iPhone 3GS Announced!

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: torpid
Pulled the trigger already. The 3g speeds now seem worth it to me for the extra $15/mo. That's what was holding me back before.

I'm crossing my fingers that AT&T gets MMS and tethering enabled sooner rather than later. I don't understand their "logic" in delaying those.

"OMG our shitty network CANNOT support all this shit, but we can't let anyone know that or they won't pay $100000 a month for a data plan"

-ATT

They need to announce at least a $10 price drop or they're fucking idiots.

 

[torpid]

$499 is still cheaper than full retail price.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: torpid
Pulled the trigger already. The 3g speeds now seem worth it to me for the extra $15/mo. That's what was holding me back before.

I'm crossing my fingers that AT&T gets MMS and tethering enabled sooner rather than later. I don't understand their "logic" in delaying those.

MMS will come with 3.0. Good luck with the tethering thing though.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: torpid
Pulled the trigger already. The 3g speeds now seem worth it to me for the extra $15/mo. That's what was holding me back before.

I'm crossing my fingers that AT&T gets MMS and tethering enabled sooner rather than later. I don't understand their "logic" in delaying those.

MMS will come with 3.0. Good luck with the tethering thing though.

tethering was already announced and confirmed by ATT

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: torpid
Pulled the trigger already. The 3g speeds now seem worth it to me for the extra $15/mo. That's what was holding me back before.

I'm crossing my fingers that AT&T gets MMS and tethering enabled sooner rather than later. I don't understand their "logic" in delaying those.

MMS will come with 3.0. Good luck with the tethering thing though.

tethering was already announced and confirmed by ATT

Yeah, with another plan. I'm pretty sure that's not what he's looking for though.

 

[torpid]

AT&T announced MMS and tethering for the iphone at some point soon. They are being rather vague about it all. I don't have much need for tethering at the moment anyway, but it will annoy me if "soon" becomes "never"

 

[ManBearPig]

HOW MUCH IS IT? and will there be a speed increase (response speed (processor), not network speed)?

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

As a valued AT&T customer, AT&T can offer you an early iPhone upgrade with a new 2-yr commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. You may qualify for a standard iPhone upgrade on 03/17/2010.

* $299.00* ? 8GB iPhone 3G (black)
* $399.00* ? 16GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)
* $499.00* ? 32GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)

I got the same thing when I checked for my wife.

Way to screw your existing customers, ATT and Apple.

MotionMan

How is anyone getting screwed? Have time left on your contract, you still owe AT&T about $200 in iPhone subsidies.

When a new customer gets a better deal than an existing customer, that is called screwing the existing customers.

In this case, existing customers have to sign a new two-year contract, so, in effect, they become new customers again. If existing customers could just upgrade without a new contract, then I could understand the difference in the cost of the phone.

MotionMan

You still don't get it. You still owe AT&T money for the iPhone.

You paid $200/$300 for it, AT&T paid $600/700 to Apple for it. They subsidized your phone to the tune of $400, which comes out $200/year. If you're going to break your contract a year early, you still owe AT&T the last $200 to pay off your phone. Once your phone is paid off (via the higher price you'd pay for a phone), they'll gladly sign you up for a new contract, subsidies and all.

New customers don't owe AT&T any money, hence they get it at the fully-subsidized price right away.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

As a valued AT&T customer, AT&T can offer you an early iPhone upgrade with a new 2-yr commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. You may qualify for a standard iPhone upgrade on 03/17/2010.

* $299.00* ? 8GB iPhone 3G (black)
* $399.00* ? 16GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)
* $499.00* ? 32GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)

I got the same thing when I checked for my wife.

Way to screw your existing customers, ATT and Apple.

MotionMan

How is anyone getting screwed? Have time left on your contract, you still owe AT&T about $200 in iPhone subsidies.

When a new customer gets a better deal than an existing customer, that is called screwing the existing customers.

In this case, existing customers have to sign a new two-year contract, so, in effect, they become new customers again. If existing customers could just upgrade without a new contract, then I could understand the difference in the cost of the phone.

MotionMan

You still don't get it. You still owe AT&T money for the iPhone.

You paid $200/$300 for it, AT&T paid $600/700 to Apple for it. They subsidized your phone to the tune of $400, which comes out $200/year. If you're going to break your contract a year early, you still owe AT&T the last $200 to pay off your phone. Once your phone is paid off (via the higher price you'd pay for a phone), they'll gladly sign you up for a new contract, subsidies and all.

