]

Originally posted by: CraigRT
Agree, most hdd based MP3 players are better than iPod... the girlfriend has a 3rd gen or whatever 20GB model and it definitely is not perfect!

blasphemy! which is designed by apple? ...that's what i thought. she is the flawed one.

 

[upsciLLion]

No problems with mine. Do you have any Applecare left for it? I'm sure you can purchase more. I'm sure it's less than buying another Mp3 player. Though you probably have already.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Rudee

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: lnguyen
problem w/ the rio carbon is it seems that the only way to use it well is in your right hand... and the zen micro is fugly and I don't like the vertical scroll

ummm all the carbons buttons are on the front, just like the ipod, how is that right hand only?

Psst, don't argue logic when dealing with ipod fanboiz, they won't understand the concept till another five years or so (at 16).

I'm assuming he's referring to the thumb scroll wheel that's located on the upper right edge of the Carbon., thus yes, it's much easier for right-hander's. And yes, the Carbon kicks the iPod Mini's butt.

yes the wheel, i don't know how the hell he didn't know

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: TerryMathews
No, actually iTunes will place your music in the normal Artist-Album folder arrangement that most people use. You have to toggle on the "Organise my music library" option.

I'm confused about your question though... Why would I want a seperate music library on my portable vs. on my computer? Ideally, I want one library, with both the comptuer and the portable having identical copies. iPod + iTunes makes this brain-dead simple.

I also don't understand the iBloat comment. I have a library of 2000+ songs, with both ID3v1.1 and ID3v2 tags because SageTV doesn't understand ID3v2. Playing, iTunes consumes 13,600kb of memory. I just checked. Firefox with two windows open consumes 35,236kb. Explorer.exe, with no windows open consumes 14,060kb. Svchost.exe, which manages SMB shares, etc. consumes 10,536kb with no active connections aside from my TCP/IP to the internet.

I've got 1GB of memory. 16MB isn't exactly breaking the bank.

Ahh, so that's why it runs as fast as an asthmatic snail, thanks for clearing that up!! :laugh:

Slow as an asthmatic snail? What are you running it on, a 486SX?

 

[cheesehead]

Interested in selling your Mini? I'm one of those freaks who delights in fixing bits of broken machinery, even if it greatly increases the chances that it will explode in my pocket.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Rudee

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: lnguyen
problem w/ the rio carbon is it seems that the only way to use it well is in your right hand... and the zen micro is fugly and I don't like the vertical scroll

ummm all the carbons buttons are on the front, just like the ipod, how is that right hand only?

Psst, don't argue logic when dealing with ipod fanboiz, they won't understand the concept till another five years or so (at 16).

I'm assuming he's referring to the thumb scroll wheel that's located on the upper right edge of the Carbon., thus yes, it's much easier for right-hander's. And yes, the Carbon kicks the iPod Mini's butt.

yes the wheel, i don't know how the hell he didn't know

your index finger broken?