iPhone 6

[RaulF]

I'll definitely be getting one. The battery on my 5 is on it's last legs plus I really want a larger screen. I'd like the 5.5" variant (if it exists) but with the physical home button I think it's going to be a massive device. I'll likely end up with a 32GB 4.7. I'm really hoping they finally move the base model to 32GB and ditch the 16GB madness. I've been with iOS since the 4S and don't see myself moving away in the forceable future.

Apple did a recall on some iphone 5 battery's.

Might want to check if yours qualifies.

 

[boomhower]

Apple did a recall on some iphone 5 battery's.



Might want to check if yours qualifies.

I did and it's not. I work in a car most of the time so I rarely rely on the battery. Was out if town for some training last week and I would kill half the battery between 0700 and 1200. This was a classroom deal so that's just using it on breaks. Pretty bad.

 

[kyrax12]

Problem with iPhone is that you can't use them as flash drives and you basically have to use Itunes for everything.. (Not counting Jailbreaking)

 

[sgrinavi]

Problem with iPhone is that you can't use them as flash drives and you basically have to use Itunes for everything.. (Not counting Jailbreaking)

I think there's more problems than that if you ask some of the Apple haters around here, but for work it's hard to beat the integration with mail/calendar/contacts, it's dog-shit simple, it just works - no hassle.

 

[lifelikerob]

Problem with iPhone is that you can't use them as flash drives and you basically have to use Itunes for everything.. (Not counting Jailbreaking)

Oh yes! I was an Android user for long long time so for me it was a normal thing to download for example a song from a browser so I can listen to it without any wifi or 3g. With iPhone you have to download a song, add it to itunes, connect your phone, syncronize it and only after that you can enjoy. Too much fuss.

 

[Red Storm]

I think there's more problems than that if you ask some of the Apple haters around here, but for work it's hard to beat the integration with mail/calendar/contacts, it's dog-shit simple, it just works - no hassle.

Mail/calendar/contacts is dead simple on Android, iOS, or Windows Phone.

I used to think that the iPhone was the "It just works" phone, until my mom got a 5S (her first smartphone). It did not "just work", there was quite a bit of hassle and learning and changing settings. That's obviously not unique to iPhones, for people who aren't technically inclined all smartphone OSes are the same, in that they each have a slight learning curve to get basic functionality working. Once they understand the basics, they are for the most part good to go. When the phone does something a certain way, it's not that they prefer it that way, most often they are unaware that they can change it to something more to their liking, and they just assume that's how it works.

The one thing that is dead simple about the iPhone is the homescreen, and that's because there are no real options to it, what you see is all you get.

 

[Anubis]

My wife is looking forward to the 4.7" version. Really the only thing she wants is a larger screen (but not very large) and better battery life. While initially pretty good, after 1 year her battery life is pretty bad under moderate use. Even if everything else was the same, she'd be happy.

I'm not looking forward to paying $750 + tax for a 32GB phone, but that's life. I will say I don't believe the leaks/renders are accurate b/c frankly I think they look terrible. Apple has always had great industrial designs, I can't see them screwing up here.

start bracing for the disappointment now

 

[TheStu]

Oh yes! I was an Android user for long long time so for me it was a normal thing to download for example a song from a browser so I can listen to it without any wifi or 3g. With iPhone you have to download a song. Too much fuss.

FTFY.

No, you can't just download an MP3 from any old site (actually, I'm not 100% sure about that. It's not something that I do), but you don't even need iTunes or a computer anymore, not for a couple of years at least.

I can buy things through the iTunes store on my phone, and they download right away. AND, they will auto-download (if you have it enabled) to any other iDevices you have under your account, and to your computers as well.

And you don't need the computer AT ALL if you don't want it. You can backup your phone to iCloud over wifi.

 

[Red Storm]

FTFY.

No, you can't just download an MP3 from any old site (actually, I'm not 100% sure about that. It's not something that I do), but you don't even need iTunes or a computer anymore, not for a couple of years at least.

I can buy things through the iTunes store on my phone, and they download right away. AND, they will auto-download (if you have it enabled) to any other iDevices you have under your account, and to your computers as well.

And you don't need the computer AT ALL if you don't want it. You can backup your phone to iCloud over wifi.

But that's his point, with the iPhone you have to use iTunes. If you're only getting that media from the iTunes store then sure, but obviously that should just work without any hassle. When you're media is on the internet, or on your computer, that is when the iPhone becomes annoying.