New customers don't owe AT&T any money, hence they get it at the fully-subsidized price right away.

You still don't get it. The existing customers are getting screwed. Why does that seem like such a complicated concept for you?

MotionMan

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

As a valued AT&T customer, AT&T can offer you an early iPhone upgrade with a new 2-yr commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. You may qualify for a standard iPhone upgrade on 03/17/2010.

* $299.00* ? 8GB iPhone 3G (black)
* $399.00* ? 16GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)
* $499.00* ? 32GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)

I got the same thing when I checked for my wife.

Way to screw your existing customers, ATT and Apple.

MotionMan

How is anyone getting screwed? Have time left on your contract, you still owe AT&T about $200 in iPhone subsidies.

When a new customer gets a better deal than an existing customer, that is called screwing the existing customers.

In this case, existing customers have to sign a new two-year contract, so, in effect, they become new customers again. If existing customers could just upgrade without a new contract, then I could understand the difference in the cost of the phone.

MotionMan

You still don't get it. You still owe AT&T money for the iPhone.

You paid $200/$300 for it, AT&T paid $600/700 to Apple for it. They subsidized your phone to the tune of $400, which comes out $200/year. If you're going to break your contract a year early, you still owe AT&T the last $200 to pay off your phone. Once your phone is paid off (via the higher price you'd pay for a phone), they'll gladly sign you up for a new contract, subsidies and all.

New customers don't owe AT&T any money, hence they get it at the fully-subsidized price right away.

You still don't get it. The existing customers are getting screwed. Why does that seem like such a complicated concept for you?

MotionMan

And you'd just have AT&T eat a $200 loss because they're nice guys? You signed a 2 year contract, you need to complete it either via the 2 years or paying the ETF in whatever manner.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

As a valued AT&T customer, AT&T can offer you an early iPhone upgrade with a new 2-yr commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. You may qualify for a standard iPhone upgrade on 03/17/2010.

* $299.00* ? 8GB iPhone 3G (black)
* $399.00* ? 16GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)
* $499.00* ? 32GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)

I got the same thing when I checked for my wife.

Way to screw your existing customers, ATT and Apple.

MotionMan

How is anyone getting screwed? Have time left on your contract, you still owe AT&T about $200 in iPhone subsidies.

When a new customer gets a better deal than an existing customer, that is called screwing the existing customers.

In this case, existing customers have to sign a new two-year contract, so, in effect, they become new customers again. If existing customers could just upgrade without a new contract, then I could understand the difference in the cost of the phone.

MotionMan

You still don't get it. You still owe AT&T money for the iPhone.

You paid $200/$300 for it, AT&T paid $600/700 to Apple for it. They subsidized your phone to the tune of $400, which comes out $200/year. If you're going to break your contract a year early, you still owe AT&T the last $200 to pay off your phone. Once your phone is paid off (via the higher price you'd pay for a phone), they'll gladly sign you up for a new contract, subsidies and all.

New customers don't owe AT&T any money, hence they get it at the fully-subsidized price right away.

You still don't get it. The existing customers are getting screwed. Why does that seem like such a complicated concept for you?

MotionMan

And you'd just have AT&T eat a $200 loss because they're nice guys? You signed a 2 year contract, you need to complete it either via the 2 years or paying the ETF in whatever manner.

Building customer loyalty FTL. Not all good business decisions involve immediately making money (or immediately avoiding losing money).

MotionMan

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

As a valued AT&T customer, AT&T can offer you an early iPhone upgrade with a new 2-yr commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. You may qualify for a standard iPhone upgrade on 03/17/2010.

* $299.00* ? 8GB iPhone 3G (black)
* $399.00* ? 16GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)
* $499.00* ? 32GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)

I got the same thing when I checked for my wife.

Way to screw your existing customers, ATT and Apple.

MotionMan

How is anyone getting screwed? Have time left on your contract, you still owe AT&T about $200 in iPhone subsidies.

When a new customer gets a better deal than an existing customer, that is called screwing the existing customers.

In this case, existing customers have to sign a new two-year contract, so, in effect, they become new customers again. If existing customers could just upgrade without a new contract, then I could understand the difference in the cost of the phone.

MotionMan

You still don't get it. You still owe AT&T money for the iPhone.

