iphone 5 speculation thread 413

[stormkroe]

Same screen @ 4"
Lte
A5 bumped from 800 Mhz to 1 Ghz
Larger battery possible due to bigger chasis, same battery life as 4s
These changes would be enough for apple to a full model number increase.
Not that I've heard anything...

 

[Bateluer]

I bet it'll be a iPhone 4S, with an LTE radio. Maybe bump the A5 to 1Ghz. Apple doesn't usually do radical design changes.

 

[RaistlinZ]

I think anything other than a radical design change will leave people disappointed this time around.

 

[Bateluer]

I think anything other than a radical design change will leave people disappointed this time around.

Doesn't matter. People will line up to buy it. Period.

I don't believe Apple can ignore the LTE/4G bandwagon for much longer though. Not when everyone is putting up 15MB/s download speeds on their phones and Apple's hitting 1MB/s. Thats pretty noticeable.

 

[gorcorps]

I bet it'll be a iPhone 4S, with an LTE radio. Maybe bump the A5 to 1Ghz. Apple doesn't usually do radical design changes.

Except that they've done 2 very noticeable design changes in 5 phones. They're due for at least a case change this go around. 1st gen phone to 3G looked a lot different because they went from the odd aluminum+plastic look to all shiny plastic. Then they went glass on both sides when they went 3GS > 4. They've set the stage to do a chassis design every other year, with other years being internal updates. Still hasn't been enough time to call it a "pattern" but that seems to be the thought process.

Also I'm not sure why the OP says "same screen @ 4" " The iphone screen has always been 3.5". So it kind of seems like he's just talking out of his ass. *shrugs*

 

[vi edit]

Doesn't matter. People will line up to buy it. Period.

I don't believe Apple can ignore the LTE/4G bandwagon for much longer though. Not when everyone is putting up 15MB/s download speeds on their phones and Apple's hitting 1MB/s. Thats pretty noticeable.

I think Apple is hitting very critical point this release. Android has legitimate hardware advantages and the OS is improving. If Apple doesn't step up with a larger screen I do think they are going to start losing IPhone 4 contract renewals to the other side. I will be one of them.

 

[MrX8503]

I bet it'll be a iPhone 4S, with an LTE radio. Maybe bump the A5 to 1Ghz. Apple doesn't usually do radical design changes.

They don't do design changes often. They're due up for a change now.

Doesn't matter. People will line up to buy it. Period.

The iPhone earned that reputation, it wasn't given to Apple.

 

[RaulF]

Doesn't matter. People will line up to buy it. Period.

I don't believe Apple can ignore the LTE/4G bandwagon for much longer though. Not when everyone is putting up 15MB/s download speeds on their phones and Apple's hitting 1MB/s. Thats pretty noticeable.

Well that's a given, they already implemented LTE on the ipad.

And about the current iphone getting 1MB/s that's only the verizon models, i have gotten 10MB/s on my ATT iphone 4S.

 

[abaez]

There are quite a few issues with going to a 4". If they do 4" the ppi would go down to like 285, which is lower than the 300ppi Apple touts as retina. Plus all of the issues with apps.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/9/2937265/the-4-inch-iphone-5

Explains it pretty well.

 

[zerocool84]

There are quite a few issues with going to a 4". If they do 4" the ppi would go down to like 285, which is lower than the 300ppi Apple touts as retina. Plus all of the issues with apps.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/9/2937265/the-4-inch-iphone-5

Explains it pretty well.

Retina is just a marketing term. They can use it as they please like on the new iPad which doesn't hit the 300+ppi mark. The original Motorola Droid has a "Retina" display.

 

[stormkroe]

Also I'm not sure why the OP says "same screen @ 4" " The iphone screen has always been 3.5". So it kind of seems like he's just talking out of his ass. *shrugs*

What I meant to say was an LCD tech, gorilla glass covered, 960x640 rez, 4 inch screen, otherwise known as SAME SCREEN @ 4". Did anyone else seriously not understand this?

 

[gorcorps]

What I meant to say was an LCD tech, gorilla glass covered, 960x640 rez, 4 inch screen, otherwise known as SAME SCREEN @ 4". Did anyone else seriously not understand this?

Ah...I get ya now. Carry on

 

[WelshBloke]

They'll pretty much have to go for a bigger screen this time round given the expectation and subsequent complaining last time.
LTE.

I could see a full design overhaul. Its looking a little dated.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Apple is always outdated. (hardware wise)
iPhones are less hacker friendly since you can't overclock and such which you can do with Android powered devices

 

[ponyo]

Apple is always outdated. (hardware wise)
iPhones are less hacker friendly since you can't overclock and such which you can do with Android powered devices

I know you're like 16 and all this hacking stuff is new and exciting but when you're old like us, you reach a point where you just want shlt to work. Apple hardware is not outdated. At the time of the release it's usually near the top of its class spec wise.

Jailbreak is hacking. As for overclocking a phone, why? Do you enjoy your phone having even a shorter battery life?

 

[MrX8503]

Apple is always outdated. (hardware wise)
iPhones are less hacker friendly since you can't overclock and such which you can do with Android powered devices

Not at release.

A4/A5 was faster than anything else out there upon release. What about the iPad3? There's no tablet that's even close to its hardware. Most if not all of the iPhones were top in hardware upon release.