 

[Eug]

Mail/calendar/contacts is dead simple on Android, iOS, or Windows Phone.

I used to think that the iPhone was the "It just works" phone, until my mom got a 5S (her first smartphone). It did not "just work", there was quite a bit of hassle and learning and changing settings. That's obviously not unique to iPhones, for people who aren't technically inclined all smartphone OSes are the same, in that they each have a slight learning curve to get basic functionality working. Once they understand the basics, they are for the most part good to go. When the phone does something a certain way, it's not that they prefer it that way, most often they are unaware that they can change it to something more to their liking, and they just assume that's how it works.

The one thing that is dead simple about the iPhone is the homescreen, and that's because there are no real options to it, what you see is all you get.

I would disagree. Both aren't dead easy anymore, but Android is a lot less consistent IMHO, and the behaviour is less predictable. It's also more complicated to configure, even for basic usage.

Note, I am only talking about the stock ROM on Nexus devices.

But I do agree that the iPhone 5s was less of a It Just Works device than previous models. I am not sure why, but there are a few things I think that contributed to this, one of which was the fact that it was a new leader (Jon Ive) who is a hardware guy, leading a total revamp of the software interface - iOS 7. Also, personally I wish I could delete twitter and Facebook and Sina Weibo for that matter, and all that other crap off my phone, but I can't because it's completely integrated. The other thing is that mobile OSes are just more complicated in general these days.

 

[blairharrington]

I am concerned about how iOS handles notifications. With Active Display it's perfect IMO. Losing AD will truly suck.

But even the notification shade, if I recall correctly, kinda sucks in iOS in that you can't swipe away notifications but rather must tap a small x. I think???

It also drives me nuts that you still can't disable the lock screen entirely in iOS as you can with Android. My only hope is that Touch ID is super fast with respect to unlocking your phone. I refuse to constantly swipe to unlock throughout the day. A non-issue on my iPad as I have a smart cover.

Also, to those curious, there was a recent Foxconn leaked that seemed very legit with respect to both models dimensions.

4.7" will be 138 mm x 67 mm x 6.9 mm. Weight unknown.

5.5" will be 158 mm x 78 mm x 7.1 mm. 184.6 grams.

 

[sgrinavi]

Mail/calendar/contacts is dead simple on Android, iOS, or Windows Phone.

I used to think that the iPhone was the "It just works" phone, until my mom got a 5S (her first smartphone). It did not "just work", there was quite a bit of hassle and learning and changing settings. That's obviously not unique to iPhones, for people who aren't technically inclined all smartphone OSes are the same, in that they each have a slight learning curve to get basic functionality working. Once they understand the basics, they are for the most part good to go. When the phone does something a certain way, it's not that they prefer it that way, most often they are unaware that they can change it to something more to their liking, and they just assume that's how it works.

The one thing that is dead simple about the iPhone is the homescreen, and that's because there are no real options to it, what you see is all you get.

The integration with outlook is not as simple on the Android device. It's not bad on the Windows device, but since all your mail is in one place I would still give the nod to iOs.

I get what you're saying about a brand new user, and I'm sure that's very true. I'm hardly a brand new user, I cut my teeth on Android phones, but still find iOs easier to integrate and set up.

 

[Axon]

start bracing for the disappointment now

I must agree. THe photos I have seen look legit and I was disappointed by them. But I guess we'll know Sept. 9.

 

[maevinj]

The integration with outlook is not as simple on the Android device. It's not bad on the Windows device, but since all your mail is in one place I would still give the nod to iOs.

I get what you're saying about a brand new user, and I'm sure that's very true. I'm hardly a brand new user, I cut my teeth on Android phones, but still find iOs easier to integrate and set up.

Actually, having all of your mail accounts in one app is what I don't like about iOS. When I was on it, I use to use the mail app for work and the Gmail app for my other email. The thing I like about WP is it makes separate icons for each mail account.

 

[purbeast0]

i'll be grabbing it as soon as it's available to preorder. i'm still on my OG ip4 when verizon first released it, and it's painful to use. i've been saying i'm going to upgrade since the 5 came out, but i just didn't.

if they release 2 different sizes, i'll probably get the one with the smaller screen. do not want anything close to 5.5".

 

[AznAnarchy99]

It also drives me nuts that you still can't disable the lock screen entirely in iOS as you can with Android. My only hope is that Touch ID is super fast with respect to unlocking your phone. I refuse to constantly swipe to unlock throughout the day. A non-issue on my iPad as I have a smart cover.