You paid $200/$300 for it, AT&T paid $600/700 to Apple for it. They subsidized your phone to the tune of $400, which comes out $200/year. If you're going to break your contract a year early, you still owe AT&T the last $200 to pay off your phone. Once your phone is paid off (via the higher price you'd pay for a phone), they'll gladly sign you up for a new contract, subsidies and all.

New customers don't owe AT&T any money, hence they get it at the fully-subsidized price right away.

You still don't get it. The existing customers are getting screwed. Why does that seem like such a complicated concept for you?

MotionMan

And you'd just have AT&T eat a $200 loss because they're nice guys? You signed a 2 year contract, you need to complete it either via the 2 years or paying the ETF in whatever manner.

Building customer loyalty FTL. Not all good business decisions involve immediately making money (or immediately avoiding losing money).

MotionMan

Gotcha, so you're only satisfied if AT&T hands you large gobs of money for no reason.

You're the kind of customer that would never be satisfied. You want stuff for less than it costs to make. No one would ever be able to satisfy you and stay in business.

 

[FerraraZ]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

As a valued AT&T customer, AT&T can offer you an early iPhone upgrade with a new 2-yr commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. You may qualify for a standard iPhone upgrade on 03/17/2010.

* $299.00* ? 8GB iPhone 3G (black)
* $399.00* ? 16GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)
* $499.00* ? 32GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)

I got the same thing when I checked for my wife.

Way to screw your existing customers, ATT and Apple.

MotionMan

How is anyone getting screwed? Have time left on your contract, you still owe AT&T about $200 in iPhone subsidies.

When a new customer gets a better deal than an existing customer, that is called screwing the existing customers.

In this case, existing customers have to sign a new two-year contract, so, in effect, they become new customers again. If existing customers could just upgrade without a new contract, then I could understand the difference in the cost of the phone.

MotionMan

You still don't get it. You still owe AT&T money for the iPhone.

You paid $200/$300 for it, AT&T paid $600/700 to Apple for it. They subsidized your phone to the tune of $400, which comes out $200/year. If you're going to break your contract a year early, you still owe AT&T the last $200 to pay off your phone. Once your phone is paid off (via the higher price you'd pay for a phone), they'll gladly sign you up for a new contract, subsidies and all.

New customers don't owe AT&T any money, hence they get it at the fully-subsidized price right away.

You still don't get it. The existing customers are getting screwed. Why does that seem like such a complicated concept for you?

MotionMan

And you'd just have AT&T eat a $200 loss because they're nice guys? You signed a 2 year contract, you need to complete it either via the 2 years or paying the ETF in whatever manner.

Iphone costs 150 something to make. ATT did not pay 600/700 per phone. Your figures are false. In a sense the existing customer is screwed because he paid for a product when they wont give him a break on the upgrade not even a year later.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MotionMan

As a valued AT&T customer, AT&T can offer you an early iPhone upgrade with a new 2-yr commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. You may qualify for a standard iPhone upgrade on 03/17/2010.

* $299.00* ? 8GB iPhone 3G (black)
* $399.00* ? 16GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)
* $499.00* ? 32GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)

I got the same thing when I checked for my wife.

Way to screw your existing customers, ATT and Apple.

MotionMan

How is anyone getting screwed? Have time left on your contract, you still owe AT&T about $200 in iPhone subsidies.

When a new customer gets a better deal than an existing customer, that is called screwing the existing customers.

In this case, existing customers have to sign a new two-year contract, so, in effect, they become new customers again. If existing customers could just upgrade without a new contract, then I could understand the difference in the cost of the phone.

MotionMan

You still don't get it. You still owe AT&T money for the iPhone.

You paid $200/$300 for it, AT&T paid $600/700 to Apple for it. They subsidized your phone to the tune of $400, which comes out $200/year. If you're going to break your contract a year early, you still owe AT&T the last $200 to pay off your phone. Once your phone is paid off (via the higher price you'd pay for a phone), they'll gladly sign you up for a new contract, subsidies and all.

New customers don't owe AT&T any money, hence they get it at the fully-subsidized price right away.

You still don't get it. The existing customers are getting screwed. Why does that seem like such a complicated concept for you?

MotionMan

And you'd just have AT&T eat a $200 loss because they're nice guys? You signed a 2 year contract, you need to complete it either via the 2 years or paying the ETF in whatever manner.

Building customer loyalty FTL. Not all good business decisions involve immediately making money (or immediately avoiding losing money).

