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iPhone 3GS *still* highest selling smartphone model (in the US)

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cheezy321

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http://mashable.com/2011/08/22/iphone-3gs-outsells-everyone/

This is absolutely crazy to me. The 3GS is over 2 years old. Every single phone has advanced rapidly since then. In the past 2 years we have seen a lot of great phones come onto the market. The bottom line is the iPhone 3GS still outsells all of them. According to the NPD group, the iPhone 4 is the #1 selling smartphone with the iPhone 3GS right at #2.

On a sidetone, the article breaks down where a lot of android phones are being sold these days, which is the pre-paid market. Apple just has to tap this market soon. There are too many people out there who simply cannot sign a 2 year contract. Apple will exploit this market eventually. Android seems to be doing very well here.



Thread title changed to be more accurate. Previous title was "outsells every Android phone" which implied all of them added together.
And, locked, because as was pointed out to me, this thread is based on the same original NPD Group study as this thread from yesterday. http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2186764

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That's because there are a LOT more Android models available for consumers to choose from.

Apple has two models.

The other reason is that it's free, or near free. Android competes very well in the low-end segment, and Apple making $49 (or less) iPhones available on-contract is evidence of this.
 
skype and netflix work on the 3GS. most people don't want to root.

skype support on android seems to be based on who pays skype to add support. same with netflix. tegra2 seems to be not compatible with skype. my HTC Inspire that came out in 2011 has no netflix support. my work droid pro has netflix. it's ridiculous
 
gsaldivar said:
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If it's a dupe, post the link and I'll lock this. The last threads that I could find - and I spent several minutes searching - were based on different studies. This one was from the NPD Group, before that it was Comscore. New study, new results, and I'm fine with a new thread - even if the discussion will likely mirror previous discussions on the topic.

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Your title implies the 3gs outsells every android phone on the market, CUMULATIVELY (in the US). Please fix your post, as this isn't remotely what the article says or implies.


Thread title changed. Thanks for pointing that out.

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pm said:
If it's a dupe, post the link and I'll lock this. The last threads that I could find - and I spent several minutes searching - were based on different studies. This one was from the NPD Group, before that it was Comscore. New study, new results, and I'm fine with a new thread - even if the discussion will likely mirror previous discussions on the topic.
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No worries. It seems most of the time this has been brought up in the middle of other threads, and not as the OP topic. I don't have any problem seeing the same arguments made again either. This one and "But Apple is the most profitable..." are becoming my favorites. 🙂 😀
 
SunnyD said:
Your title implies the 3gs outsells every android phone on the market, CUMULATIVELY (in the US). Please fix your post, as this isn't remotely what the article says or implies.


Thread title changed. Thanks for pointing that out.

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word. good point
 
gsaldivar said:
No worries. It seems most of the time this has been brought up in the middle of other threads, and not as the OP topic. I don't have any problem seeing the same arguments made again either. This one and "But Apple is the most profitable..." are becoming my favorites. 🙂 😀
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my favorite is 'keep an spare battery in your pocket'. Love that one!



Warning for baiting/trolling - keep it on topic, please

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jpeyton said:
That's because there are a LOT more Android models available for consumers to choose from.

Apple has two models.

The other reason is that it's free, or near free. Android competes very well in the low-end segment, and Apple making $49 (or less) iPhones available on-contract is evidence of this.
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This right here. The Apple cult only has two options to choose from. Android now has at least unique 10 flavors on every carrier. Also, the fact that it is free certainly helps. Not very often you can get something with that logo on it for cheap.



Warning for this post and others where iPhone owners are refered to as cult members. Please choose a more neutral term in the future.

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Dulanic said:
It also doesn't take into account that we have 4 carriers who ask for "modifications" of a phone and resell them as 4 different models. The SGS is a perfect example. In the UK the SGSII is outselling the iphone BTW where it is more apples to apples no pun intended.

http://www.mobot.net/samsung-galaxy-ii-popular-iphone-4-24309
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wtf kind of study is this? Did you even read the article? It measure 'popularity' based on web searches? That has no hard evidence at all.

The last I read (from samsungs quarterly earnings call) was that they are close to beating out the iPhone 4 on worldwide sales, but they were still millions of sales away from doing that.

Come with hard data, not some weird study that even the author of the post doesnt understand.
 
As a current 3GS owner (for now more than two years) my question is:

Will the 3GS hold back Apple?

Already my 3GS has been showing its age with recent updates and I don't expect it to get better. The GPU is ok going forward, but the screen sucks, the CPU is slow by modern standards, and (the biggest issue) it only has 256mb RAM. I am ALWAYS running out of RAM with Safari (making me FC it).