I've been using TouchID since it came out on the 5S and it really is amazing. The only time I ever have to enter in my code is if my hands are wet. It works so well that I really noticed it after I did a reset of my phone and forgot to set up touch right away. I kept pulling my phone out of my pocket expecting it to open automatically.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Actually, having all of your mail accounts in one app is what I don't like about iOS. When I was on it, I use to use the mail app for work and the Gmail app for my other email. The thing I like about WP is it makes separate icons for each mail account.

IMO the mail app in iOS is weak. For anything IMAP/POP it lags when pulling. My exchange emails are instant. I ended up tying my IMAP/POP emails to my gmail and I get it faster through the gmail app.

 

[Eug]

IMO the mail app in iOS is weak. For anything IMAP/POP it lags when pulling. My exchange emails are instant. I ended up tying my IMAP/POP emails to my gmail and I get it faster through the gmail app.

It might have to do with the server. I find even the web interface lags for updates for my Yahoo account.

 

[uallas5]

My guess is that it will get about the same battery life as the current iPhone, or perhaps an hour more at most. One of the things I dislike about Apple is that they will always choose to make their devices thinner rather than using extra space to include a larger battery.

It's not as though the battery life is bad, it's just that I'd rather have an extra 2 hours of battery life than a device that's slightly thinner than the last model. I think they're probably really close to the point where making it thinner makes it feel worse to hold.

I agree with you about the thinness and I don't understand Apple's obsession with making everything thinner and compromising usability...I'm looking at you iMac with your awkwardly placed USB ports.

I also would rather have longer battery life than a thinner and thinner phone. It's not like I'm worried about being able to Ninja chuck it into someone's forehead.

 

[Eug]

I agree with you about the thinness and I don't understand Apple's obsession with making everything thinner and compromising usability...I'm looking at you iMac with your awkwardly placed USB ports.

The rear ports have nothing to do with the thinness. They've always been at the back even with the thick white Intel iMac.

It's inconvenient, but it definitely looks nicer than stuff sticking out the side.

That said, I would prefer a thicker iMac without a chin than a thin one with a chin. I think that chin compromises ergonomics in the 27" iMac.

 

[Commodus]

Let's see what the battery life is actually like first. Thinner doesn't necessarily mean short battery life, since there are a number of things that play into longevity (processor, screen efficiency, battery tech).

And thinness does matter to a degree -- it means that a device is easier to fit in your pocket, or at least more discreet. When I've used larger phones, even something fairly slender like the Galaxy Note 3, it's always patently obvious that there's a big phone in my pocket... and I can feel it.

 

[uallas5]

They've always been at the back even with the thick white Intel iMac.

Thanks for reminding me....for some reason I always remember there being in on the same side as the optical drive...maybe I was just always wishing there was one.

 

[Red Storm]

Well if the phone is going to be bigger, that means they could go thinner and still get more battery capacity. But, I would prefer they don't go any thinner and instead just give even more battery life, but that probably won't happen.

 

[uallas5]

Let's see what the battery life is actually like first. Thinner doesn't necessarily mean short battery life, since there are a number of things that play into longevity (processor, screen efficiency, battery tech).

And thinness does matter to a degree -- it means that a device is easier to fit in your pocket, or at least more discreet. When I've used larger phones, even something fairly slender like the Galaxy Note 3, it's always patently obvious that there's a big phone in my pocket... and I can feel it.

Actually what I meant was not so much the battery being thinner per se. I just personally think that phones are plenty thin already and I would rather have the space gained by part shrinkage being used for more battery.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Screen size isn't everything though, actual device size is what matters. A phone that has a (for example) 4.7" display but large bezels may be the same as a phone with a 5" display that has thin bezels.

Perhaps but the big bezels is probably only going to be an issue for the vertical element.

Based on the leaked schematics, the final version of the 4.7-inch iPhone 6 is said to be 6.9mm thick, 138mm long, and 66mm wide.

Nexus 5 is: 137.9 x 69.2 x 8.6 mm

I'm going to guess that width matters a bit more than height, so the iPhone is probably going to be easier to manipulate one handed still.

The current rumor of 6.9mm and ~1800 mAh isn't reassuring though. Knowing that Apple's been pretty good at battery life, its not going to be as troublesome as an Android phone with 1800 mAh. However, to think if they just went to 7.5mm or something reasonably thinner than most Android phones, they probably could've pushed north of 2000 easily.