MotionMan

Gotcha, so you're only satisfied if AT&T hands you large gobs of money for no reason.

You're the kind of customer that would never be satisfied. You want stuff for less than it costs to make. No one would ever be able to satisfy you and stay in business.

You obviously have not the foggiest idea what you are talking about, both as to your wild guess as to what kind of customer I am and your erroneous statements based on your incorrect assumptions regarding the cost to make things.

A very impressive feat of ignorance. Congrats!

MotionMan

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Kazaam
HOW MUCH IS IT? and will there be a speed increase (response speed (processor), not network speed)?

Yes

 

[ManBearPig]

thanks maud!

Do i seriously have to pay $18 extra when we sign up for a new contract to get an iphone? It doesn't work like the regular ones when i just get a new phone with a new two year contract?

 

[MotionMan]

Yeah, I am the only one who is upset about the upgrade costs:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=81&threadid=2309340

MotionMan

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: MotionMan
Yeah, I am the only one who is upset about the upgrade costs:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=81&threadid=2309340

MotionMan

So that's 2 who are fooling themselves.:laugh:

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Kazaam
thanks maud!

Do i seriously have to pay $18 extra when we sign up for a new contract to get an iphone? It doesn't work like the regular ones when i just get a new phone with a new two year contract?

I shot the last person who called me a girl.
If you want to be first on the block, then yes, it's going to cost you another $18. You could play the waiting game. After seeing the comparison to the 3G, I think I'm going to now.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: MotionMan
Yeah, I am the only one who is upset about the upgrade costs:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=81&threadid=2309340

MotionMan

So that's 2 who are fooling themselves.:laugh:

It's not that they're "fooling" themselves. They're in denial.

 

[ManBearPig]

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: Kazaam
thanks maud!

Do i seriously have to pay $18 extra when we sign up for a new contract to get an iphone? It doesn't work like the regular ones when i just get a new phone with a new two year contract?

I shot the last person who called me a girl.
If you want to be first on the block, then yes, it's going to cost you another $18. You could play the waiting game. After seeing the comparison to the 3G, I think I'm going to now.

thats so dumb...so if i end the 2 years, DONT upgrade, then renew our account i wont have to pay an extra 18 bucks?

 

[Kmax82]

I think you still will have to pay the $18. I did with a brand new contract on AT&T for the iPhone. It's an activation fee that AT&T associates with any new iPhone purchase/activation.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Kazaam

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: Kazaam
thanks maud!

Do i seriously have to pay $18 extra when we sign up for a new contract to get an iphone? It doesn't work like the regular ones when i just get a new phone with a new two year contract?

I shot the last person who called me a girl.
If you want to be first on the block, then yes, it's going to cost you another $18. You could play the waiting game. After seeing the comparison to the 3G, I think I'm going to now.

thats so dumb...so if i end the 2 years, DONT upgrade, then renew our account i wont have to pay an extra 18 bucks?

Then I think it's $18 for a new contract and $36 for a new account, IIRC.

 

[TheWart]

You obviously have not the foggiest idea what you are talking about, both as to your wild guess as to what kind of customer I am and your erroneous statements based on your incorrect assumptions regarding the cost to make things.

A very impressive feat of ignorance. Congrats!

MotionMan

Except *every* cell phone company has had this SAME policy for the last umpteemth years. The last iPhone to iPhone 3G was an anomaly because there was *no upgrade pricing for the original iPhone.*

LOL, and it is not like people didnt know a new iPhone was coming out this spring/summer. Newsflash: new iphone is probable next June/July, so don't buy one now if you are going to complain and moan about not getting upgrade pricing 12 months into your contract.

 

[Sunrise089]

Originally posted by: TheWart

You obviously have not the foggiest idea what you are talking about, both as to your wild guess as to what kind of customer I am and your erroneous statements based on your incorrect assumptions regarding the cost to make things.

A very impressive feat of ignorance. Congrats!

MotionMan

Except *every* cell phone company has had this SAME policy for the last umpteemth years. The last iPhone to iPhone 3G was an anomaly because there was *no upgrade pricing for the original iPhone.*

LOL, and it is not like people didnt know a new iPhone was coming out this spring/summer. Newsflash: new iphone is probable next June/July, so don't buy one now if you are going to complain and moan about not getting upgrade pricing 12 months into your contract.

This is very fair, but a compromise solution would be to let we existing customers stack another 2 years onto our contract, right?