People buying iPhones, even the 3GS, are expecting Apple level of service quality and support. That means Apple must support the 3GS for at least 2 years after they stop selling them (which hasn't stopped yet). iOS must now stretch from dual-, and maybe eventually quad-, core monsters to the 3GS. Considering how popular the 3GS still is, this might make a huge future problem for Apple.

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Of course knowing Apple their thought process is whoever is buying 3GSes after the iPhone 4 has been out for a year are not the kind of affluent customer-base they usually chase and a shortened support cycle will show these peons that if you are gonna play in iLand there is no doing it half-assed.
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Not really sure what point the article is trying to make. Some manufactures make several different model numbers of what would otherwise be the same phone to see as a product for differrent carriers. Plus those manufactures are competing with each other and putting out handsets at a much faster refresh rate.
 
My opinion. The 3GS will be killed off when the iPhone 5 comes out. Duh. Not an original thought.
The 8GB model might help that along.
 
poofyhairguy said:
People buying iPhones, even the 3GS, are expecting Apple level of service quality and support. That means Apple must support the 3GS for at least 2 years after they stop selling them (which hasn't stopped yet). iOS must now stretch from dual-, and maybe eventually quad-, core monsters to the 3GS. Considering how popular the 3GS still is, this might make a huge future problem for Apple.
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Don't forget that Apple has cut iOS features based on the model of the phone in the past. If I remember correctly, the iPhone 3G doesn't have wallpaper support (or something like that).
 
cheezy321 said:
wtf kind of study is this? Did you even read the article? It measure 'popularity' based on web searches? That has no hard evidence at all.

The last I read (from samsungs quarterly earnings call) was that they are close to beating out the iPhone 4 on worldwide sales, but they were still millions of sales away from doing that.

Come with hard data, not some weird study that even the author of the post doesnt understand.
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And WTF kind of study is comparing a phone /w the same model # across all carriers vs diff model #s across all carriers? Come on now... you're not that stupid too are you?
 
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And WTF kind of study is comparing a phone /w the same model # across all carriers vs diff model #s across all carriers? Come on now... you're not that stupid too are you?
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its a study done by a top 25 marketing research group in the world that uses actual sales data. I agree that its not the best study, but it looks like the best study in the world compared to what you posted. Why did you even post that link? There is literally no credibility at all. Just spouts off a bunch of nonsense. You posted a link to an obscure blog that cited an obscure "study" done by an obscure website. In which even the author of the post has no idea what to make of it. In the words of Chris Berman, COME ON MAN!

The real question is this: When is android going to produce a 'killer device'? According to the stats we see here, they have yet to do so. There is no one device that you can point to as the android phone to get. The SGS 2 might be that phone, but the verdict is still out on that one.

At the end of the day, a phone that is about 26 months old (only available on ONE CARRIER, mind you) is outselling even the latest and greatest android device. There is something wrong there. Something really, really wrong.
 
cheezy321 said:
its a study done by a top 25 marketing research group in the world that uses actual sales data. I agree that its not the best study, but it looks like the best study in the world compared to what you posted. Why did you even post that link? There is literally no credibility at all. Just spouts off a bunch of nonsense. You posted a link to an obscure blog that cited an obscure "study" done by an obscure website. In which even the author of the post has no idea what to make of it. In the words of Chris Berman, COME ON MAN!

The real question is this: When is android going to produce a 'killer device'? According to the stats we see here, they have yet to do so. There is no one device that you can point to as the android phone to get. The SGS 2 might be that phone, but the verdict is still out on that one.

At the end of the day, a phone that is about 26 months old (only available on ONE CARRIER, mind you) is outselling even the latest and greatest android device. There is something wrong there. Something really, really wrong.
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Yes, your hypocrisy. You whine about trolling and flaming constantly and you're the worst one here by a wide margin.
 
shortylickens said:
Yes, your hypocrisy. You whine about trolling and flaming constantly and you're the worst one here by a wide margin.
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Look in the mirror buddy. This exact post is pretty typical of you. You show up in every apple thread and you flame, providing zero insight. Can't forget your joke of a thread about buying the iPhone 4. Jesus man, that was a clusterfuck of epic proportions. Been doing it for months.

Everybody knows this.
 
cheezy321 said:
Look in the mirror buddy. This exact post is pretty typical of you. You show up in every apple thread and you flame, providing zero insight. Can't forget your joke of a thread about buying the iPhone 4. Jesus man, that was a clusterfuck of epic proportions. Been doing it for months.

Everybody knows this.
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Wow, now you resort to straight up lies.

I would feel sorry for you if you werent so much like most other people.
 
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