It feels like Apple is outdated because their release cycles are longer.

 

[Oyeve]

Apple is always outdated. (hardware wise)
iPhones are less hacker friendly since you can't overclock and such which you can do with Android powered devices

Um, why would we want to? Im not an apple fanboy but I do have an ipod classic, iphone 4 which I use as an ipod touch and a MBP. My main phone is a SGS2 and I dont hack or overclock any of it. Whats the point of doing so? Yes, I did J/B the iphone 4 but I don't utilize any of it as there really isnt much to actually do.

Back to the OP, I think apple has already figured out how to get "retina" on a larger screen iphone so I can only assume it will be on their next iphone model. The screen size is really the only issue for most iphone fans. LTE, IMO, is secondary for most iphone fans.

 

[buckshot24]

Back to the OP, I think apple has already figured out how to get "retina" on a larger screen iphone so I can only assume it will be on their next iphone model. The screen size is really the only issue for most iphone fans. LTE, IMO, is secondary for most iphone fans.

They will say since it's a bigger screen that people will hold it further away from their face.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Emulators, 5.3" screen, free turn by turn navigation, flash web browsing for a full web experience are just a couple reasons I'm glad I left and won't return.

 

[MrX8503]

They will say since it's a bigger screen that people will hold it further away from their face.

Retina is a marketing term. However, its logical that if you have a bigger screen you would hold it farther from your face. Its already been proven mathematically that the iPhone4's pixels cannot be resolved with typical eyesight at 12". I'm not sure if that has been proven for the iPad3 though.

 

[dguy6789]

A4/A5 was faster than anything else out there upon release.

Only their graphics chip was. Both the 4 and 4S have less CPU power, RAM, etc.. than phones that predate them by months.

 

[gorcorps]

Apple is always outdated. (hardware wise)
iPhones are less hacker friendly since you can't overclock and such which you can do with Android powered devices

As an ex-iphone owner and current Android owner, I'll say this:

People figure out how to OC their phones on Android because it takes so much more to get Android to run smoothly. It's a mix of company specific skins, carrier added garbage, and just general inefficiencies in Android as a whole. Even with a stripped down rom it's worth overclocking because on a lot of devices it's still not "iPhone smooth". Apple uses outdated hardware because they can. Android phones use bleeding edge hardware because they have to.

And I'll also say this (in general, not to you specifically): Until you've owned both, your opinion is biased and nothing more than hearsay. You can't accurately judge a device you've never owned... period.

 

[swanysto]

As an ex-iphone owner and current Android owner, I'll say this:

People figure out how to OC their phones on Android because it takes so much more to get Android to run smoothly. It's a mix of company specific skins, carrier added garbage, and just general inefficiencies in Android as a whole. Even with a stripped down rom it's worth overclocking because on a lot of devices it's still not "iPhone smooth". Apple uses outdated hardware because they can. Android phones use bleeding edge hardware because they have to.

And I'll also say this (in general, not to you specifically): Until you've owned both, your opinion is biased and nothing more than hearsay. You can't accurately judge a device you've never owned... period.

I have a first gen galaxy, and I have never needed to overclock it. The only reason I put roms on it is cause they look better, and in the beginning the guys over at XDA knew how to get GPS working better than the people at Samsung/Sprint. I have owned both, as a matter of fact, my gf owns a white 4gs right now, and there is nothing she can do faster than I can on my two year old android phone. The only thing I am jealous of, is the cloud that puts her pictures on her laptop after she takes them.

That being said, the iPhone is a great device, but I need it to do two things before I will get one. Get bigger, and get free turn by turn like Oilfield said. My phone is my GPS, and I do not like the 3.5" display. My 4" display feels like a big screen compared to it. I don't care how sharp the iPhone screen is.

One thing I would like to see happen with the iPhone, that certainly will not is them going to plastic. My phone has gotten knocked over numerous times by my pets. There isn't even a scratch on it.

 

[dguy6789]

Inefficiencies is one way to put it. Another is that an Android phone is most likely doing more than just the foreground task at any given time while an iPhone or Windows Phone is not. That said, Android has been getting smoother with every iteration since 2.2.

There's still a lot of people who mistakenly label the trademark Android studder as the phone being slow. Despite the choppiness you sometimes get on Android the phone will still pretty much always be responsive; the highest end Android phones all load apps and render web pages faster than anything else.

Even the Nexus One was as fast or faster than the iPhone 4 when it came to things like loading or running apps. Only in 3D performance did it really fall behind.

I have an Android phone and an iPad and I plan to buy a Windows phone come winter 2013

And to not make this post totally off topic I expect the next iPhone to have LTE, 1GB of RAM, and still have a dual core processor. Maybe A15, maybe not, but that would be awesome. I'm 50/50 on expecting if they will make the screen larger or not. If they make the screen larger they could make the battery larger which could help offset the LTE drain.

 

[smartpatrol]

Guaranteed:
- LTE

Likely:
- 4" screen/completely redesigned chassis
- 32nm SOC
- 1 GB RAM

Maybe:
- quad-core CPU
- quad-core GPU
- A15 CPU cores

Long shot:
- PowerVR SGX 6 series GPU
- new screen resolution/aspect ratio